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That escalated quickly. Yeah, I wonder whether the actress wasn't available for the full season so they needed a credible way to write Grace out. If so, I suppose having Grace move abroad would not have opened up too many storytelling avenues. It makes me sad that those were the last words she said to Blanaid (that she could hear). I still think maybe this is a red herring and Ian isn't actually dead, but it's hard to explain away the fact that he just disappeared and didn't take his phone or any of his stuff. OMG for some reason I misremembered/misunderstood Angelica's introduction in episode 1 and thought she and Roger were dating!! Well, everything makes SO much more sense now. 🤣 DID Roger actually tell her everything (as per what she said to Grace) or did she piece it together from overhearing the sisters' conversation in the car? I don't remember a scene of her and Roger talking in the previous episode, either, and the way she said that to Grace suggests she did know and wasn't just fishing to get her to confess. I hate to be that person, but it seemed to me that Nora overreacted a tad to what Angelica told her. At the very least, get Bibi's side of the story first instead of blindly believing an outsider (who you don't even know where they got their information from). That kind of fabricated drama really bothers me.
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So happy to have this show back! I know it was a limited series and so this second season could be hit or miss, but so far the setup is intriguing enough, and as I've said before, I could watch an entire season of just the Garvey sisters drinking wine in Eva's kitchen and shooting the breeze. The sisterly banter is still top-notch. I wonder if they felt like, without JP, they needed another character for the audience to "love to hate," and so that will be the role of Fiona Shaw's character. I don't think she'll reach the levels of visceral revulsion that JP evoked in me, but I could see her becoming a very uncomfortable character to watch (the scene at the races where she lied to Roger about making the bet, seemingly just to spite him because of how excited he was, was a huge red flag). I'm not sure why, but my money's on the dead body in the trunk being Becka's boyfriend. I think they could be setting him up as being another "prick," starting off subtly with his lesbophobic comments in this episode. Becka having a nasty eye bruise in the body dump scene could also be pointing in that direction. Loving the addition of Det. Houlihan. She's absolutely adorable and clearly a smart cookie, and she makes a good comedic pairing with Loftus. I hope we see him grow to respect her as the season progresses. I thought exactly the same thing, both about the throwing up and the pregnancy test in the opening credits. Lastly, Eva looked stunning in that mustard-coloured pantsuit at the wedding. My crush on Sharon Horgan is back in full force, it seems.
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Glad I'm not the only one wondering about this. Like you said, yes, she could be bi, but the fact that she's been shown expressing attraction to TWO men makes me think that the writers have simply forgotten that she was originally introduced as a woman happily married to another woman, and it's not sitting well with me.
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I was SHOCKED. I genuinely expected that last scene between Máximo and Julia to be him asking her to give their relationship another chance in the future and the show would end there for good. When he kept going on and on about making Las Colinas great again (heh), I thought it was just his awkward, roundabout way of doing it. I yelled at the TV when the episode ended without us getting to know Julia's answer. I don't know how I feel about this, because if there is no season 4 this is just a really deflated note to end on, and the way things ended for Máximo in the 80s was not the most uplifting, either. I really hope they did this because they know they have a reasonably good chance of being renewed and not as a last resort to keep from being cancelled. The resolution to Sara's storyline, while heartwarming with how Nora and Esteban were involved, was also a bit meh since she barely said two words after the big reveal, and we didn't even get to see Nora interact for the first time with her daughter and a girl she was (sort of) going out with. All that being said, I desperately want a fourth season because I just adore the universe of this little show. They really know how to warm the cockles of my heart in a very natural and organic way, and I love all of these characters so much. Also, I thought perhaps they found a non-Colombian actress to play older Julia and that was why most of her solo scenes with Máximo were in English, which didn't make much sense in the context of the show. In any case, she was HAWT.
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I really hope not, because there's been too many portrayals in the media of women being attracted to women framed as evil or predatory, one of them being corrupted by the other against her will, and it's gross. I was really worried that that was where the movement storyline was headed, but was very happy that the resolution was that the actually evil entity was framing them and the dancers just wanted to enjoy dance and be in communion with each other. I loved the portrayal of Kristen being drawn to them from the very first moment she saw this group of women dancing very sensually with each other, and that her interactions with Isabella could not have been interpreted any other way. Mad props to the show for not dropping the bisexuality label in name only just for clout points and actually putting their money where their mouth is (although, as others have already said, Kristen has been having subtextual interactions with other women since as far back as season 2. It's just nice for it to finally be confirmed as canon). It's a bit of a relief to finally see Sheryl turn on Leland. All I can hope now is that he doesn't manipulate her into not going through with whatever punishment she wants to inflict on him, because we're only halfway through the season and it seems too early for him to be "vanquished" for good. That was a very interesting discussion between our leading trio. I gotta say, I did not expect David of all people to spout opinions in the line of "women are more sensitive therefore they are more susceptible to manipulation". David, I had faith in you, man! I suppose you can't be involved in the church to that degree without some of its ideologies with respect to women rubbing off on you.
