RCharter October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 Agree totally about the AIDS and premature births not being a choice. I acquiesced slightly to that poster about AIDS often being the horrible result of choosing to engage in risky behaviors, but nobody chooses that shit. Being born prematurely is rarely the result of maternal decisions, though, and is NEVER the "fault" of the actual victim (the baby itself). My problem with the fat acceptance movement is that they are like those people who say horribly offensive things, then claim it's their right to do so, so everyone else has to tolerate it. Which is not true. Yes, you can do what you want (within legalities), but not without social consequences. *Most* obese people are obese because they choose food over their health and appearance. That is a fact. When you make a choice like that, you have to deal with the social consequences, which is that many people won't want to sit next to you on planes, won't want to date you, etc. Telling people "I get to eat myself to 500 lb, and you HAVE to be attracted to me, or you're an asshole," isn't realistic. Exactly. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/31368-s02e01-whitneys-backs02e02-pasta-la-vista-baby/page/2/#findComment-1568752
Shibori October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 (edited) PCOS can't make you 300+ lbs. It might make you gain 20 pounds over your recommended weight, but that is where it stops. That's an incredibly specific claim- can you provide a reference to the medical reference or study where you found those numbers? I would be very interested to read it. Or alternatively, what about the biochemistry of PCOS leads you to conclude that the hormonal imbalances would produce outcomes limited to such a narrow range? PCOS involves dysregulation of a number of hormones and other biomarkers, and those imbalances can be clinically measured. Every woman with PCOS does not experience the exact same profile of irregular hormone levels, so it doesn't seem surprising that the range of experience with respect to weight gain would be varied as well. Edited October 5, 2015 by Shibori 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/31368-s02e01-whitneys-backs02e02-pasta-la-vista-baby/page/2/#findComment-1570164
notyrmomma October 6, 2015 Share October 6, 2015 Oh the political correctness runs deep here. It's all good. The funny thing is that I have stopped watching this show because I find Whitney and her friends and family insufferable. It just saddens me how normally tolerant people use the obese as a scapegoat for the problems in healthcare (or society in general). 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/31368-s02e01-whitneys-backs02e02-pasta-la-vista-baby/page/2/#findComment-1573316
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