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2 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Not entirely true Lucy was pregnant with Kevin's baby and she was good at that point but she miscarried which I hated at the time because I think there was a lot of story potential of Kevin/Lucy having a child being such opposites and Kevin's family having a history of mental illness to boot to possibly pass that down to a child..

I forgot that and it was cruel of them to do so.  Lucy once thought she was pregnant when she was with Scotty again after Kevin. Her disappointment on finding out that she was not pregnant was heartbreaking. I still remember her saying why is she always denied the chance to have a child. A lot of women who struggle with infertility could relate to that sentiment..

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36 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

As for Eric, though, this version seems nice but dim. He's dysfunctional enough on his own that I don't think he needs kids right now. What he does need is to stop being a sad sack over "Kricole" and do something, anything that does not involve her OR Sarah. What that is, however, I don't know. But, to me, as he is, the character is just so vanilla.

The show has never invested in Eric. He should have had a presence on the show after Jensen left the role. It is why I did not like Rex being Roman's son. It was unnecessary when you had Eric. Eric being Roman's son and being raised as Rojohn's son for years had potential for dynamite character driven stories rooted in history.  The only Brady child that the show ever cared about was Sami.  

39 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I don't know about choice but Lucy on GH didn't have kids(although she's Serena's birth mom) and there are probably others but I can't think of them at the moment.

Lucy never had biological children. She lost them during her bad days. Lucy never stopped wanting to get pregnant and having children. She never had a miracle pregnancy. She was Serena's surrogate mother. 

41 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I can accept Eric not having kids it just seems odd he never experienced these things given that his parents are Roman/Marlena. Hell I rather see Eric have a kid than Chabby have one they don't need and Jordan having a kid that I don't really know what the point of is. I always thought Serena's secret should've been she had Eric's kid and kept it from him because he went into the priesthood and didn't want to disrupt his life but he got sick and she needs his help etc. That's a better secret than that stupid elephant storyline.

Same here, but, the show has never cared about Eric.. If only Sherry had remained on the show, I have no doubt Eric would have driven his own stories, since she created him and Sami. 

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11 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I agree with this although Eve bugs me for putting her vendetta against Jennifer over Ben so her revenge vs Ben falls flat to me. Even though I'm on her side here. 

I just don't like that Jack/Jennifer's story has Eve as the focal point instead of them.

That is my biggest problem with the Jack/Jennifer story. They never needed an interloper to be interesting. The same goes for all of the other supercouples, it is why they were elevated as supercouples by the writers.  Their uniqueness was what made them so special. Jack's amnesia and embracing his dark side without the baggage of his past should have been the start of the journey for Jack and Jennifer. 

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20 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Eric has never been married or had kids strange in soaps I mean even Will had both and he's gay go figure.  

 I have always wanted Eric to have his own stories like his mom and have children, but, the show has never cared enough about Eric to give him a life. However,  it is okay for a character to not have children.  Not everybody in real life has children. I would love to see a woman on a soap make the choice to not have children. In general, Women tend to give up more when it comes to marriage and children.

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1 hour ago, Sandman said:

It strikes me as entirely possible that the writers have forgotten this detail.

She was also her first grandchild.

1 hour ago, SnK said:

Not even a mention of Kayla's kids.  

I wasn't a big fan of the ep. There were some sweet moments but overall I didn't feel much.   I swear the show isn't even trying anymore. 

Kim's children were not mentioned either. I doubt I will ever see Andrew on the show. Stefanie should have been recast when Tripp came on the show.

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29 minutes ago, Haleth said:

The interview with George Will was very awkward. Another guest that the hosts pretty much dismissed.  Instead of debating his points they just kind of let the conversation die and slid into commercial. 

It seems the whole table was over him.  His comments about reparations turned off Sunny, Joy and Ana. George excoriated the Republican party Trump and that pissed off Nutmeg.  What the hell was up with Megan? Her comments about Mariann was out of line. That is not how you treat a guest.  

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5 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:

Totally agree!!!  What was is that he said that Ana responded "Oh, George"?  I've always had a soft spot for George, but he tends to be slightly pedantic.

He said that reparations should not be about race. That is ridiculous when slavery was about race and the subjugation of Africans who were considered an inferior race.  George can be pedantic but that is part of his charm.

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28 minutes ago, Sandman said:

ETA: It was awfully nice to see Christie Clarke yesterday, and to see the twins and Carrie with their arms around each other. Somehow I didn't expect to see Sami and Carrie treat each other with such genuine sisterly affection -- I will say "Well done, show," at least about that.

The last time we saw Carrie embracing the twins was when they were all kids with Rojohn as their dad.. Carrie embracing Jarlena was a highlight for me.. So much history between them.

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2 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

That was the day she started the show by saying that little little man wasn't it?

Yup, it was very ugly backstage between Rosie and Barbara.  

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2 hours ago, Blergh said:

Egads, I'd forgotten that!

 I guess Miss Walters has a soft spot for egomaniacs who pour on the charm for her! 

