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I could list out plenty of examples where we are told exactly who to ship and those ships are hugely popular - Max/Liz on Roswell for one... Fitz/Olivia, Lois/Clark from Lois & Clark, etc.. this happens routinely in shows where the broadcast who the "love story" couple is... there may be obstacles, but you're meant to ship them.
That's not the reason behind a lot of the hate directed at Iris and then by extension WestAllen.
Also - I disagree that the "chemistry isn't there" - it most certainly is. I get that chemistry is subjective, but Iris having chemistry with The Flash is totally there - but they are intentionally playing that down with Barry/Iris.
I don't like how they are writing Iris/Barry right now and hate how they've marginalized Iris - but the "no chemistry!" claims make no sense to me.
I hated all those pairing for various reasons and not all of it had to do with them being broadcast at the early stages but usually because they weren't given enough time to breathe before they started. The worst offender was Clark and Lois pairing in the tv show version with Dean Cain simply because Lois came off as only liking Clark when she discovered he was Superman and not because she actually liked Clark.
I don't for the record ship anyone on this show with anyone.
I especially don't ship Barry and Iris because of the whole BFF foster siblings relationship mentioned but then quickly ignored afterwards. It just comes across as weird and creepy and all sorts of wrong. Throw in 13 episodes where one of the characters still has no particular depth and I'm not invested at all in their 'destined relationship'. It all comes off as a snore, though I will grant that the Flash Iris rooftop scene had potential but only because Barry was being a different person at the time and I find that hard to ship long term.
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Knowing who was (and wasn't) in the room the night Barry's mom got married is a big deal.
I don't hate Iris, I don't hate Barry, I think the show is great, the build for Iris POV on Barry's confession is coming and that exercising patience instead of reacting impulsively isn't a bad thing.
Does Barry's mom get a name ?
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It sounds like an episode to skip. Anything meaningful happen in this episode to further the overall plot or just a filler episode ? I'm trying to decide whether to watch the episode or not.
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As far as I can tell, we have been told he liked her before his dad died and he moved in. So he kept this crush throughout what a decade of living together as pseudo siblings and after he went to college and worked (don't know if they both lived at home in school but at some point he moved out).
At some undetermined point he upgraded this from crush to love. This despite the fact that they never dated and presumably both dated other people at some point in high school, college and after. And iris never noticed and Barry never made a move, but it was obvious enough for joe to catch on.
I have some issues with this but that's how I understand it at present.
Yeah that's kind of what I got from the show... which means Barry's love has been stuck on neutral for a decade and Iris has thought of him as a friend while he's been lying to her for ages about it.
My problem is that they still seem to be stuck in neutral after the confession. Nothing has progressed. Iris is pretending it didn't happen or is in denial and Barry doesn't seem heartbroken by the silence of her rejection just kind of drifting along with his life still bored and still single.
I don't know, it just doesn't feel very epic. It feels very highschool. He's in love with her because he's been in love with her for ages and she's oblivious. There isn't any major stakes or roadblocks other than Iris apparently being indifferent to Barry's love. Maybe it's just me though.
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I guess I'm in the minority because I found the episode awful.
On the upside
The CFD only took up a minute this episode.
On the downside
The library was incredibly aggravating, they were all standing around having a pointless conversation while the people who had already been down in the tunnel for 24 + hours were in imminent danger of ... something ? It undercut the supposedly tense situation having them wax philosophical about the needs of the many against the needs of the few except the colonial style version instead of the Star Trek version.
I kept yelling at Crane to pick up a book, any book and read it's contents or have Abby take pictures with her cameraphone. I hate the trope of blowing up something ancient because of lame reasons. As far as I could tell there was nothing stopping them from looking at any of the scrolls or books. Even if they were holographic, they could have told Jefferson proxy to turn some pages quickly in order to secure the most important information.
UGH I hate the trope of destroying the important information just so the main characters can wander around aimlessly lost for the remainder of the show so they can react instead of being proactive in the search for new mentors/artifacts.
