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Good question. I assumed Sam was going to be sent away - (America, maybe, where Jakes is?) because Fred was being transferred to a legit job & new home. If he quits that abruptly or takes early retirement, how will he ever explain that to Win? Confusing to me, too.

I wondered the same thing. Maybe she didn't have any friend willing to take the role? I know it's a little thing but at the rehearsal & the wedding,there wasn't an attendant for the bride that I saw & that bugged me.

Thank you for this info. I was wondering how I could find out the piece's title. Me, too, about your comment of enjoying Morse's choir participation. But as a former long-time (small church) choir director, I am always more focused on whether the singers are KEEPING THEIR EYES ON THE DIRECTOR as they should. ha.

I have found it so helpful through the years to watch the episode a 2nd time on my tablet after being fixed on my tv screen first. This was no different. The two nitpicks that I didn't care for were 1) the gun/church yard scene, which didn't make sense to me first or second time through. Perhaps it was meant to be symbolic in some way as some have said but it didn't really work - not for me, at least and 2) I wish the murderer's reason for his crimes had been less stereotypical. But otherwise, ah, a few favorites from so many: Dr. D's "6 down and 2 across" comment, Morse's words to Thursday there at the end, "I know thee not, old man" from Henry V, and my man Bright sitting by the grave of his little daughter quoting that sumptuous speech from The Tempest as the camera caresses the station's empty desks and rooms. "Our revels now are ended. These our actors...were all spirits and are melted into air." Lovely. Btw, was Jakes' return only so he could fill in as best man? What else did he bring to the plot? Everything about his presence in the episode(s) escapes me. A poignant send off with typical fine cinematography and simply splendid acting. Show ~ you will certainly be missed.

I really enjoyed old curmudgeon Morse (mourned his death as if he weren't fictional) but maybe one had to watch the series in the time contemporary to its production to truly appreciate both protagonist and show. I devoured the books as they came out but on second readings years later found them harder to read tho I have kept The Remorseful Day for yet another read. I fear I am dumbing down with age. Another topic: Would dearly love to figure out the nemesis at the heart of this season's overarching mystery before Sunday night. Regarding that, there are bodies of a former secretary of Blenheim Vale and the missing 4th bad guy from a previous scandal buried on the BV grounds, right? And the secretary's son's murdered body was found on college grounds during a musical reception. Are these the only victims of some mysterious and threatening cabal/person we have so far, since the clue-sharing cover artist ended up being a hit and run? What/who am I missing? The puzzle is always key for me and I like playing with clues but maybe that's only supposed to work for the weekly micro-mystery and not for the macro mystery which appears to threaten all our heroes.

I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but he looked like the West Side Story version of Peter Jakes, the victimized constable from the Lost Boys episode in season 2 that occurred at Blenheim Vale. I have absolutely no recollection of what happened to his character. I recall that Thursday was shot and Morse subsequently incarcerated because of BV. I think I have that right. Like 7-Zark-7 I must scramble to fill in multiple memory gaps. I too fear for Thursday - and Bright, as well. But what a guy my man Bright is! Do the right thing full speed ahead! I saw a funeral procession in the snippets used to tease the next episode. Could it please be someone I don't know? .

Happy to see familiar posters' names again and be with people who understand the mixed feelings of this final season. I must, as usual, rewatch ep 1 because somehow (did I doze off?) the shoe clue escaped me. Such lovely expressions last night. Win's joy with Sam. Joan and her ring. (Sometimes I almost like her) Fred's sad look at Endeavour in the pub. And oh, that dazed expression Endeavour wore after experiencing the wedding-news-blues! My guess is that Fred and Win will move with the promotion. (But I am persistently wrong so ignore me) And perhaps Ronnie will continue the Morse arc with his own p.i. show developed for PBS. I usually subtract points when the characters' relationships take precedence over the puzzle though not this season. But please show, the one thing I ask is that you give my man Bright a sendoff worthy of a Tiger King.

It was fun to watch and I don't regret a second of it.That said, whyowhyowhy would an intelligent woman spill everything to a murderer when they're alone, and then TURN HER BACK to him? I don't care how long she's known him! They're isolated and he kills people! That common trope where the heroine loses any sense of cautious self preservation and rational thought makes me pull out my hair! I also have to say that after the fire, while lying in her hospital bed, Susan's makeup was still perfect, especially her lipstick ... unsmudged! That must be really high end stuff. Well, it was fun and made for a happy run of Sunday nights. Here's hoping they turn Horowitz loose with the sequel.

