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At least US Magazine is up her ass. She probably has a deal with them for gossip.

Oh she actually spoke it.. There is video evidence in the link I posted. Just blows my mind the level of delusional she has.

"What I represent to women is to love yourself, be empowered, go out and get it and I think this season surprised me so much just looking around and seeing women try to take down my business or claim that it was theirs. I was just perplexed and kind of a bit disenchanted with the representation of women on our show." http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/bethenny-frankel-talks-luann-de-lesseps-feud-rhony-drama-w438934 I kid you not, that actually came out of the star of this threads mouth! All I will add is that I am certain B's minions read the various boards to keep up to date on how to spin things so when any of you get to this post can you take a break from trying to sell Jules a vowel and buy Bethenny a f**king clue. Won't even touch upon the part where she calls Luann a cockroach because WOW, just WOW.

If that Tamara Tattles was correct and Bethenny had a picture of one of the castmates using coke to use on the show then it's possible the reason some of the ladies shut it down was because they know Bethenny would pull out those pictures if they pushed the topic. She clearly had special permission to have her phone on set as a tool. I just really don't understand how Bethenny still has fans. I can't wrap my head around it because it just seems so obvious what a horrible person she is that has no respect for boundaries of her castmates while insisting they stay out and respect hers. I can't help but wonder at times if her more vocal fans are employees. Whoever runs the SkinnyGirlBrand account engages in this horseshit which again, blows my mind because you want to sell the shit, not alienate women who might buy it. eta...and for the record I think all housewives on all franchises have their issues, you would have to to take part in this type of show. I just find her to be incredibly mean, nasty, vile, vulgar, narcissistic and most concerning is how destructive she is with zero empathy for anyone in her path. Its just not normal. Finally I can't help but laugh at the irony of Andy Cohen's twitter campaign/rampage against Donald Trump while celebrating, at the same time, Bethenny Frankel. Does he really not see the similarities?

Bethenny is the one who said it on the show which is how it became a topic. Bethenny and Carole have also, since the reunion, made tweets about drug use on their show with stupid little alcohol and pill icons. The first time I recall Jules and her ED were a topic was when Bethenny met up with Dorinda, Jules and the two guys for lunch and started talking to Dorinda about how much Jules freaks her out with her long hair and her bones and started comparing her to her mother and how she knows an ED when she sees it. Which in hindsight was correct but my god how f**king rude she is to sit there and say that shit in that setting. Then we see Carole carrying it on at the bra party in another, to me, "wtf is with these rude women" and there is no way that Bethenny hadn't filled her in about the new anorexic cast member before that. The way those two went at her is just mindblowing. Sonja is an idiot. She is losing her Grey Gardens charm that she once held for me.

I don't think anyone is saying it is acceptable for Bethenny to call the daughter OR the wife during the taping of the reunion thereby dragging them into this conversation. In fact the vast majority seem appalled she did this. I think only B supporters are ok with it. What people are saying is they would be much more interested in the wife's take on the situation than the daughters. That's not the same as wanting the wife on the show to discuss.

I think telling Bethenny she was a terrible evil person was exactly right. Adding "no wonder your mother never wanted you" is something Bethenny would say, classless and below the belt. Stooping to that level is what Bethenny wants because you then give her a soundbite she will zoom in on and manipulate. But by just saying terrible and evil Luann, imo, played it right.

Oh well. If you lie down with dogs you will get up with fleas. Disappointed the Queen of Clichés, Bethenny, didn't recognize that soon enough.

To change the subject from Bethenny and her adulterer for a moment because it's all getting a bit zzzzz are they any theories on why Sonja was sitting on the couch with Jules, Dorinda and Luann? In my mind, from the series we just watched, Sonja jumped ship and crawled up B's ass so I'm a bit confused as to the couch arrangements. Now I imagine the reason Carole wasn't sitting beside Bethenny is because Ramona was never going to sit at the dreaded END of the couch, that one is easy, but I am curious about Sonja's position. btw.. While I think Luann's inability to spell Bethenny is funny and probably indicative of her giving zero f**ks I don't think it is comparable to how she pronounces Sonja. I think that is just a vowel issue for her and when she speaks freely that is the sound she makes, I have a similar problem with Sonja's name and it's not intentional. It's just habit. For me to say Sonja's name the way it is meant I need to see it spelled Sónja so that my brain recognizes it's meant to be a long O sound. I had a friend named Adrianna and she pronounced it with a long A sound. I had trouble saying the name that way and always said Aww-driawna. Fortunately for me she liked the way it sounded better so it was never a big issue.