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Are you asking when Barry went from "crush" on Iris to being in love with her?
I think the writers are trying to say that he loved her that way before he even knew what being in love was - so I'm not even sure Barry could pinpoint that.
Max from Roswell loved Liz like that - from the moment he met her when they were like 6 years old or something.
Not exactly. I'd like to know more about Barry's love for her, is it all consuming? Is it a continual background thought in his mind? Does he lay awake at night thinking of her? Is he upset that she hasn't said anything about his love confession. He's a main character and Iris is apparently his end game love and I have no idea what he's thinking about her or when they fell in love or how they first met or whether it was first love or whether Barry loves her smile, her humor, her right punch. No idea. It's hard to root for a relationship if I don't even know much about how either character feels about each other or any real details about when it happened or why. Maybe it's just me though.
At this moment all I know is that Barry loved her at some point and loves her still without having done anything about it. That makes me roll my eyes in boredom at his ineffectual Nice Guy idiocy. Add that to Barry is keeping only Iris in the dark about being the Flash for some obscure reason and the relationship has no real momentum for me.
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While binge watching several eps this past weekend, I saw that Caitlin did indeed state that she wasn't too happy about the idea of working above a prison for super-powered humans, and she's definitely a main character. Wells also mentioned that the prison (Cisco's idea) was only a temporary measure, only to hold them til a way was found to take away their powers (another moral question right there). And on that point I doubt if Wells is in any hurry to do that.
Do you remember which episode it was that Caitlin mentioned her concern?
Have they been shown to be working on a Cure for Metahumans at all ? Also wouldn't that involve testing it out on the metahumans they already have prisoner which would just bring up a whole bunch of moral and ethical issues. Even if they developed a cure for metahumans what about people like Captain Cold and Pied Piper ? Are intelligent people going to get lobotomised so they wont pose a risk to the public.
I need to stop thinking about the logic gaps of this show.
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Iris clearly cares a lot about Barry. She's been there for him, and it's been implied that Barry hasn't had a lot of friends. She's done post-graduate studies, so clearly she's intelligent. She's strong; she's able to rescue herself sometimes.She cares about people, since she claimed that was her reason for writing about the Flash - to give people hope. She stands ups for herself. She's playful. She's beautiful. She's affectionate. They have history. While I agree that the character needs more story, she is much more understandable as the main character's love interest than a lot of CW females have been. And I don't feel like Barry has to justify why he loves her. Sometimes that can be done for the story in a natural way and sometimes it can't, but in real life it's usually more complicated than a list of reasons someone's awesome.
I'm not saying he has to justify his love but it's apparent to both of his 'dads' that he loved Iris since he was super young. It'd be nice to know what moment in their shared history that he fell in love with her. Was it while he had a family? Was it when she first knocked him out ? Was it while they were sleeping in the same house and he saw her as an attractive member of the opposite sex as opposed to a friend. I don't need a laundry list but it would be nice if during one of the Star Labs bonding sessions he could mention something about why he has loved her for a decade. It doesn't have to be a huge declaration of intent something as simple as Caitlin's "he brought warmth into my life" would suffice.
At this point I'm like, he loves her, she's oblivious, why should I care ?
Iris apparently has wiped his love confession from her mind or is in heavy denial about the confession so I don't know where she stands on the issue. Is she thinking of him as a man instead of just a platonic friend/ foster brother?
Barry has been doing things for her hoping she'll love him back. I want to know how creepy this love is. Did he transfer his feelings about comfort and twist it with early puberty into an infatuation on Iris? Most of those traits of hers wouldn't have been applicable when she was 13.
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I think Blaine is poorly written because he is a prop. He was essentially made for Kurt. And doesn't have any motivation outside of Kurt. And he only got that motivation when Darren Criss needed to take the lead in McKinnley because the audience wasn't going to care about anyone else there.
