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That was pretty amazing. Can’t recall the last time I liked a series finale that much. So much to explore on rewatching. unfortunately, the Canadian cable showing messed up the after show somehow. Hope it’s available online soon. And can’t wait for the last podcast...

I can't help but wonder where they'll go in the finale. Part of me is expecting one final twist, but it might be hard to pull that off knowing there won't be any more seasons to explore and follow up (unless we get "four seasons and a movie"). Otherwise it might be satisfying to have more of a curtain call, jumping forward, finding out how the likes of Shawn and Vicky and Gen are doing in the new system. But maybe that's too similar to the PARKS & REC finale. I'm trusting them to come up with someone more clever, but I'm picturing a final scene at the end of time, with the six leads after everyone else has opted for the final door.

So, I guess Michael was right about Phoebe being the one character in FRIENDS who didn't deserve the Bad Place... This did kind of explain the Good Place Committee always being ready to give up and concede anything in the last few episodes. We never did get to see any Good Place architects in any meaningful way (just non-speaking roles in the end of the previous episode). I guess they were unaware of the problem. Maybe Michael was right back in season one about them just setting up the neighbourhoods and not interacting with the residents, so they've just been waiting 500+ years for new residents.

So, in that analogy, Janet is... Toto? No, wait, she already told us...

Plus A corner for Jason’s selections, including Gleek and “da Super Friends”. I’m sure he appreciated Chidi writing it down instead of doing a scribble-scrabble.

Jason: Dude, pretend what you just said was what you said to you instead of to me. And you have to listen to yourself, because it was already in your own head and then came out. But just put it back in your head, and realize that it was you talking about you and Eleanor. Chidi: Against all odds, I know what you mean, and I got to give it up. That was... that was good. Jason: Yeah, it was. Chess... mate.

Shawn: Look, I put forward a proposal. Are you not even going to negotiate? Good Place Committee member: He's got a point. The fair thing for us to do is just keep on giving up more and more stuff we want unilaterally until this demon's finally happy. Michael: Fork this.

So Bad Janet claimed to killed the mutant horse but actually kept it. Interesting. I don’t think this is the final plan. Three chapters, one at least double sized, that’s like a whole feature film left to go, and this is a show which has turned on a dime multiple times.

It'll be interesting to see if we actually get to see some Good Place architects in the next episode, and if they turn out to be any more reasonable than the Committee members. Presumably they've been just sitting by for several hundred years with no humans to design for. Also, is this plan retroactive to people already in the Bad Place? Or does Jeremy Bearimy make that not pertinent?

Chapter 48 - The Answer Season 4, Episode 9 November 21, 2019 Well, they definitely went into their final hiatus on a high note. Getting flashbacks to Chidi's whole life is a great way to explain how he got that way, and presumably what he'll do in the few remaining episodes we have. I liked the mix of old and new scenes from the past. Think they might have set a series record for callbacks. "Esmerelda, you don't bring knives to a friendly game night. I mean, who does that?" "The prepared." How have they kept Esmerelda from us for four seasons? "These trivialities demean me. I must away and tend to my ravens." The Chidi/Janet scene in the coda to the movie night from "Pandemonium" is just perfect. And finally we get a new Chidi, a synthesis of over 800 lives and 300 years. Only a few hours until we hopefully find out something about what that means, and the significance of the note. If I hadn't decided to to a series rewatch, I probably would have watched this one at least a dozen times in the seven weeks they took off, instead of deliberately not watching it no matter how often I was tempted, whenever there was a previous scene they referenced in here. It's very tempting to make up for lost time and watch it 8 more times in the three hours until Chapter 49 starts... Right now it looks to me like the series is pointing towards some sort of reincarnation scenario, with the emphasis on being able to do better tomorrow than you did today and always improving. On the other hand, given my track record of predicting where they're going to go, that might be the one possibility you can rule out. And for the podcast, Marc is obviously joined by William Jackson Harper, plus editor Eric Kissack and co-producer Frank Sackett.

