S03.E05: Mad City: Anything for You

[Trini]

I know they've shown Nygma with Kringle, but has the show shown Oswald interested in anyone (even semi-)romantically?

[Lokiberry]

6 hours ago, Kathemy said:

She told Harvey she had a miscarriage and he told Jim in 'Prisoners.'

The show couldn't "recover" from making Edward and Oswald lovers but it could recover from magically transforming Ivy from a fifteen-year-old to a 28-year-old sexpot just to bring on the boobs? Stop being silly. Even if they'll turn on each other there is no reason that would have to be based on a "lovers' quarrel." That would come from Eddie's ambition outgrowing his role as Ozzie's underling.

Preach it. Aging up Ivy is downright skeevy.

Hey, maybe Babs and Tabs will turn on each other over a lover's quarrel. Would that damage the show?  If not, then why should Ed and Oswald having a messy and blood soaked breakup be a problem? Gordon and Barbara got crazy and bloody and it was awesome. This show is at it's best when it remembers that it's about batshit crazy people doing batshit crazy things.

[Kathemy]

3 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

Oddly enough, that doesn't bother me.  There are two Bruces.  There are other characters who have supernatural abilities that force the viewer to kind of go along with it.  Having a character accelerate in age seems kind of mild in comparison.

The age-up of Ivy is, in fact, a betrayal of the show's concept. Said concept being, showing the development of the iconic characters of the Batman universe. The show decided to skip her entire adolescence at a time where the actress started to be capable to pull some more weight on the show, merely because they wanted the boobs.

Let me direct you to this interview with Bruno Heller in 2014:

Bruno Heller on Gotham’s Villains & Casting Young Actors as Traditionally Sexualized Comic Book Characters

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Child actors Camren Bicondova and Clare Foley play characters meant to become Catwoman and Poison Ivy one day. They’re also characters known for using their sexuality in their crimes. Obviously in Gotham they haven’t gotten to that point in their lives yet but how did Heller approach their characterization? The Mary Sue asked and he said:

By treating it as natural. They won’t – as they grow up, they won’t be as sexualized as the characters are in the comic book. Not to get into the “why they were that way” but it’s a kind of visual thing. You could say the men are also sexualized but you don’t see unpleasant physical specimens of men either. Like Batman is a hunk. And a big part of the unspoken attraction of those characters is that they’re very big, handsome guys. Which is not to say that we’re going to create unsexual versions of those characters, but we will know them as people. We will know them from when they were young. We won’t have to rely on the visual pop of a bustier. That’s the characters. You’ve got a bustier on. There’s more to it than that. There are some villains that can and do precede Batman. There’s others that don’t. And we’ll play with that.”

 

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

Gotham Gets Used To Its New Mayor, And Serves Up Some Questions

Things are happening in the new season. Perhaps too many things?

[Danielg342]

Is there anything that would suggest that it's somehow required for Oswald and Eddie to break up? I know they eventually grow into kingpins in their own right, but there's nothing to suggest that they have to be rivals.

[Kathemy]

Doux Reviews: The story of Bruce and Selina

A little thingie inspired by this episode.

[Dame sans merci]

On 24/10/2016 at 10:49 PM, Danielg342 said:

Is there anything that would suggest that it's somehow required for Oswald and Eddie to break up? I know they eventually grow into kingpins in their own right, but there's nothing to suggest that they have to be rivals.

It's Gotham. Long-term happiness isn't allowed.