Well I remember he had issues with his older brother stealing the spotlight from him and he has major control issues and egomania. Other than that I don't really know his character that well. I have similar issues with Sam though, he's constantly being rewritten to serve as a prop for whichever female love interest that the writers decided to have him hook up/fall in love with that episode.
You'd think that Blaine being 'made for Kurt' would mean that they'd gloss over their issues and make them stop breaking up or at least introduce a third party to try and tempt one or both of them out of monogamy. It would ratchet up the tension if Kurt and Blaine got a love triangle... Other than Blam cause that was going nowhere. Normally I hate a love triangle but if the third party was a hot gay guy introduced to liven up Kurt and Blaine's sex life that would be novel for a tv series. Happened all the time during the Eating out franchise but seems completely overlooked on tv shows. There are tonnes of gay couples in open relationships and it would be hilarious to watch it unfold on the small screen... That could lead to some fun drama.
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The meta with Chris makes me think of a story he told when he was on Letterman about how after he became famous kids who had been shitty to him in high school tried to act like he had been in on the joke with them back then. They'd post on his Facebook page "Remember how much fun we had when we used to joke around?" And Chris would think, "No! When you taped tampons on my back that wasn't fun for me!"
I'm sure the writers would say they were just kidding around.
At least on the upside he's getting paid for this abuse of his character and he won't have to put up with this nonsense for much longer and he can go do whatever he wants afterwards free from this show. I'm amazed he's put up with this crap for so long.
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Sounds to me like you just want no gay characters on this show to be as gay, meaning to have "stereotypical" interest in fashion or musicals. Well, it so happens the particular show choir that's central to the show called Glee, sings show tunes. It also sings lots of other stuff, including songs from the future, and the gays you reference know about them too. They just know a lot about music because that's what they like, and they also go to a performance arts school which is supposed to teach that. And they're on a musical show - it's no rocket science.
Glee isn't a good show, but at least it has had a diversity of gay characters, which may be unprecedented for a network primetime show. The stereotype flag gets waved the moment any of them dares like the "typical" gay things. I think what's important is how well the character is written, how individualised he is, and if he works in the framework of the particular show.
I think Kurt has been given enough individualisation not to be called a stereotype. He is a character who likes fashion and musicals as many gays do in real life; who sang in show choir, and who goes to a performance arts school. Given that. I'd find it extremely strange if he didn't know this much about the last 50 years of pop music and musicals.But most importantly, the fact that he likes "stereotypical" gay things isn't what his character is about by a long shot.
I don't care about Blaine not because of his fashion or music sense, but because he's a mess of a character and was ruined by the writers.
There is a show about gay guys called Looking, on HBO. Nobody there likes showtunes or fashion. Maybe this has something to do with the fact that it isn't a show about show choir.
I think this has gotten to the point where you're assuming a lot about me instead of arguing the point so before this becomes any more tedious than it already has, I'll try and clarify my point one last time.
I don't care that the 2 main gay guys like fashion or show tunes but they've taken it such extremes it feels like a caricature TO ME... which is my opinion, which I'm allowed to have.
Kurt apparently is so fashionable that he got some kind of fashion blog and interned with Sarah Jessica Parker as a Vogue something or rather. I may have blanked it out the details due to boredom. Kurt and Blaine dress with a level of attention to their clothing that becomes somewhat disturbing. Blaine isn't recognisable without hair gel. He is a caricature of well groomed gay guy whose 'friends' don't recognise him when he doesn't put in that level of effort.
Kurt is stuck as the gay best friend of Rachel only to be sidelined any time a female wanders in and she completely ditches disparaging him at a whim. I think the only story line that Kurt had that didn't involve him being gay in some way was his time at the old folks home. Everything else as far as I can remember was being bullied for being an effeminate gay, Creeping on Finn even though he knew he was straight, crushing on Blaine, being annoyed at Blaine cheating, dating Adam for a New York minute. Even a potentially interesting story line with him and his time at Nyada was reduced to being about Blaine's diminished ego. Wait I just remembered his father's illness, which I suppose tangentially was related to him but didn't really involve him much.