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I'm calling it now, Julia WILL go to the funeral but she checked in under her husband's name or something. I hope we get to see adult Sara again this season, her banter with Eugenio Derbez's Máximo is great.
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Unpopular opinion but "You talk too much" is not a nice thing for a father to say to his daughters. It's a good way of showing Andy's slow descent into asshole territory (if this episode is anything to go by), but fathers being dicks about having daughters is so normalized that perhaps the writers didn't even think about the implications. And Kristen going along with it just left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm not a fan of all the "hee hee we know the girls are annoying" meta jokes. What is this, the 1950s? Little girls should be seen and not heard? Other than that, I'm so happy to have this absolutely unhinged show back (even if it is for the last time 😭). I missed Kristen being Kristen ("I giggle at the thought of you waking up at 3 am because the Antichrist needs changing" 🤣), I missed my favourite trio of skeptical/believer besties investigating paranormal stuff (Kristen being so doting over Ben after his accident melted my cold dead heart), and I missed crazy soundbites like "They think it's going to open the gates of hell... Don't look at me, it's just what it says". Wallace Shawn is fantastic in the role of supervising priest du jour. Speaking of Andy descending into asshole territory, if this is this show's clever way of going for broke and engineering a Kristen/David endgame, I am all for it. If there ever was a show insane enough to pull off a married woman/hot priest OTP, it's this one. I know it's controversial, but dammit, I love their chemistry, and why else have Kristen admit she has feelings for David after a whole previous season of not even mentioning it. I'm probably gonna be disappointed, but this is gonna be a fun season nonetheless. Yeah, I don't have the last episode of season 3 on hand to rewatch, but I'm pretty sure the party was for both Leland and her. It was made fairly clear that they were going to be parents.
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I agree, I don't want any of them to die, either. I was really enjoying going from 4 original main female characters in the adult timeline to 6 this season, and I thought there was still stuff left to mine from their dynamic now that they've reunited and are actually talking about things, so I'll be really disappointed if that happens. At least it will make the thousand-year wait until season 3 less excruciating, lol. (That said, if one of them does die, I agree that it makes storytelling sense for it to be Natalie. :/)
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I don't know. To me, the "truly terrible" award goes to Saskia for those few episodes in which she went full-on dictator. What the teacher did to her was awful, but it does not justify shoving Teresa's severed toe into Renee's mouth as punishment (WTF!!!) I was on Zoe's side since the beginning, when everyone blamed her for not telling them about the Pocco (heh) when all she did upon setting foot at the reunion was try to tell them that there was something weird going on but no one listened because they were too busy making fun of her. That was actually hard to watch because of how frustrating it was. And the show seemed to lean into it for the lols as the episodes progressed, like "Oh, this is obviously Zoe's fault, too!" all the while Saskia was out there starving people out for not doing their hair properly. Just didn't sit well with me. The "Forgettable Laura" jokes also got old pretty fast. I'll probably watch a season 2 if there is one because I'm in love with Genevieve (she's the exact brand of neurotic, dorky character I tend to fall for), but there were a lot of frustrating things that kept me from truly enjoying this, which is a shame because I was really looking forward to it.
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What was Evil Tai in the Mirror mouthing to Our Tai? I can't read lips, and there was no CC.
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Interesting how everyone immediately caught on to the fact that David 1) was a pedophile and 2) was about to rape Ellie. When he said that about how the struggle was his favourite part, or something to that effect, my mind immediately went to "Oh so he was a serial killer."
