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Seems like the main event will be Daemon vs Aemond, which I'm just realizing is anagrammed lolz. Everybody else is indispensabie/ inexperienced. Unless they find riders for all those dragons on the their island ( still experience problems, but I digress). That being said, if they deploy multiple dragons in multiple places, Blacks should be able to pick up a lot of property, especially with Sunfire out of the picture. Vhagar can't be everywhere. Also, with Rhaenyra finally committed to war and the main cheerleader for peace dead, I imagine the Blacks should perform better from here on out.
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I believe that green has the advantage now but once Daemon returns from his horror movie it will be a different story. Team green is still way too dependent on Vhagar being everywhere at once. Once Aemond's obsession leaves Harrenhall , Daemon will keep Vhagar occupied while team black makes numerous gains. Also I want to see what Jace is capable of, he seems to know his shit, but he's still inexperienced
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The more I think about it and read other thoughts, the more I think that Rhaenys made a stupid sacrifice that served no one but the Greens in the end. She's the most experienced rider with Damon gone. She could've easily gotten away and lived to fight another day. Reading more of the history and knowing that Vhagar and Melys used to be besties when they were ridden by Rhaenyra's grandparents makes this a really tragic story.
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Yea, Meleys got underneath vhagar and it was clearly bothering vhagar which is why she had to drop and regroup. The director's approach made that last turn and attack command look like a suicide ride. Maybe she was over the dragon fighting, but once she turned, even Aemond looked surprised.
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Corlys ignored Rhaenys for a minute after Laenor died. I don't imagine that's his first time he's done such a thing after a disagreement with Rhaenys. I think she knew of his infidelities for a while; she just kept that fact to herself. Unlike Kat of GOT fame, she doesn't hold the father's actions against the son, hence the last talk about not letting his past hold him back.
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What's truly frustrating about Rhaenys's death is that she had two distinct chances to end the war and didn't seize them. If she had taken them all out at the coronation, losing only Helena, or accepted Damon's offer to go after Vhagar with his dragon, she could have eliminated the Greens' best weapon and brought victory within reach. I get that the former would've been undesirable for her because those were her relatives, but the latter would've been far less bloody.
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Thanks for the correction. I meant rhaenyra's grandma must've gotten stuck on rhaenys cuz it was currently her dragon. Now that the one person advocating for peace is dead, this is pretty much the real start of the war. I wonder if rhaenyra will stay on the sidelines or if she'll eventually tell people to fuck off cuz she wants to fight.
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Melys was rhaenys's grandma's dragon. She carried viserys on it as a baby.
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Id argue that Vhagar vs Meleys was more a case of Melys using Vhagars size against her. The way Vhagar quickly regrouped and got to hiding in the sky was a pretty good trick and since id imagine it was done at the direction of Aemond, Id argue he's fairly experienced probably learned that from the Luke death. The way to beat vhagar appears to be to get underneath her and don't let go. With Melys gone, team black better find riders for those unaccompanied dragons asap.
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the dance has officially begun. Aemond reading his brother for filth in valyrian was outstanding as was his dont give a fuck attitude and blasting whoever got in his way. Should've treated him better Aegon. Speaking of Aegon, Im hoping the historians change his name to Aegon the useless cuz he's just in the way and nobody even really fears him. Alicent doing the lord's work and making sure that Criston doesn't reproduce. Dont get to whine about Aegon being a shit leader since you're solely responsible for putting him on the throne. Jace showed why hed be a much better leader than Rhaenyra, he at least knows that her death/ disappearances are a bad thing. Cant imagine that she'll be able to protect Jace much longer. So Daemon is actually needed, but he's wasting time in a broken castle that nobody really cares about other than the king. Cool dream sequence, but still, you're wasting time. R.i.p Rhaenys the queen that never was what a way to go out.
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Crazily enough when King Aegon (not this aegon, the conquerer or the unworthy because of course), tried to diversify his bloodline, two of his kids defied him and got married, anyway.
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Different Aegon. Apparently, Targs really love that name. That being said, the Aegon of that book is a whole series by himself.
