S25:E14 Carlee and Cody

[Elizzikra]

OMG Cody’s father! He was infuriating! I had a feeling that both Cody and his father were abusers to their partners. When Cody was in the car, screaming at Carlee in front of his mother’s house (that he was “gonna beat her ass”) neither his mother nor Carlee batted an eye. I think they were both very accustomed to physical violence from the men in their lives. The only thing that gave me the slightest bit of sympathy for dad was when the interventionist noted that dad was every bit as sick as Cody - maybe sicker.

Sad story.

[farmgal4]

I am so glad you started this thread.  Thank you!  Last night’s episode was so frustrating to me.  I felt so sorry for Carlee’s sister.  I can’t imagine the anger and resentment that she has for Cody’s father and he deserves every bit of it!  I’m a recovering addict since 2012 and if Cody’s dad had been my father, I would be dead right now.  No doubt about.  I have 0 sympathy for the dad, because he would rather push his son into the grave than feel uncomfortable by saying, and meaning, the word NO.  He’s a fk’ing wimp!

[sara416]

Everyone is so damaged. Cody's father is so terrified of losing his son that he can't see that everything he is doing is pushing him closer to actually losing him. Carlee's sister is amazing and I want to give her a hug and a long, all expenses paid vacation where she can stop worrying about everything and everyone. I will not be surprised to see an update that they have died. So sad. 

[Chaos Theory]

These duo interventions must be harder than just a single person intervention.  I always think it’s the folie a deux phenomenon.  Madness of two.   But there is usually a big addict and a little addict.   You usually can help the little addict before the big addict.   But in this case you have a third person in play who in a lot of ways is also an addict.   Until Chuck removes Cody’s safety net he is never going to stop using.    Carlee is at the point where her best chance is actually a substantial jail sentence.  The big issue is that as Chuck is likely bailing her out of jail because he doesn’t want to lose Cody.    

Cody is not going to stop until Chuck and Carlee are gone.  And the sad sad part is they are too far gone to leave on their own.

[satrunrose]

Well that was rough. The only tiny thing I will say for Chuck is that I noticed that he really went off when people started blaming him for the baby's death (which, yes, if Carlee hadn't been using, then the baby wouldn't have been born premature and that would have decreased the chances of SIDS, but it still seemed a little cruel). You could tell from early on (when Cody hadn't turned scary) that they were not in good places to be motivated to change. They talked about getting their daughter back like a plan to clean out the closet, a nice thing to get around to someday, but if not, oh well. 

I wish we had more of the Cody/Amy/Chuck/Logan story. There was a passing reference to a parent drinking when Cody was little, but neither mentioned it later. Are Logan and Cody full siblings? If so, why does Logan call him Chuck and not Dad? Is the stepmother still in the picture? It made perfect sense how things went wrong with Carlee but all we got about Cody (who was clearly the worse off) was a messy divorce and small town isolation. 

[Elizzikra]

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You could tell from early on (when Cody hadn't turned scary) that they were not in good places to be motivated to change. They talked about getting their daughter back like a plan to clean out the closet, a nice thing to get around to someday, but if not, oh well.

As far as the daughter goes, they seem to be able to see her whenever they want without the actual responsibility of parenting. I can see where that's not much motivation for them to change. Right now they get all the fun parts of parenting (or at least, as many of them as they want) and none of the hard work.