Chapter 47 - The Funeral to End All Funerals Season 4, Episode 8 November 14, 2019 I hope for his sake Michael gets the hang of one devastating human comeback before the end. Seems to be a defining characteristic of demons that they can't figure those out. Ah, the Good Place Committee. "We're willing to give up all of our leverage, compromise, and meet you halfway". Who does that remind me of... Really liked that we had some reflective time with the main characters at their funerals before all the inevitable chaos breaks out. Never quite sure what to make of the Judge, as she seems to go from being an ally to Team Cockroach to being the antagonist several times. Swings wildly into the antagonist side in this sequence, which kind of makes me think she'll end up being their main ally before the end. Kind of a Professor Snape thing. And of course the revolution of the Janets, including Disco Janet. On the podcast Marc Evan Jackson (he plays Shawn) joins writer Josh Siegal, actress Dana Powell (Paula of the Good Place committee), and set decorator Kimberly Wannop.

Chapter 46 - Help Is Other People Season 4, Episode 7 November 7, 2019 And jumping ahead to the end of the experiment. Michael's obsession with stage magic and Jason being constantly impressed by it even in a place where magic literally exists is goofy fun. Loved Simone's conspiracy board. Makes sense that she'd be the one to figure out something wasn't right. I knew there would have to be a "This is the Bad Place" and devious laugh somewhere in here, and they didn't disappoint. Marc is joined on the podcast by Manny Jacinto, writer Dave King, and production assistant Amanda Boisselle.

Chapter 45 - A Chip Driver Mystery Season 4, Episode 6 October 31, 2019 I liked all the bits with Michael talking to Bad Janet in the void. But the more I watch it the less I like this episode overall. Brent is just so unlikable, and really John and Simone aren't that much better. I guess that's kind of the point of them, but it's a jarring contrast to the rest of the show. And it's kind of weird to see Chidi punch someone. I guess the whole think was needed to set up Bad Janet and the manifesto, but I think it could have been done better. "Simone was very mean to me. Maybe even a little racist." Maximum Brent. Podcast has Marc talking with Ben Koldyke (Brent), writer Lizzy Pace, and director Steve Day

Chapter 44 - Employee of the Bearimy Season 4, Episode 5 October 24, 2019 Opening with Vicky, Janet and Shawn (and a Michael suit) was fun. "It's actually feels more like torture when you discuss your acting process." Michael and Jason on the rescue mission is great. Jason getting his memories back, with the only thing that sticks being him tossing a Molotov cocktail in the Bad Place. Crashing Demon Con and the whole convoluted thing of Michael pretending to be Vicky playing Michael, Jason pretending to be Glenn playing Jason. The storyline back in the neighbourhood didn't work as well, although I liked several of the scenes, including Derek rebooting himself, and Tahani's awkward closing of the curtains. In a lot of ways it really doesn't feel like they know what to do with Tahani in the big picture this season, so I hope she gets something big in the final few episodes. Podcast for the week is Marc talking with Jameela Jamil and writer Joe Mande.

Chapter 43 - Tinker, Tailor, Demon, Spy Season 4, Episode 4 October 17, 2019 Focus returns squarely onto Team Cockroach for this episode, which pays off a lot of the preceding stuff in the season. Really does keep you guessing who's on the level, in the best tradition of spy stories that they took the title from. I like that Eleanor ends up going to Chidi for help out of her dilemma, even without his memory. And Jason gets to solve the problem and be the hero of the day. Podcast for this one is Marc talking with Josh Siegal (Glenn), Tom Zawacki from the props department, and writer Cord Jefferson.

Chapter 42 - Chillaxing Season 4, Episode 3 October 10, 2019 Man, relaxed Chidi is something to see. Seems almost a shame to foist Jason on him. It's interesting re-watching this and realizing that "Janet" is sabotaging Tahani's attempts to get through to John. Pretty low key episode overall, with a cliffhanger ending of a mysterious figure approaching the neighbourhood. I missed it, but someone else pointed out that there was a starbucks coffee cup in the middle of the desert by the train tracks, a nod to one of the GAME OF THRONES goofs from last year. For the podcast we have Marc (Shawn) talking with Brandon Scott Jones (John) and Anya Adams (director).

