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"Deadly Dance" After watching and thinking this one over, I'm kind of the mind that Doug was not an innocent victim in all this. I'm not sure Ashley's life was in imminent danger in the moment she shot him, but I think she feared him and wanted him out of her and her daughter's life. Like quite possibly they got into an argument while packing/loading up, he got nasty, and things turned heated, which caused her to grab the gun and react. I thought the daughter was a piece of work too. She definitely came off immature to say the least. When she was on the stand testifying and complaining about having a stepmom tell her what to do after her mom was gone only 9 months, I thought that was hardly Ashley's fault but her father's for remarrying before his daughter had sufficient time to grieve and accept a new women in his life on top of marrying someone he only knew for 13 freaking days. Speaking of the 13-day courtship, I couldn't help but think that it was obvious they rushed into this before true colors showed. I wonder what Ashley's mother and other family members thought of Doug. It definitely stuck out at me that aside from his daughter, it was other men defending Doug. Definitely would have liked to hear from his dead wife's family. Agree, I thought that judge came off particularly harsh and maybe quick to dismiss domestic abuse. I had to wonder though; they said the judge specifically gave him the daughter's medical rights. Perhaps Ashley was withholding childhood vaccines from the baby and the judge was disgusted with her over that. I got those vibes with this one too. Also, I know exhuming a grave is costly, but after Doug was dead and Ashley was on trial, seems like it would have been worth it to look further into the first wife's death just to be sure.

As soon as the prosecution presented to the jury that David faked his injury as part of a premeditated plan and killed her with his feet instead of the barbell, I knew the case was toast. I think they might have had better luck to stick with a crime of passion in the heat of the moment with the barbell. I know I personally couldn't come up with a logical reason for burning your exercise equipment and hiding it in the backyard. For the most part, there's enough evidence there to make me believe David did it. The dude had some issues. Also stalking your ex-wife while you're on bail for murdering your first isn't exactly a good (read sane) look. Most normal people would be more concerned and preoccupied with proving their innocence. That all being said, obnoxious old rich white guy is up to something/is hiding something. Not sure what exactly, but I don't think he's as uninvolved in all this as he claims. Interesting that the police have both of her cell phones; they should know if there was any indication of involvement between Karen and his son-in-law. Were the teenage sons not home the night of the murder? Since they were older, their recollections would have been interesting to hear.

Agree, it was edited/spliced odd. My daughter was watching with me and thought a lot of it was taken from the podcast they referenced. That blurred restaurant background was giving me a headache looking at my TV screen. I also noticed the segments were short and there seemed to be a ton of commercials. And holy repetitive with the constant reciting of the clothes inventory. Stiletto heels, nylon stockings, short black mini-skirt, men's white dress shirt, and he'd provide the tie. Let's all say it together again! 🙄 Interesting case/story though. Kudos to the women who helped put him behind bars and are still working to keep him there. Shame on that first jury on his earlier arrest who believed his psycho ass over the hotel room victim.

100% And the police kept asking her how often she slept with her brother! Like he only came over because the parent's fighting woke him up, but she'd been in bed with daddy the whole time before that (well except for when he was murdering their mom) and other nights as well from the sound of it I sure hope the police followed up more about how often she shared a bed with her father and we just didn't get that audio.

I got the impression that Suzann liked attention. The topless photo, the Survivor audition, stunt girl cheerleader in high school. I have a feeling her husband was way more put out seeing that topless photo on the internet than Suzann ever was taking and posting it. 5/10 "Sound and Furry" Oh I hope not! Keith is my fav. I'll take the woman last night over Andrea. No one grates my nerves like she does. My only real critique about last night's is that it was billed like it was going to be something more than the typical husband murders wife scenario. At one point she even narrated that the club/DJ scene was "about to give up its secrets." But that was a red herring. This guy would have murdered his wife no matter what job he had and probably his co-worker too if it he got him a promotion. While the story was informative--I didn't realize Atlanta's strip club scene was so important to the music industry; but then I'm a rock girl at heart and have never followed rap/dance music.

