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To me, Lucifer makes sense, because he didn't grow up on earth (amongst humanity). Once he was on earth he started to grow and mature( even before Chloe based on how he cared for Delilah and helped her out.) Rory on the other hand grew up on earth and humanity. Has a human mom, sister, classmates and I imagine friends. So it is harder for me to believe.

In regards to Trixie not being at the Chloes death bed, according to the show runners they did film a scene where she was, along with grown up Charlie, Amenadiel and others.(i think a grandchild) But they felt people would be so focused on putting two and two together matching the new adult faces with the characters that it would take about from the death scene. They said Trixie and other people we there, just in the next room.

I like where everyone ended up in the end. Lucifer as Hell therapist makes so much sense. I anticipated Lucifer and Chloe parting until eternity and was prepared for it. I just wish they had more earthly time though. What was hard was Lucifer having to leave Rory ( and pregnant Chloe) and not be able to raise her despite how desperately he wanted to and I felt the reasoning was weak. Lucifer was half way to figuring out his calling before Rory appeared, he would have gotten there on his own evenutally. But i think of it this way Lucifer staying in Rory's life with would mean the death of the Rory we've seen. This Rory likes who she is and its the Rory Lucifer and Chloe have bonded and fallen in love with. They would get a different Rory if Lucifer stayed. I do take comfort in that while she's an adult in human life, in her celestial life she's still a baby and Im sure plenty left for Lucifer to teach and more celestial growth for him to witness. So I've made my peace with that aspect of the ending. Plus I imagine Amenagod gave Lucifer updates and Chloe recorded everything for Lucifer to see at some point. I do head cannon him secretly seeing Chloe from time to time. Although not very frequently. It would have to been when she is out of town to limit risk. I do agree with some people who said he would not see or have any contact with Rory at all. Because if he did he wouldn't be able to let go. Lucifer isn't banned from heaven he can travel there as he wishes and now that the loop closed he can visit earth and spend earthly daddy/daughter time with Rory. Chloe soul was destined for heaven so i imagine (and writers confirmed) that she can travel freely between heaven and hell with the help of an angel. Lucifer controls hell so he can make it whatever he wants for he and Chloe, I imagine through one of the doors is a nice home for them. Lucifer and Chloe being partners and having adventures through peoples hell loop and helping people for eternity is a perfect ending for them. (thanks ep 3 for the preview) Although Chloe is doing a lot of work in her after life, maybe even as much or more than some angels Amenagod should give her some celestial perks as reward.lol

I don't think you forget people. Heaven is supposed to be peaceful and happy. So I am guessing that heaven just focuses your attention on what you have there instead of what you left behind. Because if you are grieving, missing and aching for the life you left behind, how is it heaven? It's just more suffering. I imagine it's just not something you dwell on unless someone directly brings it to you attention.

Hannahs spell to hide the family most likely only refers to her bloodline, not family by marriage. Montrose isn't related to Hannah, Tic's mom is. Which is why Christina had to use Montrose to lure Tic. And probably why Tic and Leti running away(like Montrose suggested) wouldn't have worked in the long run. I imagine as long as Leti was carrying Tic's child Christina would be able to find them, but as soon as Leti gave birth she probably wouldn't be protected by the spell as she was no longer carry Hannah descendant.

It's in the stickied post, that get updated when the mod feels a leak is legit. just check top posts.

Right, Tyrion has been a shitty hand and then gets rewarded by being hand. Nothings changed. They are right back where they started. they have a king and a council.