How about when Baba Wawa was trying to give Donald Trump the smackdown on the air after he told the world that Barbara regretted hiring Rosie and that she despised her. Baba Wawa denied it on the air and it was obvious that she was lying and Donald was telling the truth. Rosie knew it too..

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3 hours ago, buffynut said:

I hate to be so negative about a memorial, but I can't help it. With decades of history, I really wanted to see some flashbacks of Caroline and her family. If film flashbacks are too expensive, then just have a couple posters of pictures of the characters, and simply pan over to it, after each character's "speech".

And I have to nitpick the speeches too.  Other than John, did any of those character's "memories" happen onscreen?  Surely they could have dredged up something, even recent for the recasts, that we viewers would remember. 

The best scenes didn't even take place at the pub, but with Victor/Kayla and Victor/Hope.  

I guess my expectations/wishes were just higher, as usual, than what the show can produce. 🙁

I love your post and it was why I did not comment on the episode.  I was disappointed with the funeral. Only John's memory of Caroline was actually shown on the show.  However, It was Papa Shawn who noticed that John was avoiding the family after Roman came back and he with Caroline's support told John that  he and Brady were still their son and grandson. Kim, Kayla and Bo also told John at different moments on the show that he was still their brother, full stop. 

I wish that they had shown flashbacks with Caroline with all of her kids and grandkids, even if the roles are recast today.  Ken Corday could have open up the checkbook to do that in honor of Caroline who was such an important person to the Brady family.  I wish we had gotten dialogue that Caroline was with Bo and Zack as well.  

Kayla/Victor was very moving and typical of Kayla who has always been generous to a fault. Kim would not have been that kind to Victor. She despised him and never let him forgot that. At her dad's funeral she was a total bitch to him and I loved it.  I always believed that while Victor loved Caroline, he loved power and money more. It is why in the long run he and Caroline would not have worked.  Caroline knew this and kept Bo's paternity a secret because Shawn was the better father for all of her kids, despite his flaws.  Shawn sacrificing his life for Bo was proof that Caroline made the right decision.

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1 hour ago, Anthea84 said:

I think Biden is his own worst enemy. He is a good person but he speaks too much.

Also did he eulogize  Strom Thurmond? 

Yes, he did. Sunny tried to say that could be a problem for Black voters and Megan mocked her and cited a statistics about Black voters and Biden.  She said it with such a tone like she knows Black people more than Sunny. Why must Megan always denigrate people?  Sunny does not even look at Megan anymore.

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2 hours ago, howmanywords said:

A little secret, while there are no longer full episodes you can find partial episodes if you dig hard enough (and don't search for Days of Our Lives which will signal red flags for yanking). Not long ago someone on a Bo/Hope Facebook group I'm on posted from YouTube so so quality scenes from when Bo kidnapped Hope from her wedding to Larry Welch complete with Holding Out For a Hero..that led to a rabbit hole of some hidden gems there.

There are also fans who have hidden youtube playlist of episodes that you have to be on their list to access it. The same thing happened to me, watching some Roman/Marlena clips after they came back.. They were really good together.

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3 minutes ago, tinkerbell said:

There was the time that Sherri said she'd be angry if her son was allowed to play with "girls toys"  at preschool - dress-up stuff, or dolls.  she was adamant that boys should NOT be allowed to play with dolls.  And she thought preschool/daycare teachers should understand and enforce that. 

AND - remember Sherri being against abortion?  And then saying that before she had her "come to Jesus" moment about abortion, she personally had "too many to count".  ANd she believed that god forgave her, and that when she died and went to heaven, she would be re-united with all those unborn babies she aborted .  

She also said in a magazine interview that she was going to help Barbara who is Jewish to see the light.  It was her mission in life to convert her..She had to issue an on air apology to her..

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10 minutes ago, TigerLynx said:

One of the dumbest things I have ever heard - "Mitch McConnell should pay Barack Obama reparations for trying to make sure he was a one term President."  Uh no, that's how our system works.  People get voted into office and they get voted out of office.  There were some one term Presidents, but Barack Obama wasn't one of them.  Should the one term Presidents get reparations?  No, they were voted out of office because people did not like the job they were doing.

Barack Obama was the first African-American President in United States history.  He served two terms, and left office a very popular President.  He was a success story.

I think Whoopie was being sarcastic because Mitch the obstructionist said that President Obama who is not a descendent of African slaves being elected the first Black President is proof that we do not need reparations for slavery. Plus, if you are going to talk about Reparations you will have to involve Europe, the Caribbean, Latin America, Africa and how they connect. The British bought slaves here and it continued after independence.

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I need the talk to avoid complex issues like colorism.  Sarah as a White woman was asking questions about the validity of what Matthew Knowles said. Eve and Sheryl were disappointments as Black women. I wish they had Lupita N'yango on to ask her, has her dark skin and natural hair ever been an impediment in life and in Hollywood. Zendaya who is a light skinned Black woman has said that she is the Black girl that Hollywood wants to cast.. Zendaya is talented but she knows that her skin tone is desirable when they are looking to cast a Black woman, so, there is nothing wrong with saying that colorism is real and it exists. By saying that, it does not mean you are throwing shade on Beyoncé's success.