One more time. The only thing that proves is he had surgery in July so probably couldn´t perform. How does it prove they weren't together before the back surgery? It proves nothing. Let's get real here. If ANY other woman on that couch, aside from the Victorian puritan that showed up last night, told the same story and timeline as Bethenny is doing BETHENNY would be the first person to call bullshit on them.

The daughter knows what she was told. That's all the daughter knows. How many married men who cheat on their wives do it in front of their kids?

And in January she is telling Carole he wants to marry her and she is reconsidering her stance on never getting married again WHILE she is still trying to finalize her divorce with Jason? The back surgery proves nothing other than he had back surgery.

Why would Luann raise her hand. She is the one who made the accusation so she obviously thinks it lol.

Oh I'm sure.

So Dennis had back surgery in July and 5 months later he and Bethenny, Carole and Adam go on a New Years holiday together and directly following that short trip, in a conversation with Carole, says he wants to marry her and she is reconsidering her stance to never marry again. LMAO. Ok, I was wrong, they clearly weren't together BS (before surgery :P)

That is one of my favourite reasons Bethenny gives in that Berkshire episode for why she won't talk about the guy she is dating. How anyone buys what she is selling blows my mind.

Disagree. They definitely were trying to keep it out of the public. You believe Bethenny. I don't believe a word from her regarding this situation. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

Um, none of the public walking around holding hands and apartment hunting happened until AFTER the articles started coming out about her dating the husband of a friend. It was typical PR behaviour trying to show, once exposed, that they are not trying to hide anything. As for him having back surgery and being laid up at home for the past year. What are the time stamps on that?

Um, stating the obvious here but how exactly would the daughter know when their relationship started? They've all known each other a long time, the only two people who really know when the line was first crossed are Dennis and Bethenny. And if it did cross the line at the wrong time do we really believe Bethenny is going to tell ANYONE the truth about that? Do we really think she is going to come clean with his kids? She can't even be honest about superficial shit, there is NO WAY she is going to be honest about something like that. Phone call for me means nothing. Other than the poor judgement Bethenny and Dennis have allowing the daughter to be brought into this.

I think someone should set up Jules and Jason and see how that works out. Story for next season maybe! They both seem to have good friends and families they are close with, he would be more involved with the children and she would just be a lot nicer and more pleasant to be around.

Bethenny and Carole have certainly been saying it on twitter.

She is probably wearing Spanx or something similar.

I find the funniest part of that photo Ramona's hands rising in what looks like shocked tension yet Dorinda sits calmly with hands on knees. I'm guessing this is where Bethenny lunges like a lunatic towards Luann lol.

One has to wonder then, if a mention on CNN is a measure of public reaction, what the hell Bethenny is so upset about? You have a successful, financially independent woman who has a healthy child and according to her a happy life full of love and friends YET she is so bitter, mean, spiteful and vicious. Every interview she gives to some entertainment channel an excuse is offered for her behaviour and she continues to make digs at the women she filmed with. Throwing around damaging and cruel accusations like candy. Just bizarre behaviour for the type of person I described in sentence two. She clearly needs a new therapist. Or maybe just a reality check and some cold hard truth. But maybe she can't handle the truth.

What you write here could very well apply to Bethenny. Hopefully we will be closer to figuring out who the king was after the reunion. From where I'm sitting this turned out worse for Bethenny than it did for Luann. Btw.....Luann unearthing an article and linking to it in her blog AFTER the Berkshires episode airs where she is called a whore, a f*ckdoll and someone who can not be trusted around married men doesn't seem like a first shot to me. Seems like a "ahem, hypocrite much" moment.