A satisfying, satisfactory conclusion to season two. I enjoyed Hattie's aunt letting down her guard (& quickly raising it again), Moses snapping at Eliza, Eliza discovering that she may have impulsively put herself at risk for ego's sake, that some places (like the Rookeries (which really were dreadful and deadly) should not be approached lightly. The engagement party scene was interesting, too. For me, there were more characters and fewer caricatures this season. A good thing. Fitzroy delights. And I like Nash. A lot. So here's to season three. May it not disappoint.

I don't want to be the one to inject anything dark into the discussion but I'm worried about a Fitzroy demise. His father might find a dead but heroic son easier to bear than a live son who doesn't meet his expectations (well, he's an awful person and I'm just saying the obvious) With Fitzroy out of the picture, the impetus behind the Glasgow transfer would lessen if not disappear entirely. I find Fitzroy genuinely likeable and I go all soft on the Duke when he interferes on Fitzroy's behalf. So note to writers: Do not even THINK about killing off that character. Period.

As dubbel zout said above, the segues are just grand when a scene shifts from Pund tImes to contemporary times. Too clever by half. One that comes to mind from last night is after Pund has departed from his interview with the dead housekeeper's son and dil and those 2 are standing by a window discussing the boy who drowned. There is a sound noticeable enough to make the dil raises her head to listen and then without a hitch we have o-so-smoothly shifted to Susan where the sound (was it a bell or a clink?) seems to have originated. Boyoboy that's fun. I'm going to watch it again just to revisit all those delightful shifts in time. Btw, I too read the book (and its sequel) but have no recollection of the guilty party. For once, aging is in my favor.

For what this is worth: I found watching the episode again, able to stop the streaming when I needed to study what was on the screen or replay a section so I could catch all the spoken words, was VERY helpful. There were still inconsistencies (the man Creech telling Fred everything he wanted to know just like that ["please"], the weather being terrible for getting around unless it wasn't, and the good condition of the hotel after 8 vacant years come to mind) but a second viewing improved my opinion of Terminus. It may never be a favorite, but I now look forward with a sort of sad anticipation to the show's final season.

Yes, sempervivum, ita, the doctor was a twin to Joan and I, too, thought the whole show would end up being an alcoholic delusion. I will, however, draw a line between the awful plot (I'm going to have to watch the whole episode again because I have no idea what that business with Fred and the prison or mental hospital visit was all about. Did I doze off?) and the actors themselves. I was surprised by Win's pathological and unreasonable venom, but the actor made me believe it, as baffling as it was. My man Bright was basically stuck with platitudes this episode, but I thought Joan's indecision and eventual scene with Strange were well done. And Fred Thursday, fearing his son was dead or had gone awol (such shame would be death-like for Fred, I think) had a hundred emotions cross his face, one right after another. Just grand. I also thought Strange was a tender comforter for Joan. I do wonder, however, how the actors reacted to their first read through of the episode. Btw, I seem to recall a whole episode that took place on the military base where Sam was serving, something to do with models in mini-skirts. Sam was prominent for a season or two, then seemed to vanish. I must add, with complete lack of modesty, that I picked up immediately on the clue in the newspaper pic Endeavour found in first victim's flat that showed the "starry-eyed" prize winner. But clue to what exactly I'm still not sure. The whole slashed eyes thing was another plot device that escaped me. I thought I was paying attention. Apparently not. Note to Russell Lewis: Please don't do that again.

This is such a good forum - I tried others but come back here because you people know what you're talking about! Thank you. That said: I'll join what looks like a minority when I admit that I liked Morse in the Dexter books and even more in the original PBS series. I enjoyed the character a great deal exactly as he was: curmudgeon, raconteur, choir member, opera fan, patronizing, vaguely kind, somewhat lazy, impatient, streaks of brilliance, self-absorbed, crossword un-puzzler, fan of beautiful women. All of him. One of my favorite characters ever. So imperfect. My grief after watching The Remorseful Day was as sharp and real as it would be for the loss of a good friend. I enjoyed Inspector Lewis well enough but started Endeavour only because of its connection to Morse. I enjoy seeing shadows of Morse around the edges of Endeavour, and looking at the 60s/70s from the different time perspectives of filming the two series is interesting, too. I'm of an age that I can do the same. Living through and looking back. How things can change between those two views. O, wasn't my man Bright just the BEST in episode 2?! Did we know he painted? I don't recall it. I know some of you may find him patronizing to women, but I just find him so kind and so courtly, and I love that. His interactions with the model gave me a sudden pang of longing for Trewlove. I always enjoyed their interactions. For me, this was a better puzzle than episode 1, even if I have to agree that changing the clocks' hands pushed it over the credibility edge for me. Not that I care. My willing suspension of disbelief switch automatically flips to on as soon as the Endeavour intro music starts to play. Thanks to all for your observations.