I'd figure Kurt as being more of an actual character if he had any friends outside of Glee at Nyada, the place he's been going for the last 2? years. Or if he wasn't now dating a 60 year old man for reasons that are beyond me. If his life actually meant enough that uprooting it for his supposed best friend meant something to his best friend or was any way shown as an actual inconvenience.
As for Blaine he's a red hot mess, OCD, cheats on his bf and his only apparent goal at one point was to marry Kurt even though they weren't even together at the time. Kurt held that Idiot relationship ball for a while and now seems to be just loitering in the background of Rachel's story about redemption or whatever nonsense that's about.
My problem isn't that Kurt and Blaine are gay and like show choir or fashion. It's that those seem to be their strongest identifiers.
I don't know what Kurt or Blaine want for their future and they've had 90+ episodes to leave an impression. Adam levine left more of an impression in 2 than these two have.
That said everyone else ranges in and out of caricature status, the various diva offs and pregnancy scheming and the whole pious on the outside but callous on the inside. The heart of gold nonsense for half of the antagonists. I'd just like the gay characters to have slightly more depth than a cardboard cut out of show choir gays. Maybe that's just me.
Like Britney comes across as a poor caricature of the manic pixie girl, instead of manic, she's bordering on the edge of idiot savante territory that can be lured away with cereal or an ice cream van.
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It all comes down to acts esp with these cliché written romances.
Act 1 Boy falls in love with girl.
Act 2 Girl starts going out with someone else.
Act 3 Boy gets over girl and either starts dating someone else or goes away for a while.
act 4 Girl realizes that she loves boy and breaks up with current beau.
act 5 Girl tries to break up boy and his current girlfriend.
act 6 Boy breaks up with that girlfriend.
act 7 Boy finally starts dating dream girl
act 8 they break up again after one party cheats on the other.
Act 9 All is forgiven and they get back together forever.
I hate this formula so much. Mostly because the characters often end up undermined by the process.
Act 1 Boy is too shy, insecure or pathetic to admit he has feelings for a female. Girl is somehow oblivious even when painted as the best friend who knows everything about boy.
Act 2 Boy continues to be lame on the sidelines refusing to man up and say something or move on.
Act 3 Depending on how quick the new relationship develops, the previous relationship ends up feeling shallow and relatively unimportant in comparison
Act 4 Girl ends up looking like she was dating a guy she didn't love because he would do for the moment (which is how Eddie is coming across minus that one fun moment when he was doped up)
Act 5 Girl ends up seeming like a maladjusted person sabotaging the Boy's relationship because of impatience with a new emotion they just realised they had.
Act 6 Boy ends up looking like he treated the interim girl as a consolation prize until Girl 1 was free and interested.
Act 7 Usually boring anyway
Act 8 Usually endlessly frustrating as you're left screaming at the Tv "Why don't you have a conversation with the man/woman you love to sort things out"
Act 9 By the end of the Rollercoaster ride of stupidity and maladjusted dating tactics you tend to have given up on the couple as being a dead duck that you stopped caring about a while ago.
Usually the guy ends up either as the Nice Guy waiting for the girl to notice him in perpetual ineffectual limbo until he finally moves on only for the Girl to realise that she had no idea what her true feelings were until he moved on making her seem like a shallow cliche.
It's tiresome. I watched and hated it on OC with Marissa and Ryan, I'm hating the current direction of all the Glee couples and assorted love quadrangles. I've never understood the appeal of the love triangles. Can't they just have people missing windows of opportunities while they live their lifes.
I liked the Freaks and Geeks version better. The guy lusts after the hot cheerleader, she dumps her thuggish jock bf and hooks up with the nerd only for the nerd to realise she's dull and they have nothing really in common and he dumps her. Hilarity.
I'm still waiting to find out WHY Barry has loved Iris for a decade. What qualities attracts him to her or is it just hormones ?