Chapter 41 - A Girl from Arizona Part 2 Season 4, Episode 2 October 3, 2019 This one always feels a bit oddly paced. I'm pretty sure it was intended to be a double length season opener like they had in previous years, and split in two for some reason. I liked the return of the chaos sequence, with a Brent flavour. And Brent's conclusion that he belongs in the Best Place is very on brand. Janet did feel off in this episode, but now we know why. Chidi getting a happy stomach ache at the information that he and Simone are soulmates is pretty harsh when you think back on what he said on their farewell date. A heavy backstage look on the podcast this time as Marc Evan Jackson talks with costume supervisor Alexis Jacks, editor Matt Freund and writers’ assistant Dana Sayles.

Chapter 40 - A Girl from Arizona Part 1 Season 4, Episode 1 September 26, 2019 And back for the final season. I wasn't as happy with the first half of this season on first viewing, although every episode had some great stuff. It's just hard to get into too much of a focus on the new characters when you want more of the old ones. I like it a lot more in retrospect and rewatching, as you can see what they're laying the track for. I liked the contrast of the pep talks that Michael and Shawn gave to their people. And of course the "Shup up, Glenn" which would come back to haunt Shawn. I know it's intentional, but Brent is hard to take on any level. I did like Simone assuming it was all a dying delusion and acting accordingly. We don't see too much of John in this one, but I generally like how his story went. The revelation about Linda was pretty sudden and funny the first time around, and of course now we know a lot more was going on than we saw. Marc Evan Jackson is joined on the podcast by D’Arcy Carden, Kirby Howell-Baptiste (Simone) and writer Andrew Law.

Chapter 39 - Pandemonium Season 3, Episode 13 January 24, 2019 This is a beautiful but heartbreaking way to end a season. Michael's breakdown and Eleanor's quick thinking with her lies was fun. Especially when she realizes that having Janet be the architect might have made more sense. Gee, I wonder how someone could make it seem that Tahani was shallow, jealous and "prone to fits of melodrama"? Eleanor and Chidi's farewell still chokes me up every time, even a year and over a dozen viewings later. I'm glad it's followed up by Eleanor and Janet's long talk, which ends the season on a hopeful note. And for the season finale we have the usual appearance by show creator and episode director Michael Schur joining Marc Evan Jackson, this time bringing along Ted Danson (he played Becker). Lots of talk about specific influences on scenes in this episode, what the various writers and actors bring to it, and also some of the inside jokes you might have missed.

Chapter 38 - Chidi Sees the Time-Knife Season 3, Episode 12 January 17, 2019 Another one of those jam-packed quick moving episodes where you wonder how it all fits in under 22 minutes. Loved Jason and Eleanor's high-five on the IHOP slam. Can't wait for a compilation of all the high-fives on the show after the finale. So much weird stuff in this one, a lot of it enhanced by listening to the podcast and some of the other on-line extras, like the footage of Ted Danson practicing his "backpack kid" dance, or the niednagel, or the significance of the Entourage movie as Shawn's torture of choice for William Shakespeare. Good to see Mindy again, and newly evolved but still deeply broken Derek. Michael and Janet rebuilding their neighbourhood is touching. Vicky impersonating Michael is great, especially knowing where that storyline ends up. For the podcast, Jason Mantzoukas (he plays Derek) takes over to talk with writer Joe Mande, digital effects supervisor David Niednagel, and actor Marc Evan Jackson (he plays Shawn). It constantly threatens to go off the rails, as you'd expect if you're familiar with Mantzoukas podcasts, but is a lot of fun with a lot of details about writing, filming and special effects on this episode.

Chapter 37 - The Book of Dougs Season 3, Episode 11 January 10, 2019 So, a bit of a bridging episode to the next phase of the show. Also the only episode set in part of the real Good Place and the first actual Good Place inhabitants we see (except, I guess, the woman in Mindy's welcome video). Gwendolyn's relentlessly cheery and trusting nature is a bit ridiculous, but funny. The Good Place committee members are incredibly annoying as you realize that they're going to be completely useless in actually getting anything done. I liked the Chidi and Eleanor plotline the most. There were a few funny bits in Tahani trying to figure out what to do with the Janet/Jason situation she finds herself in the middle of, constantly making things worse. For the podcast Marc interviews actor William Jackson Harper, Nicole Byer (Gwendolyn), and associate producer Matt Quezada,