More spoiler from freefolk, from a person who correctly spoiled ep 5. I hate it. And unless there some parts missing it doesn't look seem like an hour worth of an episode. So really Drogon really just flys away with Danys body and that's it. So stupid. May 16th Updates Jon, Davos and Tyrion are walking through the aftermath of Kings Landing. Tyrion walks through what's left of the castle and sees Jaime's hand so he starts to uncover the rubble and he confirms both Cersei and Jaime are dead. They find Grey Worm and his men they have Lannister Soldiers trapped and they're about to kill them. Jon trys to tells Grey Worm to stop. Grey Worm tells Jon that its the queens orders. Then they cut to Dany giving a speech pretty much saying how she freed the people from Kings Landing and the new goal is freeing the rest of the world. Dany turns to Tyrion and tells him he committed treason. Tyrion tells her that she killed thousands of innocent people and he takes off the hands pin and throws it. Dany sends him to prison. Jon goes to see her and she sitting on the Iron throne alone and John tells her that she needs to stop being a crazy bitch and that Grey Worm killed the Lannisters army from the previous scene. Dany tells Jon that she's doing it for the people. Jon pretends to understand and tricks her. When her guard is down he stabs her. Drogon comes and is standing over her body and he burns or melts the Iron throne and carries her away. Grey Worm has Tyrion and Jon as his prisoners. The *council is (led by Sansa) tells Grey Worm to release Jon back to them but he refuses. That's when Tyrion says that the new King or Queen should decide what happens to Jon. Sam suggest for a democratic vote for the new king. Tyrion calls that idea stupid. The council votes and decide Bran Should be the King. Bran picks Tyrion as his hand. Tyrion tells Jon that his punishment is going back to the wall and join the Knights Watch. Grey Worm accepts Jons punishment. He doesn't bend the knee leaves with his troops and Dothraki on ships to go free Slave cities. They show Tyrion leading the council. Jon says goodbye to Sansa and Arya. Arya tells them she isn't going back home. She's going to explore whatever is west of Westeros because that's where no one has been. The final scene is a Closing montage. You see Arya on a ship, Sansa ruling Winterfell and Jon doesnt stay at the wall he reunites with Tormund and Ghost. *Council Members: Samwell Tarly the Grand Maester, Davos Seaworth Master of ships, Bronn Master of Coin and High Garden, Brienne (not sure) Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Yara Greyjoy Lord of Iron Islands, Robin Arryn Lord of Kingdom of the Mountain and the Vale, Gendry Baratheon Lord of Storm's End, Yohn Royce Lord of Runestone, Hound doesn't get mentioned., Podrick is wheeling around Bran and he protects him. Ellaria Sand doesn't get mentioned (i asked because she's alive). Sam mentions that they seen Drogon in some location but aren't sure. Bran just says, "ill look for him" They don't have a Master of Laws and Whisperers. Tyrion is looking for the right people to fill those spots. They don't clarify what Bran did when he was in warg during The Long Night. Did i forget to mention the most important detail about this entire episode? our good boy gets a pat from Jon.

How does Jon get away with killing Dany? She still has a lot of soldiers loyal to her. I guess the part of the leak saying Jon surrenders it true. What happens to her armies and Dragons. They don't have the means to kill them

Reading these leaks I wonder if Jon actually does kill Dany this ep instead of ep 6 the person who tweeted said they didn’t see the last 20 minutes.

I think the issue is how they get there. The journey absolutely matters.

I guess. It sucks though, that she is the one that is made the example of. Robert was murdering babies and women. And Ned was still his BFF so much so he named his first son after him.

Your Walter White is a great example is great. What he became is always a part of who he was deep down IMO. But we saw events for fives season that slowly led to that part coming out of him. If this is the story David and Dan what to tell, they really need the full 10 eps for season 7 and 8 to do so. But it feels like they put in their two weeks notice, and just doing what they have to do to finish out the job. But if the bells set Dany off, then it's a psychotic break, not necessarily her true nature. Someone mentioned Buffy and Angel. I can definitely see something where Jon goes to see her and she reverts back to the girl he was with on the ship, and he kills her anyway. God even with all the leaks I still cannot see Jon killing Dany. Any Dany definitely has the hero edit, Nutter even called Dany, Tyrion, and Greyworm the heroes in the scene with Cersei. Probably to shock you, when she does something unforgivable.

I must say, I have no issue with Dany executing Varys, not only is he actively plotting against her. But when Tyrion asked what about her, the look on his face was, "she clearly has to die" So yea fake as Varys can burn. I wonder what Dany turning mad looks like. It seems that Greyworm starts the riot, so what does Dany being mad look like. Is she just yelling "Burn them all" laughing at the people dying, etc.

I can completely buy that the fates of the characters are the same. But how that got there that's all D&D. Yes, armies rape and pillage. But somethings just don't transfer well to TV. They upped the ages of the characters because having characters that young in the situations the GOT puts them it wasn't going to work on TV. The only people of color raping and murdering like crazy people ain't going to play well. The fact the D&D don't know any better is frightening.