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Isn't the society rule that if she breaks it off the woman gives back the ring, but if the guy dumps her she gets to keep it? I don't remember where I've heard that. I'm not sure who would want to keep the ring of a guy that dumped her, but it may stop Aiden from asking for it. I'm pretty sure it is in the bags with Sam's body parts too though, so Aiden's gonna be out of luck.
I heard that one from an episode of Veronica Mars where the rich guy tries to trick her into dumping him for an old bf so that he can get back the family heirloom ring without getting his hands dirty or something.
I think a diamond ring is supposed to be a consolation prize after being dumped or used to finance yourself until the next man or something. I don't know, wedding customs are weird to me.
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I just remembered Rachel refusing to give a small child and a mother who trekked out from hours away a dog because she wanted it for a publicity shot.
Rachel is not a victim. I'd wish they'd stop pretending that Rachel isn't guilty of terrible decisions and behaviour, it's incredibly annoying. It's like they want the people watching this season to ignore the previous season and accept the nonsense that Rachel lost out on Nyada and Broadway because of fate. Nope not buying it, it's cause and effect of the story they were telling, they can't retcon it away that easily.
Is it just me or does anyone else get creeped out when these people refer to themselves as a family ? With the amount of bodily fluids these people exchange can't they just say they're really good friends and that be enough?
*sigh * I'm not sure why I'm so annoyed that Rachel has become so unlikeable. This is the girl who sent a potential upstager off to a crack house just so she wouldn't have to work harder. I guess it's more the principle of the thing. Rachel could have been so entertaining if she OWNED her selfishness but instead everyone goes on about her talent and fail to note her terrible personality or behavior as the thing holding her back most.
Which I find sad after they went to effort at Nyada when her dance instructor shared with her how she ended up being a washout even with all her TALENT. She lashed out foolishly and had to pay for that mistake. Rachel hasn't paid for her mistakes. Hell she doesn't even acknowledge she made any. I can't support that kind of nonsense.
Also hasn't it only been 2 or 3 weeks since she formed this new Glee club with her own money? Did she consider that going for an audition while she's supposed to be mentoring these raw recruits for Sectionals sends across a terrible message to the other teams? Then again she knows both major competitors team leaders so I guess it's all moot anyway as the NND will probably win even though they haven't really had any time to gel as a team of 12... Oh wait still not 12 members. Wouldn't it be nice if Rachel had spent some of this episode looking for other recruits?
Oh well I'm sure a solution will appear at the last minute to save Rachel from having to bother. UGH
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I have to admit to not liking Kurt since that time he tried to set his dad up with Finn's mom just for an excuse to hang out and lust over Finn. It was creepy and weird.
That said I really do wish Rachel would stop disparaging him every time a female friend shows up. She seems super dismissive of him whenever there's another option. I really do wish Kurt would dump Rachel and Blaine and move on with his life and find friends that actually appreciate him and treat him with actual respect.
Sometimes it just seems like Kurt is everyone's emotional support and punching bag and he's supposed to be around to serve as either while remaining morally upright. It's dull and tedious. I would have appreciated Kurt saying anything at all in response to Santana even if it was something simple "Are we done now?" or "That was pathetic" and walked off unaffected. Kurt (the character) seems to lack any emotional resonance simply because nothing is allowed to stick for more than ten minutes. He dumped Blaine because they just don't work living together and now he wants him back ignoring the many times they broke up for similar reasons.
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eta: Being that this is the Darren and Blaine thread, let me just also add, as Glee dies it's slow and merciful death, that Blaine Anderson is without question one of the worse written characters in the history of television. That may seem like hyperbole but I'm going off the television shows I've watched and in my opinion, he ranks up there. Never had a clear identity and individual personality, shitty characterization, poor to nonexistent motivations, no character growth, poor choices and shitty actions, selfish, whiny, creepy, inconsistent age, etc. Just horrible, absolutely horrible.