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Upon rewatching, some things struck me. Damon's preference for the title 'your grace' over 'my prince' is a significant detail that sheds light on his true motives. If not for Larys, we would've had our first dragon battle, and given that we rarely have seen Aegon fight, I think Baela could've taken Aegon. Rhaenyra and Rhaenys insistence upon peace was silly. This'll probably be the only time I'll say this, but Alicent was right. What were their expectations? That she'd convince Alicent to stand down, Aemond would take the black, and both factions would serve happily under Rhaenyra? I get they want to avoid war, but at some point, you gotta be realistic. Finally, the Targaryans need to stop talking about the prince that was promised. This myth has caused a large civil war, it sparked another war that led to the end of their rule on the throne, and the prince wouldn't have been necessary if these idjits weren't so obsessed with the myth.
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Will it at this point? Whether they fight for Jace or Rhae, they're still going to war, and a Jace who just lost his mother and brother is a lot more likely to be more brutal than his peace-seeking mother who will at least attempt to keep the war hawks at bay.
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Alicent lets Rhae leave because she knows that capturing Rhae will be signing her death warrant. While she might not particularly like Rhae, she doesn't want her dead either.
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Technically, they have two other riders: Helena, who I doubt will ride a dragon, and Otto was talking this season about his grandson in Old Town, who is almost ready to ride his dragon.
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In this week's edition, how is this war even going to be close? All team Green has is home-court advantage and Westeros' misogyny. They lost their smartest adviser. If what that civilian said was true, team black now possesses riders for their unaccompanied dragons, Team Green is divided, and Rhae will no longer restrain her army.
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Bookwalkers Only: Dragons Are Coming
Oscirus replied to Meredith Quill's topic in House Of The Dragon
It was fun seeing Aemond's baby mama. Looks like next week, fans are about to lose a Yooge fan favorite as the battle of Rook's rest looks to be happening, according to previews. R.I.P queen that never was. -
Remind me again, who introduced the knife to the fight and when did it come out? Why did Aemond even pick up the rock in the first place? So it's cool for them to slash at him with a knife but his defending himself is where things cross the line. How much of a threat was Aemond with the dirt in his eye? But sure it's Aemonds fault for defending himself. He shouldve just taken the beating since he's on team green and we all know that they suck.
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I get the feeling we're going to get more Emmy-baiting scenes. It's going to be like in Game of Thrones, when Tyrion and Cersei couldn't stand each other but usually found a way to be around each other. I have no idea what Rhae was hoping to accomplish with that talk. If anything, she could have wound up being a hostage or worse if the Green Team was actually competent. It's not a good Game of Thrones until we get a witch spouting spoilers. It's mostly a filler episode moving people and things around to set up future events. I wish Corlys would get over his name obsession
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Aemonds response was to push her back and they kept escalating. Four on one and they had multiple chances to walk away but didn't. The only reason the knife even came out was because Aemond called them bastards. Their being mad doesn't justify what they did to Aemond. Definitely not when he released Luke, and they were no longer in danger and still swinging a knife at him. When did they show remorse? If anything, Rhaenyra wanted her recently maimed brother to be brutally interrogated. Why is Aemond showing remorse when his eye got removed? The worst that happened to anybody on the other side was that they got a 5-second scare when Alicent went after them which was calmed down by Aemond who used the aforementioned quote
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watch the fight again. He was just talking shit, that's it; Rhaena pushed him, so he pushed her, Baela hit him, so he hit her, then they jumped him, and even when he told them to knock it off, they kept coming at him. As for the knife, it didn't come out until he called Luke a bastard. By that point, the rock was at Aemond's side. The other four started and escalated the violence in that fight, resulting in Aemond getting his eye cut for talking too much shit.
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1. As far as everybody knows, it was a fight started by two people on dragons. Only Green Allies knew what happened right before or during the fight. A person's opinion of what went down will probably be influenced by whether they're team Green or team Black with nobody really jumping to either side. 2. That fight when they were younger started because 4 people kept attacking him for talking shit when he told them to knock it off; they wouldn't, yet he paid the price. Hell, even after, he was in more trouble than they were. Luke was hardly innocent in that instance. 3. I don't imagine that anybody would kill the crown prince unless they thought they had Daemon's permission. If that wasn't his intention, Daemon should've been clearer in his instructions. 4.
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Compare how Tywin responds to Joffrey to how Otto berates Aegon. Perhaps I used the wrong words, but Tywin knew exactly what he could get away with, while Otto thought he was invincible because he was Aegon's grandpa. At least Tywin's arrogance was justified.
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Otto was so dumb that he didn't realize that telling his grandson off like that would lead to his removal. Not even Tywin was that arrogant. All team black has to do is get to Aemond, and the war is done. Nobody else poses a remote threat to team green.