Yeah, I wondered if maybe she'd been drinking or took her own drowsy medicine before bed that made her loopy. I too wanted more background on that. I didn't understand why she inconvenienced the daughter by taking her room. I could never take over my daughter's bedroom with a pot to puke in (gross) at that! Talk about invading someone else's space and comfort zone. They said something about it being dark, but it clearly didn't have closed black-out curtains. And they noted she was taking work calls and the daughter was charging her tablet for her. That didn't exactly line up with her feeling so awful. Plus she was still wearing a scarf and shoes. Not exactly indicative of laying down to ease a migraine. It was a 4-bedroom house and most likely the master had an attached bath. So why in the world did she make the daughter sleep with her dad, yet we only got police audio questioning how often the girl slept with her brother.

Re: 5/3's "If Walls Could Talk" I kept hoping we'd get an interview with her first husband. Would love to hear his impression of this. What a strange bunch. Probably a strange marriage too. Had to wonder if Susanne had developed some kind of hero worship for Scot when he was treating her. Creepy though to leave the husband you're trying to get pregnant to for the fertility doctor who you're a patient. (Anyone else just watched this season of AHS: Delicate? I had this image of Anna leaving Dex for Dr. Hill in my head! LOL). Rather unethical on Scott's part as well. I agree the 2nd degree was probably the right verdict. I also think she was still alive when they "found her," which is why he wanted the pulse ox to know just how much breath was still left in her after strangling her. Also struck me as off that a doctor would need to rely on the 911 dispatcher for CPR instructions. Odd too that he didn't clean up the blood. I also think he did some mental manipulation with the kids. I suspect they probably originally knew more or could have recollected more important details, but he played with their heads and kept them from talking about their mother. Probably didn't get them any therapy either. Too bad Suzanne's family was in the dark about the investigation. This. I noticed the foreign country one and thought it was stupid. Otherwise, I try to just block them out. Talk about going completely off topic. That old phrase, What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? sure comes to mind.

My point wasn't that he wasn't free to move around the country (though when your wife disappears the police generally expect you to be reachable/keep current contact on file for further questions/follow up), it was that by moving around the country, leaving missing (and presumed dead which his first wife was declared) women in different states, and continuing a pattern that suggested there could be future (as well as more past) victims, it became a case that the FBI would assist in/be involved in as a means of pooling resources to gather evidence and build the case that would otherwise be difficult for multiple local counties with much smaller budgets and lesser resources available. You previously stated that "The FBI likely didn't have investigative authority to pursue these cases formally. The FBI can't just investigate whatever they want. There are guidelines about what falls into the federal jurisdiction and these murders likely didn't." And I outlined why it would fit an FBI case to assist on. Which it was, the boss just didn't prioritize it. The agent said so. So I maintain my stance of kudos to the agent who took this seriously, cared about justice for the victims, was concerned about preventing future ones, and put in all that extra time. He helped put a dangerous psycho behind bars, which might not have ever happened if the agent's boss had anything to do with it. Hopefully the Dateline episode helps gives credit where it's due and brings about a closer look/internal investigation into why this almost fell between the cracks if it hadn't been for that diligent agent. Smith was a danger to society and women's lives were at risk. Playing cards when there's no work to do/no customers in what I assume is a non-law enforcement workplace is hardly the same analogy.

It was a violent crime(s) by a potential serial killer who crossed state lines and involved multiple states across the country in both the investigation and the pursuit. It was not out of their scope/ability to give assistance, hence how the agent was allowed to work the case and provide their resources; it just wasn't a priority. It was pretty clear the agent's boss just wasn't interested in it. The agent basically said he felt vindicated when they made gains in the case to prove it was one worth working and deserved to be given more time/attention.