I've always thought Britney was the worst written character with her wildly swinging IQ and her mild pixie girl antics. She's sometimes amusing but only in small doses. Then again it's Glee we could argue about inconsistent characterisation and nonsensical portrayals all day without a clear winner :P lol
I miss Blaine's characterisation from when he first started and was the confident gay guy from a competing show choir that Kurt liked and they supported each other.
Sadly Blaine has become increasingly neurotic, controlling and weird for ... reasons that make no sense and doesn't even provide much entertainment either.
The last time I remember enjoying a scene of his was when he was singing with puppets.
I don't want Blaine and Kurt together because they're dull together, I'd rather they find other people that they connect with in New York and move on from their only gay highschool romance. It feels like they're only getting together because it ties up loose ends without involving any extra work for the writers, casting agents.
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If you want "non-stereotypical", non-show tunes gays to be the focal point, maybe you'll have better success with a show that isn't about show choir.
Is there any need for Kurt and Blaine to have such an encyclopedic knowledge of fashion and show tunes going back 50 years to be in a show choir ? As you yourself said Sebastian was gay and in a show choir and didn't have either of those qualities. More importantly Blaine and Kurt being so similar in their fashion and music obsessions make them dull.
It's like how they(the show)/ Blaine made that joke about the Warblers all being gay because they sing and dance... It feels like they're playing into the stereotype that guys who like to sing and dance are gay.
It's not like every other guy on the show choir knows every musical hit from the last 50 years and they're in show choir too. So I fail to understand what your point is exactly ?
Anyway I watch lots of shows with gays ranging throughout the spectrum but that doesn't mean I find caricatures interesting characters.
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Before that she was selfish, but they treated her horribly back then, so who cared how they got screwed over. After everyone rallied behind her with the Nationals performance at the end of season 3 and her relationships with ND formed into genuine friendships, I really haven't seen any moments with Rachel screwing over her friends. Free free to correct me cause my memory of these past two seasons is admittedly fuzzy. I will admit that I am biased though because I believe her relationships with Finn and Kurt ruined the character. I do think her friendship with Santana was done right as Rachel was not afraid of Santana and would call her out on her crap (and slap the taste out of her mouth, when need be).
There was that time during the Funny Girl where Rachel wanted to get Santana fired from a presumably well paying gig that provided promotion for her show because it would shift focus from herself.
Which you could argue was about Santana previously working against Rachel and Glee in the start but becomes irrelevant when Rachel didn't want anyone understudying for her at all.
Rachel is a diva whenever she gets the chance at fame and glory or any sort of success. She treats her friends like servants and every opportunity for self aggrandizement she takes.
I'd like her more if she ever accepted responsibility for her mistakes or bad choices but with her referring to New York failures as "everything falling apart" as if she didn't decide to leave Broadway and Nyada when she thought she had something better, I just cant. There is nothing wrong with being out for yourself as long as you don't undermine the thing you're working for.
Rachel undermined her schooling by thinking she was better than her dance teacher, ignoring the advice of a season professional ( at singing? dancing?) the Nyada principal by thinking she knew better than her about fame. She undermined the Funny Girl show by being difficult about having an understudy, a stock standard arrangement to protect a show from failure as well failing to honor her contract and going behind her employers back to seek other employment. If she was honest to her director about seeking other opportunities he might have released her from her contract or used it to promote the show but she lied about being sick, interviewed for another job and then bailed on the show completely because she was BORED.
I could get past all of her Diva qualities and self destructive behavior if she didn't constantly require propping by her friends in order to do anything. The constant Rachel propping gets old. Glee if you want her to succeed let her seek out her own opportunities instead of needing Mercedes to come around and organise an audition for her and harass her into attending. Being told someone is talented is not sufficient motivation for me to root for their success. They must learn from their mistakes and seek out learning opportunities to improve otherwise talent becomes an excuse to stagnate.
