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  1. 4 hours ago, PeterPirate said:

    But of the problems I expressed in my previous rant, I had the biggest issue with Jimmy unburdening himself in court like that.  I get that there was value in reclaiming his identity as James McGill.  But it was totally out of character for someone who's lived a life of crime since before puberty.  And Kim was in no legal peril so his words didn't help her out in that regard. 

    It felt completely out of character to me too.  I think the one thing out of all that which weighed on his conscience was Chuck, because he was singularly responsible for Chuck's death.  That might cause him to do penance.  All of the other things he could hand waive.  he wasn't directly responsible for Hank or Gomez, and even Howard he could rationalize was just bad luck.

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  2. 13 minutes ago, Simon Boccanegra said:

    Not even. Barely two months.

    His references to "two years ago" were to when he was abducted by Walter and Jesse.

    The entire Breaking Bad era was 2008-10. The final episode of BB took us as far as September 7, 2010 (recall that we saw Walter marking birthdays at the beginning and end of the series, with another in the middle). The football games Jimmy-as-Gene discussed with the security guard at the mall were played in October 2010, and the phone conversations with Francesca and Kim took place on Jimmy's own 50th birthday (November 12, 2010). 

    They sure made it like he was at Cinnabon a pretty long time.  That's a lot to pack into two months, plus why would he be that fast to jump into another con game?  I could see it happening after a couple of years went by and he was bored and depressed with his life, but after less than two months?  You would think that he would still be laying very low at this point.

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  3. I thought it was a nice touch after Jimmy talks about time machines with Walt and Mike, that at the end of the scene with Chuck, the last shot is Chuck picking up a copy of H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine."

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  4. I kept getting thrown off when Saul mentioned the events that happened "two years ago," and I thought it had been six years.  But it was six years since the Kim era.  So Saul only managed to evade the authorities for two measly years.  That's what happens when you get bored and start engaging in criminal stuff again.  I think he wanted to have a final escapade and then get caught.  He could have taken Carol Burnett's Life Alert off her neck and not let her press the button.

    19 minutes ago, peeayebee said:

    Re Cheryl: I understand her anger toward Kim, esp with Kim laying that guilt trip on her at the memorial. I know Bill said Cheryl was shopping around for lawyers in order to sue Kim. But what could she really get out of it, money-wise? Cheryl is, if not wealthy, then very well off. Kim has nothing. 

    It's to punish her.  Keep her tied up in court and dirt poor.

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  5. And so Saul ends, not with a bang, but a whimper.

    I enjoyed the flashback with Chuck.  I was wondering if they would bring him back one last time and they did.

    The other highlight was the bus ride with the prisoners chanting his name.

    So Saul gets a conscience at the end and blows his plea deal for a life sentence.  Predictable and kind of boring.

    Good that they remembered Hank and Gomez, and what Jimmy did to Chuck.

    They could have ended with him being Saul again in the prison, giving free legal advice to his newfound prison clients.  Guys waiting in line to go into his cell...um...office.

    So long, Saul.

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  6. 8 hours ago, Accidental Martyr said:

    According to the newspaper on Sergei’s lawn she was killed while leading people to safety. Her body was recovered seven days later.

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    That's incredibly bad narrative.  No one is going to see that and 99% of viewers aren't going to freeze it to read the fine print.  If she died, they needed to show her dying on camera, not surviving the blast intact and helping people leave.  I don't know whose idea it was to present it this way.  It would have been incredibly easy to just show her lying there like they did with Karen.

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  7. I suspended my disbelief that the U.S. is technologically twenty-five years ahead of us in this AU.  And I suspended my disbelief a little more that the Russians were able to keep pace because, you know, Margo.  But North Korea?  Seriously?  Where exactly did their tech boom come from?

    So we see Molly alive after the bombing and helping someone else get out.  And we see Aleida in Margo's empty office that got the shit blown out of it.  And then we see the headline about naming the center after Molly the fallen hero.  Huh?  Can somebody help me out here?

    It was funny watching Dev's inspirational speech to the troops get annihilated by Karen.  Money talks.

    "Nobody can stop our vision of a future on Mars! Nobody!"

    "What? My pay is now eight dollars an hour?"