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Sexual orientation doesn't stop existing just because the world ended, though, just like I imagine there are still left-handed people in the TLOU world. And that's one of the great things about this show, for me. The fact that one of the two protagonists of this story, and the one on whose shoulders hinges saving the entire world, is a young gay girl. It might be irrelevant to her world-saving mission, perhaps, but it's still a part of her, just like being gay is a part of me. Growing up, I never would have imagined that I would get to see a story like this on TV, see myself in the protagonist of a TV show (especially one that isn't LGBTQ-themed like, say, The L Word), and while that has certainly gotten better in recent times, there's still a way to go, so to me Ellie being gay is incredibly important, and I appreciate the show making it clear that that's exactly what it is (just like when Tess asks her if they have to worry about a boyfriend coming for her way back in episode 2 and Ellie replies with a pointed "NOPE." At the time it seemed like nothing, but going back to it knowing what we know now makes her reply that much more deliberate, and I love that). On another note, I'm cool with the way things turned out between Ellie and Riley towards the end being left to the imagination. I have seen my fair share of one half of a f/f couple being killed off after experiencing a brief moment of bliss to last me a lifetime. Instead, I appreciated that the last image we have of Ellie and Riley together is them holding each other, resigned to their fate and absolutely terrified of what's to come, but staying together because to them there is no other option. @Danny Franks if I could like your post 457898 times, I would.
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Exactly. This is why some of the comments about Grace being a doormat don't sit well with me. If it was so easy for a woman to leave her husband when he became controlling/abusive, domestic abuse wouldn't be the issue that it is. I also completely believe Eva staying quiet for 10 years about the rape. We've seen recently with real-life cases that it's not uncommon for rape victims to stay quiet for years. It's hard enough for women to disclose having been raped when it's a complete stranger or someone they personally like. I can't imagine how hard it must have been for Eva to think about telling Grace what JP had done and risk her not believing her or taking his side. If I were Eva, that would have killed me. Anyway, I just finished this show and absolutely loved it. I am a big fan of the multiple-sister show genre, though so far I have only encountered it in non-English television, so I really liked that aspect of it. Every single scene between the sisters was thoroughly enjoyable, the actresses all played off each other really well. And of course, the big denouement of JP's death was as satisfying as I was hoping it would be. Kudos to the actor for making him such a despicable human being to the point that it caused me almost physical revulsion every time he did something prick-ish. Re: the fact that he was too one-note or too villainous to be believable, I 100% believe men like him exist: extremely charming to ensure they have they people they need wrapped around their fingers but also capable of tremendous harm, with zero empathy or concern for others' feelings except their own. It's why he creates such a visceral reaction in some of us. He's not a moustache-twirling Marvel villain whose ultimate goal is to take over the world, he could literally be the person your sister marries and whom you have to be civil to at family reunions, and therein lies the true horror of fictional characters like him IMO. This show also made me realize that the sisters (and Nora) were infinitely better people than I am because I could not ever bring myself to be cordial to a man like him, even if he was married to my sister whom I love. It just goes to show how much they loved Grace that they were willing to put in that level of effort (especially Eva) to make sure she didn't feel uncomfortable every time they got the family together. I heard the news of the renewal before finishing the show, so I thought perhaps it ended in a cliffhanger that justified a second season, but nope, everything was tied up as if it was indeed planned out as a limited series, so I can't imagine what a season 2 could possibly be about, but I am 100% there. I would watch 10 episodes of the 5 sisters sitting around Eva's kitchen drinking wine, tbh.
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I kept waiting for the reveal (probably via flashback) that Jen had named her daughter Joey because Jo was Judy's favourite character on The Facts of Life. That would have been cute and less on-the-nose than naming her Judy.
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I watched this show having only read the first book easily 15 years ago (so basically remembering nothing) precisely because I liked what I remembered of the concept and having the story told to me in TV show format was easier than reading it, and I absolutely loved the whole series. I didn't need any extra context to understand things better, and, having just finished watching this episode, this one and the previous one might be my favourites from the amount of emotion they made me feel. I was still reeling from Mrs Coulter's death like two days after watching the episode, and Lyra and Will slowly having to come to terms in this episode with the fact that they would have to be apart for the rest of their lives packed more than a punch than I thought it would for me considering that I had previously enjoyed them more as BFFs. Of course, 90% of that was the actors absolutely NAILING it, but it also rings true for me that whole thing where you "flick a switch" and suddenly you realize that someone who was just your friend is the only person you can see yourself with, so I didn't have a problem with the abruptness of the change in the nature of their relationship (also, as others have said, there were hints to that in earlier episodes). I was also super happy that Mary's great love that changed everything for Lyra and Will was a woman. I had been secretly hoping she'd be gay since we met her in season 2, so I'll take it!
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