Chapter 36 - Janet(s) Season 3, Episode 10 December 6, 2018 Three weeks and mere microseconds later, we see Janet's void for the first time. Just an amazing episode, maybe the only serious contender so far for knocking "Michael's Gambit" out of the top spot for series best. It's not only a testament to D'Arcy Carden's skill as an actor that she's able to play all the characters, but it really highlights how well the original actors and the writing staff have realized the characters over three years that she's able to pick up on all the little ticks and expressions. "You're not Jason-Janet, you're Eleanor-Janet pretending to be Jason-Janet. That's so wrong and so confusing". That might be the master stroke of the episode, especially as it fits in so well with the series running gag of impersonators. While it's overshadowed a bit by the virtuoso display of TV making in the void, the accounting department scenes are also really good, especially a few of the Janet/Michael scenes. And of course "Holy forking shirtballs, we're in the Good Place" leading into the hiatus. Podcast this time is Marc talking with, no surprise, D’Arcy Carden (she plays Janet. And Chidi and Eleanor and Tahani and Jason. And Bad Janet and Neutral Janet and Disco Janet) with writers Josh Siegal and Dylan Morgan. Lots about that specific challenges involved in making this episode.

Chapter 35 - Don't Let the Good Life Pass You By Season 3, Episode 9 November 15, 2018 Loved the LOST tribute opening of this episode. And Michael McKean was a perfect choice for playing Doug Forcett. Very fun episode that plays off the philosophy and romantic aspects of the series with the characters split in the first half, and then brings them all together to unexpectedly turn it into an action movie in the second half. I think that Janet fight scene might be the most I ever re-watched a scene of a TV show in the week after it aired. There are a lot of clever touches and jokes that I didn't get the first time around. Loved Jason whipping out a Molotov cocktail when the demons show up, and Chidi's "how did you make that so fast" reaction. And into the void, and for the original showing a long three weeks until the next episode thanks to holidays and football. Thankfully future generations won't have to deal with that. Packed demon-heavy podcast this time with Marc (he plays Shawn) talking with Tiya Sircar (Vicky) and Bambadjan Bamba (Bambadjan) plus casting director Ben Harris and a call-in from stunt coordinator Jeff Imada. A whole lot about the fight scene in particular this time, which was a real change of pace for most of the cast.

Chapter 34 - The Worst Possible Use of Free Will Season 3, Episode 8 November 8, 2018 Bit of a change of pace episode. The opening gag of Eleanor's first hit of afterlife memories is a bit of a Looney Tunes gag that I'm not sure completely works on the show, but I did laugh at. Especially how Eleanor's head was still smoking after coming back from the title screen. It was pretty nice to see the old neighbourhood again after so long away. There's a particular brand of visual wackiness that setting allows for that had been missing. I still wonder sometimes if Eleanor's theory of mega demons and tarantula squids will be the ending, and how I'd feel about that if it is... Podcast is Marc Evan Jackson talking with writer Jen Statsky and animal trainer Debbie Pearl. Very fun episode, as Marc seems very interested in the whole animal wrangling world.

Chapter 33 - A Fractured Inheritance Season 3, Episode 7 November 1, 2018 It's good of them to mix up the groups in these episodes where they split up geographically, getting to work on some of the relationships in more depth. I have to admit I'm still not sold on the plot contrivances they had to resort to in order to have a story with Eleanor's mom after previously establishing she was dead in season one, but I guess it was worth it for this episode. And plot contrivances like that are how we got Martin Crane on FRASIER after it was established he was dead on CHEERS... Absolute highlight of the episode is the "ya basic" scene. The Tahani/Kamilah relationship is my favourite of the earthbound relationships on the show, so it was good to see it have some focus and resolution. I don't know if any scene that used the word "wankers" so much was ever more heartwarming. Also loved Chidi's brief interaction with Kamilah, where we also learn Chidi's name means "god exists". I'm still about 10% sure that'll figure into the endgame of the series. Guess we'll know in under a month... Podcast this time (as subtly plugged by Micheal in the last scene) is Marc talking with Andy Daly (Dave), Rebecca Hazlewood (Kamilah) and graphic designer Graham Ratliff.