Found the puzzles surprisingly and disappointingly Un-puzzling (Dollhouse discovery seemed really a stretch to me, the clock in the magazine photo a minor clue at best, and the final denouement with the killer unintelligible. All imho, however.) But It was like catching up with a bunch of good friends, whom I hadn't seen in a couple of years and really missed and I enjoyed every minute of the episode. (Except maybe "Miss Thursday"''s criticism of Morse's drinking, which grated a bit and seemed particularly unfeeling. Or was it just me?) I agree with some previous comments about Morse's sloppy police work. Not asking for his replacement's i.d. was glaring. But since even a whiney, sloppy Endeavour puts me in a good mood, I'll credit the writer(s) with doing that purposefully to show how low our bright, young detective has fallen. I will not, however, hear anything bad about my man, Bright. Who cares if he's keeping up with the 70's? He shot a tiger in the garden, and showed up at the O.K. Corral shootout, for crying out loud. He'll always be a shining star in my sky.

Here's to Season 8, whenever it makes it across the pond ~https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/specialfeatures/endeavour-season-8-news/?subscriber=true&list_id=general

O, me, too! But then I decided Morse didn't see it because Strange was clasping the hilt with both hands & managed to gasp (in what I thought was a remarkably unstabbed-sounding voice,) "Go after him" (or something like that.) Of course, I always give Endeavour the benefit of the doubt. I can't help it.

I googled zenana before the show played and the Google definition said it was the part of a house in certain countries where women and girls are kept secluded. So I attached the word to the women-only Oxford college (forgot name. sorry) who are voluntarily secluded from men and want to keep it that way. I didn't (still don't) understand why the episode's title would highlight only that smallish portion of the story unless it was because it was their uncovering Towpath killer #2 that made everyone reexamine their conclusions.

Maybe Fred flashed his police credentials to the front desk...but that was my 1st thought, too.

Infiltrating faith healers was only 1 of many Qs I had but you know what? I DON'T CARE. Go ahead, show. Strain the bonds of believability all you want. I can take it. Fred can be at exactly the right place at the right time to save Morse's life. Strange can get stabbed in the gut and the EMT guy - apparently another person with ESP capabilities (he should go take that research read-the-card test) says cheerily that no worries, he'll pull through. Bad guy brother has an airtight alibi that even Ms. Frazill recognizes but he's still (one of) the towpath murderers. I don't care that Morse left the phone number of his love nest at the police station so he could be reached in the middle of a tryst or that Violetta must have been skulking around loosening ageing farm equipment & drowning men in pig swill or that she murdered her Lebanese nightclub singer friend & then willy-nilly took over her digs & KEPT HER PICTURE OUT on the table so Morse could make a convenient matchup with a newspaper article later. And fake Robin (yes. A bird. I get it.) having enough time to untangle Christmas lights, let alone turn them into a murder weapon? Ha. But I'm not going to dwell on these things because that scene at the table with Endeavour, Vi, & Ludo was so worth it. For this longtime "Morse" fan, it was an incredible but viable explanation for how that beautiful young man Endeavour turned into John Thaw's (& Colin Dexter's) crotchety, sentimental, brilliant Morse. Endeavour's airy comment to Vi, "He knows now," so unrepentant & certain of his happy ending & just-a-touch-relieved that it's all out in the open made me dislike Morse & love him simultaneously. I am determined to fit in a rewatch this week because although fixated on the telly screen practically w/o blinking for the entire show, I know I missed baskets of clues. Thanks to Freddi for the info about the opera playing out on stage. Interesting stuff, all.

Thanks to you, Rickster, for applying the phrase "non-organic" to some of the interwoven plots of episode 2. Perfect word. What you said was why I didn't enjoy it as much as usual (and "usual" is a LOT) Some of the side storylines seemed grafted onto the story. Maybe the concluding episode will prove me wrong, though, because that's certainly happened before. I'm slightly suspicious of the male researcher without long hair as well as the other guy, 12catcrazy, just because he was so snide and nasty. They're both feasible perps. If the murderer is killing young women because he dislikes them on general terms the older guy would seem to fit that motivation but I can't figure out, if that's the case , why kill the flasher, who is presumably anxious to display that he is not a young woman? And btw, we know who killed the torso in the suitcase, but did we ever hear what happened to the head and other missing parts of the victim? (I'm fine with not knowing. Really. Just wondering if I missed it because it's been a busy week and I didn't get to rewatch ep 2) So tomorrow all will be made clear in this much-too-short season. Btw, was I the only one happy to see that Endeavour left the 'stache behind in the 60's?