    "Screw this, back to space hotels!"

    And so Ellen's House of Cards storyline comes to a merciful end.

    What exactly did they pack that van with?  That was Oklahoma City-level damage and McVeigh had thirteen 500-pound barrels in his truck.

    I don't know how plausible Kelly's Rocketeer launch would be in real life, but it was cool to watch.

    As soon as I saw they killed off Karen, I knew Ed survived his landing. They weren't going to kill off both of them.

    Next season, Margo runs into Philip and Elizabeth from The Americans.

    Also next season. Trinidad and Tobago beats the U.S. and the Russians to build the first colony on Jupiter's moons.

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  8. 11 hours ago, arc said:

    Sure, but all those are based on him making different choices. If there's also a kajillion options based on infinitesimal differences like a pebble changing where a guy stands, the combinatorial explosion overwhelms any chance he could have simulated all possible outcomes in a reasonable amount of time. The sim absolutely has to have a perfect recreation of the outer world in order for it to give Bernard useful predictions, rather than predictions that start from inaccurate initial conditions and thus very quickly diverge from reality.

    The problem I have is that narratively, who cares how many simulations Bernard runs and how accurate they are?  The only thing that matters is what actually happens.  I don't want to watch Indiana Jones run through the hidden tomb trap multiple times.  Okay, this time he trips and gets hit by poison darts.  Now the vine snaps and he falls into the pit.  He makes it past the pit but when reaching back for his whip, the descending stone wall pins his arm and crushes it.  At last, we see Indiana Jones make it to safety.  This show is complicated enough with characters who die and come back to life, are different versions of themselves, are themselves in another body, are themselves but not really themselves anymore, are different versions of themselves in different timelines sometimes in the same episode, are physical versions of themselves, virtual versions of themselves, and on and on.  Then to pile on top of that several scenarios for how things happen to these characters based on simulations.  Just scrap Bernard's simulations and go on his intuition, for better or worse.

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  9. On 8/7/2022 at 7:07 PM, BlackberryJam said:

    How can I care about hosts dying when they’ll just be back next season?

    Bernard? So don’t care. Charlotte? Really don’t care. Maeve? Second death for her this season. Vitruvian William? We still get murderous asshole William. Christina, Caleb, Frankie? They can all go anytime.

    How can I care about everyone in NYC killing each other? 😄

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  10. 15 minutes ago, Penman61 said:

    Gene doesn't have plenty of time, and he knows it: Marion and Jeff have his name, his car's make/model. LEOs can run that info instantly and get his driver's license and address.  

    Plus the police will go to bus stations, train depots, and airports, so public transportation is not an option.  That means driving to get out of Omaha, so he would have to steal a car, pay cash wherever he goes. There would be an APB, his face would be all over the news.  It would be hard for him to stay ahead of the law at this point.

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  11. 7 hours ago, millennium said:

    The Aaron Paul cameo felt gratuitous.

    I didn't expect Walt or Jessie to add anything to BCS story-wise as their story has been completely told.  I thought this scene was a nice moment but also important because it so clearly puts Kim into the BB world, albeit briefly.  Now when when re-watching the first season of BB, you know that Kim is out there and has been to Saul's office, and will soon be departing for Florida.  It's a nice connecting of the two shows together like this.

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  12. On 8/8/2022 at 7:03 PM, Penman61 said:

    All the naysayers (including me) gotta eat some crow:

    ”Rhea Seehorn isn’t much of an actress.”

    I can say that I have enjoyed Seehorn’s acting on this show from the very beginning.  She can convey more meaning in a simple grunt or shifting of her eyes than a lot of actors do with a whole range of histrionics.

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  13. I wonder what twenty-something hottie MacFarlane will cast next season.

    Also next season, @Chicago Redshirt, there will be a plot where the Union lands a prototype star cruiser that can destroy planets on Krill along an instruction manual to show the Krill what the Union can do to them.

    Kaylons back on their ship... "So you invite us to join your federation after all this? MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"

  14. Dolly Parton was a kick.  Still looks great, still sings as great as ever.

    I liked the medieval instrumental version of Jolene at the village dinner.

    The cattle prod to the eye socket was dope.