When Destiny child came out, a lot of the Black guys I know were drawn to Beyoncé because of her skin tone.  Colorism is real and has had devastating results for Black people in the diaspora and in Africa. I was so upset on how the Black women did not step up and this is when I miss Aisha the most.. She would have given a nuanced thought-provoking response about the issue of colorism.  Sheryl needs to stop being a clown at times and speak the truth even if it makes the beehive uncomfortable. Sheryl for your information, Nina Simone's dark skin and negroid features kept her from being a classical pianist. She said that Nina was not held back by her skin tone. I hope Black twitter go after her and Eve for their stunning display of ignorance today. Shame on them! Sorry for the rant, I was just so damn offended by the show today..

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6 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

I keep remembering random wtf moments, lol. One time they were talking about being judged based on your name, particularly people of color. It was in reference to a YouTube video talking about "ghetto black names" (those were the words used). Raven-Symoné said she'd be "discriminatory" against someone with a name like Watermelondrea (her example) and that she wouldn't hire someone with that name. I remember being pissed off because 1) she's a woman of color and should know better and 2) it was just plain ignorant. On a superficial note she had the nerve to say that while looking this:

 

Seriously though, it's a real problem for women of color - not being hired due to their name or their hairstyle. I remember years ago getting tips from a white woman and lawyer about appropriate attire for a job interview as a paralegal. I had long synthetic box braids at the time and she recommended I change the hair style because the lawyer at the firm was an old conservative white dude who would probably be put off by it (she didn't mind my hair at all, but it wasn't her firm).

Point being, Raven-Symoné was very often ignorant on the show. I guess being rich for so long makes some of these celebrities forget the plight of real people in real life...

Ann Coulter of all people called her out on her ignorance about names when Raven tried to come for her in a political segment where she was the guest. Ann Coulter was actually very good in putting her in her place..

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How about Sherry saying that her son who was a toddler was getting erections because of Beyoncé and Rihanna. Poor Sherry had no idea that it is normal for little boys and baby boys to get erections, it has nothing to do with sexual arousal.. Sherry was embarrassing on so many levels. 

How about anytime Sherry would say things as a joke about hitting or smacking her son during the middle of her custody battle with his dad. Whoopie would interject and at some point Whoopie told her she would no longer help her and Sherry got out of her seat and got on her knees and begged Whoopie to not do that..

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19 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

As much as liked Rosie she shot herself in the foot so many times.  When they were talking about someone who was Asian and she did a mocking accent I thought Oh Jesus she is going to get pummeled for this. And she did.

Yup, she was her own worst enemy and she was a gift to the right.  

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1 minute ago, blondiec0332 said:

Rosie more or less outed Clay with that whole thing.  According to Rosie Clay told her later he wasn't mad at  her for doing so.

Rosie was wrong but it seemed like the show and Bill Geddie was gunning to humiliate Rosie by any means necessary. Rosie played right into his hands for the split screen madness..

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Barbara Walters dressing up like Marylin Monroe for Halloween and speaking in character throughout the whole show. It was embarrassing and it was really time for her to retire.  A part of me felt sorry for her since she only had the show to give her some type of happiness and purpose.  She has always had strain relationship with her only daughter. 

Also Barbara constantly plugging her book, my goodness.  The ladies acted like it was on Shakespeare's level of greatness.

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7 minutes ago, athousandclowns said:

You all have minds like steel traps!  I loved Elizabeth with arms thrown over the back of the couch telling Kathy Griffen she didn’t find her funny. 

Elizabeth thought she was being a badass and she looked like a fool.  Kathy was mocking her throughout the whole exchange. 

How about after the split screen with Rosie, Alicia Silverstone refused Elizabeth hugging her. It was obvious that she was team Rosie, since she had witnessed the exchange backstage.

Kelly from Kelly and Ryan confronting Rosie on the air via a phone call that she was wrong to call her homophobic regarding Clay Aiken, Megan's bestie.  I thought it was Bill Geddie humiliating Rosie, Kelly could have done it off the air. It was a predictor of the split screen that was to come.

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1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

I wasn’t a consistent viewer at the time, but I remember Bill O’Reilly saying Muslims killed us on 911 and Whoopi and Joy walked off the stage.

How about Bill O'Reilly saying that Whoopie was jealous of his success and she had a meltdown saying that she was a big successfull movie star. It was obvious that he was being facetious, trying to get a rise out of her and Whoopie showed her ass that day. She is very insecure, despite her bravado of being a strong woman.  We started calling her the movie star after that..

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9 minutes ago, sevenrings said:

The constant ass kissing of Biden from EVERYBODY on this panel is beyond annoying. 

It bothers me because the media is picking the Democratic nominee to face you know who. It is the Democrats in the primaries who should be doing that.  Joe is the safe White male that will save us and that just annoys the hell out of me.. Let us see what the others in the race have to say...

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3 minutes ago, ari333 said:

I did not really like Williamson

The ladies' behavior towards her made her sympathetic.  It reminded me of what Cindy McCain said after she and her husband went on the view..lol