No spoilers here. I'll be the odd person out, I suppose, but if I had a list of least favorite Endeavour episodes (which I don't because it would be very, very short and what would be the point?) this one would be on it. The grieving mother's epiphany and final speech didn't ring true (from "I hope they all die screaming" to acknowledging that they all had a role in her son's death was just too fast an emotional leap imo) Young solitary woman walking on towpath where previous murders had occurred wasn't credible to me. Max's eventual observation that they'll probably find blood in the drain seemed tacked on. Really? A body was sawn apart and the bathroom was visually pristine? I won't even mention Ludo 's sense of style which is just so painful, even for the early 70's (which yes, I know were pretty awful...I lived through them, but still...the guy's rich as Midas and should do better.) There's never enough Bright but I did appreciate Strange and the cooking show and at least there was Thursday to improve the evening, his feeling for the young fatherless Polish boy, being humble before Morse and a little uncertain, doggedly watching over the towpath and following the whistler. Fred was the Bright spot (ha!) in what was for me a lackluster episode. But a lackluster Endeavour is still better than just about anything else I could watch, so there is that. Only 3 episodes this year so next week should be a corker! Some horrible person is out there doing awful things to animals and single people (for the past 6 months...how long has Ludo been in Oxford?) Give me a credible solution and a big ending next week, show. Please.

Finally found time for a 2nd viewing and picked up on the comments about cats (gone missing then mutilated, is what I understood) Ms. Frazill (sp. sorry) made to Morse at the Women's Meeting where he went to meet Dr. Benson. I think that unpleasantness will come around again. There's very little that's random in the writing of these storylines. Sometimes my 2nd viewing of an Endeavour episode is like watching a brand new show, especially the first few scenes that flash by. Looking forward to gathering a few more pieces of the puzzle tomorrow night.

I'm beside myself with delight to have Endeavour back. And this forum. A perfect pairing for me. So great to see old friends, both cinematic and online. Anything following that last extraordinary episode of S6 couldn't help but be just a teensy bit of a letdown for me. I expected it. But those marvelously poignant, nuanced moments from last night made up for it. Bright and the faith healers, Fred and the birds, Fred and Win out on New Year's Eve trying to enjoy themselves, prunes for dessert (with custard no less!) and the look on the wife's face as she pushed away from the table to get it for her dreadful husband. No show in all my years of tv watching has ever done those quintessentially human moments better. I found Morse patronizing ( "well, you got there in the end and that's what matters") in a way I never noted in the first six seasons. Well done, writers, because those brief moments are the bridge to the original Morse I knew (and loved) years ago. ("Lew...issss") I see this season's episodes as a set of those Russian nesting dolls, a mystery set inside of a mystery set... Well, you get it. Towpath death. Young woman researcher's death. Flasher slasher. Morse with a new bff who appears out of nowhere and ends up being married to Morse's Venetian fling! Rats and blackbirds. ESP. (Did anyone else find it ironic that the young woman with ESP didn't realize the guy standing behind her chair had taken off his tie and intended to strangle her?) All those flashing, disparate parts made me so happy! Well, I'll stop rambling now - clearly, I've been stuck alone in my house way too long! (Is it Sunday night yet?)

I agree with just about everything written in this forum about the most recent episode. Not a favorite. Not for me, at least. I completely opted out of Grantchester last year because I found the characters and story lines to be boring, off-target, and often silly. I had hopes this year for a new vicar and...here's the kicker...new mysteries. Because ... follow me on this, writers...it's called Masterpiece MYSTERY. Hardly a puzzle to be found anywhere in the dead-guy plot. Would the hidden saddle count as any kind of clue? Did the victim put on his pjs with a nail in his head? Really? I must have missed something amid all the focus placed on peripheral petty behavior of unlikable people. Part of it is that I'm simply not invested in these characters (not watching a show for a year or 2 can have that effect, I guess) and so don't care much about them. The contrast of writing and content is especially noticeable to me because Grantchester followed immediately on the scheduling heels of the fine Endeavour. Btw, wasn't the father played by the actor who was Inspector Lynley in all the tv adaptations of author Elizabeth George's detective novels?