    I never liked Klyden, and I hated the way he left things.  But it was great seeing him return and make amends with Topa.  A very touching scene.  Nice to see him turn a corner, also inviting Kelly to stay for dinner.

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  15. On 7/14/2022 at 3:27 AM, phalange said:
    • Mark Jackson did some master class acting in the scene when Isaac briefly experiences a range of emotions. I knew the show would create an obstacle that would prevent Isaac from staying that way permanently, but that moment with him and Claire was lovely. 

    That was hands down the best acted scene I have seen on this show.  Jackson completely nailed it.  I was mesmerized by his performance, and PJJ was also terrific.  Those British actors know how to get it done.

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  16. 10 hours ago, Lugal said:

    Like Chicago Redshirt said, to some extent morality is subjective, influenced by personal and cultural factors.  Gordon chose to set aside his morality for his own survival as was his prerogative.  And to get back to my original point, to compare his situation to a lion is invalid because lions must eat meat to survive whereas humans don't because we aren't obligate carnivores.

    The fact that lions have to eat meat is irrelevant.  Raccoons and foxes are omnivores.  They technically don't have to eat meat.  Is a raccoon immoral if it kills and eats a rabbit?  You're still bringing morality into this. Raising livestock to slaughter is a human activity and subject to moral question.  Hunting to eat is a part of our nature and is not.  We're omnivores, so it is in our nature to eat meat, and we have to go against our animal nature to not eat meat.  There are even theories that the reason the human brain evolved like it did was because of the introduction of cooked meat into our diet and the nutrients our ancestors got from that.  But whether or not that's true, it's still in our nature to eat meat, so not a moral issue as far as I'm concerned.  Nature created predator and prey for a reason.  Gordon may have believed in his own mind that he was having to set aside his morality to  survive, but I would say that it's a silly idea to question your own morality when are are simply doing what nature intended.

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  17. 1 hour ago, Lugal said:

    Humans do not require meat as an essential part of our diet, but as omnivores we can digest meat or plants.  Certain proteins we need are obtained most easily from meat, but can be obtained in other ways.  Felids however, being obligate carnivores, require certain nutrients that can only be found in meat, so Gordon was not in the same position as a lion, in that he must eat meat to live.

    He was in the wilds of Connecticut, which is largely oak-hickory forest.  Both acorns and hickory nuts are edible, and can be gathered in greater quantities with far less caloric output than hunting would require (and they can be stored).  There would have been times when he did to hunt, but it was not his only, or I would bet, even his major source of food.

    He stated in the dialogue that he hunted out of absolute necessity, not because he wanted to.  So you can argue that it was the fault of the writers for not realizing that he could survive like a chipmunk - although even a diehard vegan would probably be sick of that diet after a while - but in the show's story as written, Gordon had to hunt to in order to live.  You have to go by what the show's story is presenting.  But you still miss the main point of what I said.  Even if Gordon did have other options and knew about them, and even if he wasn't anti-animal protein and hunted anyway, there is nothing immoral about killing to eat.  It is a natural thing and part of animal ecosystems.

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  18. 58 minutes ago, Lugal said:

    Lions are obligate carnivores, humans are not.

    How does that factor into the morality of hunting?  We're omnivores.  there is nothing immoral about hunting for food.  You eat what the land provides.  Gordon wasn't in a position to start his own vegetable farm, he was homeless and with no money.  He didn't have the option of going into the city to a homeless shelter since he was still following the temporal law.  If he wanted to survive he had to hunt.  He was in the same position as a lion.

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  19. On 7/17/2022 at 5:14 PM, RedHawk said:

    I recall that he said he had to "eat animals" or "small animals" as if he were revolted, horrified, and maybe even embarrassed. So I assume that by the time of The Orville, the killing and eating of animal flesh has long been considered a disgusting action of the ancestors although some may feel it was understandable prior to the 20th century.

    Well it's been understandable throughout the entire fossil record of one billion years.  There is nothing disgusting whatsoever about eating animals, it's a critical part of an ecosystem.  This show, similar to Star Trek, gets confused on its own morality.  In this case it's hunting for food vs raising livestock for slaughter.  I can see a society deciding that breeding animals to eat is repugnant, and many today of course believe this.  But hunting for survival?  Imagine a lion being revolted or embarrassed because it brought down a gazelle so it could eat.  Gordon can hunt or he can starve to death.  He can feel sorry for the animals he killed, but he has nothing to feel ashamed about. 