4/26 "Chameleon" (Better title would have been "The Face in the Dress") The NJ DA who gave that psycho serial killer immunity on the 2nd murder and the FBI boss who didn't put full resources on this case in the interest of protecting other women/future victims should both be fired. I hope this episode produces enough outrage to make some heads roll (no pun intended.) I don't know how they can live with themselves after screwing over that family, the daughter and sister of which were awesome. Those ladies were truly inspiring. Loved how the one detective said if he ever went missing, he'd want them on the case. This was a really engaging episode and with plenty of participants telling the story, Andrea didn't even ask too many of her normal jackassy questions.

Two things struck me about 4/19's episode: -If the guy hadn't killed a rich socialite, I don't think the other woman's murder would have been solved. Sad as is the state of thing, they likely kept after that very long cold case because of who the younger girl was. -There's some bad blood or something in the murder's family. I mean, he's the so-called best of the brothers and he raped and killed 2 women. There had to be some dark shit in his nature as it's a big jump from burglary to rape & murder. He could have just ran out of the house when he got caught. Both women were probably too shocked and scared to have done much. He stayed and raped and murdered them because he wanted to, despite what he tried to explain years later. Glad he surrendered peacefully and trusted his retired cop friend.

The Pros: This kept me engaged. Each episode ended making me want to watch the next. The premise was interesting, and it had a lot of potential. The Cons: The suspension of disbelief is off the charts! I couldn't decide if the author was just a sloppy writer or immature and ignorant of real-world logistics, laws, and procedures and has never heard of Waco. I mean, seriously….a minor with a pentagram carved on her back, who's escaped an insular religious cult and is likely in mortal danger, not to mention emotionally damaged and psychologically compromised, is simply brought home like a lost puppy by the hospital psychiatrist who is insensitive to her own family’s cares and concerns, particularly her middle daughter whose own safe space she disrupts. Instead of getting some serious deprograming and intensive therapy, cult girl is given her own cell phone and enrolled in a modern public high school where suddenly corn husk doll making skills are all the rage and satanic scars are the new badge of victim empowerment. This was all eye roll worthy enough, but by the time one county detective shoots another county sherif on the cult's grounds, where a massive fire, religious sacrifice, and attempted murder are also taking place, and not only have the state police still not appeared and raided the premises, but it’s weeks later till a search warrant is ready, at which point it’s then served by the newly minted cop and the detective who discharged his weapon as if internal affairs, the state police, and possibly even the FBI don't exist. Don't get me wrong, I know the detective is the good guy and I was rooting for him, but police policy and procedure and that legal good stuff. Meanwhile, the secret secluded agrarian cult who have a penchant for fire stronger than Beavis and Butthead and who are so desperate for their bounty and whatever all else their satanic wannabe Amish paradise village is lacking yet have the money, means, and power to control and pay off multiple police officers, lawyers, and judges have now quietly disappeared into the night lit by their burning church and led by their dialysis machine toting leader who they still think is groovy much like how starving North Koreans revere Kim Jong Un.

This has been driving me nuts! Where is the state police? She crossed county lines so it seems it would be under their jurisdiction. Agree! Suzanne is pissing me off. She comes off as a lousy shrink and a lousy mother to her own kids, clearly putting Mae above them. Poor Jules has had to give up her room/bed and chauffer this freaky girl around school while the older sister seems to be able to do what she wants, which is mostly being rude.

Agree, it reached a point where I knew this was another Andrea plays up the sensational elements episode. I felt bad that the victim's life was reduced to relationship drama on national TV when all along it was the skeevy neighbors that resulted in her death. Yet, she'll be remembered for all the boyfriend drama thanks in part to the local police and Andrea Canning's extensive coverage of it. Clearly, she wanted the twist ending, but more time spent on the neighbors and their revolving door of "visitors" would have been a more accurate narrative. Hell, they still never explained where the Christmas lights that bound her came from.

I thought it was ironic when the co-worker testified about how Johanna talked about the elements of a perfect murder and one was driving a nondescript vehicle, which she thought she had, except that post-market detail on her truck stood out to a witness familiar with cars. Like of all the people to notice her vehicle, the trucker was thankfully one who picked up that detail and could make the identification.