Rachel seems to lack enough agency to be interesting. She had to be convinced to date Sam. How about Rachel decides who she wants to date Glee/Mercedes ? Rachel should try doing something hard for herself like looking beyond her highschool for dating prospects, get out from that incestuous choir room and carve out her own place in the world.
*sigh* Rachel could have been so interesting and yet she's not. JMO
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That was a red hot mess.
The only highlight was that Gideon finally opened a little to Jude and that Kyle is probably sticking around to keep me amused for next season if there is one.
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I always find it funny and ridiculous that these people are hooking up all over the place in public or at work.
At least Zero showed he cared about Jude a little this episode though I found it unbelievable that his agent wouldn't know his real name. Wouldn't it be all over his contracts ? Or at least a new legal name if he got rid of the old one.
*sigh* I shake my head at all these idiots talking about their secret plots at work where they also work with someone they suspect murder someone.
Why didn't Jelena just trade the information on Oscar to get rid of Sloane and Ahsha and be done with the nonsense already ?
I'm wondering if any of these people have ever heard of a photocopier for all these super important documents they're always having on hand.
These dancers never seem to wear their uniform at any of their dances at the Arena... It's strange.
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Weather wizard got shot up by Joe so he's likely dead.
Bivolo was shown to be imprisoned at the end of the episode
Blackout was killed but never imprisoned. Unless dead bodies count.
Blackout was the lightning guy? I'm fairly sure Wells probably has the body in a special body bag taking samples to try and replicate Blackout stealing The Flash's powers. Though I have trouble retaining information about this show in the long term so I might be wrong.
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I don't understand what you mean with regards to why she resigned. As her attorney, Annalise is obligated to mount the best defense possible for her client, right? So are you saying that she couldn't do that anymore knowing about the kidnapping? If so, wouldn't any attorney have the same problem? Do lawyers get to choose to represent someone based upon personal biases? For instance, if a lawyer takes a case defending a drunk driver, and then finds out it was also a hit and run, can the lawyer drop the case because the lawyer had a family member killed by a hit and run driver? Or can the lawyer just drop the case because that wasn't the charge the lawyer had agreed to defend the client against? Argh. So confused. Good thing I'm not a lawyer!
I think Annalise would be obliged to follow through with a defense if she had actually taken the case.
For instance the client was still engaging a criminal act by keeping that child from her actual mother so Annalise had that as an out.
Also she had been told to secure a plea deal. She talked to the DA. However there was no jury involvement as of yet so it's not like Annalise dropping out would hurt her case unduly. While that woman may be entitled to legal representation, I'm not sure that obliges her to defend a walk in...
She wasn't assigned the case and unless she had signed a contract for extended litigation the client may not be able to afford her.
Of course I'm not a lawyer and this is based mostly on tv experience and a quick google search about reasons why a lawyer can quit on a case. The case I read about that was used as an example was the Defense of Marriage Act.
Can we post links ?
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No, I mean not all gay guys, because you generalized en masse "all gay guys on the show minus Spencer". If you consider all the gay guys - Spencer = only Kurt and Blaine, I don't. I remember Sebastian appearing in his own clothes in The First Time, the gay bar scene.
Probably because I forgot that Sebastian and Karofsky existed. My mistake obviously. I'll rephrase then. Kurt and Blaine are boring repetitive and toxic together and they are tedious talking about old show tunes and celebrities ranging back to the 1950's.
I just remembered Adam and that other band member in Kurt's New York Band. There were other gay guys on the show but they were non events . Kurt and Blaine seem to represent a particular gay stereotype and their screen time emphasises that stereotype excessively in my opinion.
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I find it so distracting how these people have sex. They don't even bother to take off their clothes or adjust themselves before panning down so it looks super weird that Terrence was taking her against the wall and the shorts were still up.
S01.E13: The Nuclear Man
in The Flash
Which episode was that mentioned ? I probably blanked on it . I don't even remember Barry's father's name. I'm bad with secondary characters, they all kind of blur into insignificance in my mind very quickly.