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  20. On 7/7/2022 at 1:30 PM, Chaos Theory said:

    Temporal Law sucks.

    It sure does.  The whole idea that humans can regulate time travel is completely delusional.  Trying to regulate time travel is as ridiculous as trying to regulate gravity.  If you believe in a single universe, then the future impacts of Gordon's trip to the past are already known, so bringing him back before he did anything could potentially change the future that they have experienced.  If you're talking about a multiverse, which is the how the show sees it, then who cares?  You create another universe while the original universe is still intact (eliminates the paradoxes too).  Gordon's trip through time would have immediately created a new universe, simply by virtue of the fact that he now exists in a time he never existed in.  His life with his family still exists in that other universe.

    If one time machine exists, you know there are or will be others.  The technology will spread, most planetary governments will have them, corporations will have them, black markets will have them.  I guess it hasn't occurred to the people writing the Temporal Law that not only are there people not under their control who might go back to the past, but people far into the future would be doing it, and the people in the present are already living with the result.

    Ed and Kelly were complete dicks in this episode.  Send anyone back in time for a decade and expect them to live like a hermit for fear that they "might" disrupt future events?  It's preposterous, and 21st century Gordon nailed it to them.  It's sad to see Ed and Kelly devolve from the free spirits they used to be to a couple of petty little bureaucrats enforcing laws they don't even understand.  Their tone with Gordon was totally arrogant and devoid of basic empathy.  Time to get them Civil Service jobs.

    Ed put his entire crew and the timeline at risk (at least according to him) going back another ten years with that contraption burning out.  If Lamar hadn't come up with the idea to return them to the future, there would have been hundreds of future people wandering around Earth and changing the timeline, not one.

    Gordon's reaction, "Was I that selfish?," completely rang false for me.  Selfish for living a life when you were stranded in the past?  Give me a break!  He would have felt some level of resentment, knowing that he had actually created a life with the mystery woman from the cellphone.

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  21. I would like nothing more than to watch somebody put a bullet into the pearl of Halelores.  I'm sick and tired of the character and the actress.

    On 8/3/2022 at 11:14 AM, LoveLeigh said:

    What am I even watching? I cannot understand or even follow what in the hell is even happening and it is now like LOST.... boring convoluted plots going nowhere.

    What happened to the original premise of visitors going to theme parks where they lived out their fantasies with robots programmed for that purpose? Why did it turn into some show about robots fighting with each other and hosts fighting and multiple duplicates of themselves in different timelines?

    It took me 4 sittings to get through this episode. This series has lost it's way. 

    I can actually follow the plot of this season much better than last season, which was a confusing mess.  They obviously have attempted to tell a much bigger story about what might happen when artificial intelligence surpasses us, which extends far beyond the borders of a theme park.  It ends up becoming too ambitious and too big of a story to tell, leaving a lot out, like the role of government, military, etc.  Yes, they could have kept the scope small and with a tighter timeline, and stayed focused on the original themes like what is consciousness, and the awakening and eventual emancipation of the hosts.  It would have made for a more conventional and easy to swallow story.

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  22. 1 hour ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

    I wonder what will happen with Marion? Either she'll be pissed that Saul conned his way into her life and brings him down... or maybe she'll want in on the action. Either way, Carol Burnett will be given something to do (it would be appalling if she wasn't).

    I'm looking for Carol to do the famous ear tug at the end!

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  23. The transformation of Saul from this wisecracking happy-go-lucky huckster into this cold, mean, angry, and bitter man has been interesting.  I never saw him so furious as when he smashed the phone booth when he couldn't get through to Kim.  And Jimmy/Saul I don't think ever would have gone through with the scam on that guy after learning he had terminal cancer.  This is the guy who did BINGO with the old people and represented them in Sandpiper.  But now he is Gene, a cynical shell of the man he used to be.

    And why does Aaron Paul look more like Jessie in Westworld that he did in this episode?

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