Season Two: Goren's Sherlock and Eames' Watson Meet Their Moriarty [Regrettably?]

[GHScorpiosRule]

I couldn't remember what I used for the old forum. 

Season two continued the quality of the first season. And that's ALL due to Rene Balcer!

[Shadow Lass]

Some favorites here: "Dead" with Jay O. Sanders as the hit man, "Bright Boy" with the interaction between Goren and Robbie, "Malignant" (that man whose wife died due to the cancer drug dilution is so heart-rending), "Suite Sorrow" (if just for the Polaroid scene), "See Me," "Probability," with Mark Linn-Baker's great performance, "Cherry Red" if just for the Ferrari scene.

[Xeliou66]

8 minutes ago, Shadow Lass said:

Some favorites here: "Dead" with Jay O. Sanders as the hit man, "Bright Boy" with the interaction between Goren and Robbie, "Malignant" (that man whose wife died due to the cancer drug dilution is so heart-rending), "Suite Sorrow" (if just for the Polaroid scene), "See Me," "Probability," with Mark Linn-Baker's great performance, "Cherry Red" if just for the Ferrari scene.

All of those are great, I also love Tomorrow, with the killer nannies who were trying to make their soap opera become real, Baggage, with the scummy airline workers running their fraud scheme, and Best Defense, with the prosecutor trying to frame his wife for trying to kill him.

I dislike Cold Comfort, Chinoiserie, and the Nicole stuff. Other that this season is awesome. 

[peacheslatour]

37 minutes ago, Xeliou66 said:

All of those are great, I also love Tomorrow, with the killer nannies who were trying to make their soap opera become real, Baggage, with the scummy airline workers running their fraud scheme, and Best Defense, with the prosecutor trying to frame his wife for trying to kill him.

I dislike Cold Comfort, Chinoiserie, and the Nicole stuff. Other that this season is awesome. 

Tomorrow is one of my favorites. Merritt Wever was mesmerizing.

[Shadow Lass]

Watching season 2 today. Already watched "Bright Boy" -- I always bleed for poor Robbie. He was smart, but not a genius, and just wanted to be a normal kid. I hope he had a better life with his uncle and aunt. And of course "the Polaroid episode" (LOL). Watching "See Me" now -- it's possible to be repelled by what Dysart did, while also feeling sorry for him -- and next is "Probability," one of my favorites.

[Xeliou66]

8 minutes ago, Shadow Lass said:

Watching season 2 today. Already watched "Bright Boy" -- I always bleed for poor Robbie. He was smart, but not a genius, and just wanted to be a normal kid. I hope he had a better life with his uncle and aunt. And of course "the Polaroid episode" (LOL). Watching "See Me" now -- it's possible to be repelled by what Dysart did, while also feeling sorry for him -- and next is "Probability," one of my favorites.

Bright Boy is a great episode, that dad was a loon, and he didn’t care at all about Robbie, he was just living through his kid, he was a shit parent as well as a cold blooded killer. I felt bad for Robbie as well, and even though he wouldn’t have to testify against his dad he would still figure out his dad did it because of him and that had to weigh on him. Goren was really good with Robbie and the investigation into the case was really good.

See Me is another favorite from season 2, and I agree about Dysart, he was very disturbed and didn’t really see what he was doing was wrong because of his schizophrenia, but did murder an innocent man and maim numerous people, his actions were terrible but he was one of the more sympathetic perps on CI because he was severely mentally ill and wasn’t just a sociopath like many of the perps. This had another great investigation and gave us a bit of insight into Goren without being soapy - plus Deakins and Carver had large roles, it was nice to see Carver go out “in the field” with the detectives. 

[peacheslatour]

18 hours ago, Shadow Lass said:

Watching season 2 today. Already watched "Bright Boy" -- I always bleed for poor Robbie. He was smart, but not a genius, and just wanted to be a normal kid. I hope he had a better life with his uncle and aunt. And of course "the Polaroid episode" (LOL). Watching "See Me" now -- it's possible to be repelled by what Dysart did, while also feeling sorry for him -- and next is "Probability," one of my favorites.

Did you notice that in Bright Boy and Scared Crazy, both of the vulnerable young men are named Robbie?

[Xeliou66]

28 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Did you notice that in Bright Boy and Scared Crazy, both of the vulnerable young men are named Robbie?

I never thought of that. This franchise has had certain names they’ve liked to use a lot.

[Shadow Lass]

On 2/23/2024 at 12:02 PM, Xeliou66 said:

I never thought of that. This franchise has had certain names they’ve liked to use a lot.

Olivia, Declan (which I'd never heard until I watched L&O shows), Robert, Alexandra, Nicole...

[Xeliou66]

9 minutes ago, Shadow Lass said:

Olivia, Declan (which I'd never heard until I watched L&O shows), Robert, Alexandra, Nicole...

It is very odd that 2 pretty big recurring characters in the franchise have the name Declan - Goren’s mentor turned perp Declan Gage and Lt. Declan Murphy from SVU. I’ve never known anyone with that name outside the L&O franchise. 
Frank is another name they’ve used over and over - it’s a pretty common name but there have been a ton of characters over the years with that name in the franchise. 

[peacheslatour]

Nobilee or however you spell was used in CI and OG.

[Xeliou66]

They are showing 4 episodes a night on Charge again, and Season 2 was on last night and will be on again tonight, so many good episodes from this season.

Malignant is a good episode, interesting how the robbery/murders led to the discovery of Halliwell diluting the medications. Halliwell was scum and the reverend of the church was a greedy dick. I was glad they were able to avoid charging the old guy who helped his wife die, he was very sympathetic.

Tomorrow has a very memorable and gripping plot with the two nannies living out their soap opera fantasy, very interesting, but I don’t think the legal stunt they pulled at the end would hold up in court, getting the awful lawyer assigned to represent Hannah while the Davenport’s got the fancy lawyer to represent Sara even though they weren’t planning on actually helping Sara, I think there would be a very good chance that that whole stunt would blow up in their face, sure they got Hannah’s confession but I don’t know if that would even hold up. So it seemed like they would have a hard time making their case. There was a deleted scene with Skoda in this episode, they should’ve kept it in because it helped shed light on the psyche of the killers and why they were so fixated on the soap opera and on Mr Davenport. 

[peacheslatour]

2 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

They are showing 4 episodes a night on Charge again, and Season 2 was on last night and will be on again tonight, so many good episodes from this season.

Malignant is a good episode, interesting how the robbery/murders led to the discovery of Halliwell diluting the medications. Halliwell was scum and the reverend of the church was a greedy dick. I was glad they were able to avoid charging the old guy who helped his wife die, he was very sympathetic.

Tomorrow has a very memorable and gripping plot with the two nannies living out their soap opera fantasy, very interesting, but I don’t think the legal stunt they pulled at the end would hold up in court, getting the awful lawyer assigned to represent Hannah while the Davenport’s got the fancy lawyer to represent Sara even though they weren’t planning on actually helping Sara, I think there would be a very good chance that that whole stunt would blow up in their face, sure they got Hannah’s confession but I don’t know if that would even hold up. So it seemed like they would have a hard time making their case. There was a deleted scene with Skoda in this episode, they should’ve kept it in because it helped shed light on the psyche of the killers and why they were so fixated on the soap opera and on Mr Davenport. 

Merritt Wever was fabulous though.

[Xeliou66]

43 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Merritt Wever was fabulous though.

Yeah like I said, I really like the plot of Tomorrow and the perps were compelling, but I think the ending left something to be desired, it just didn’t make sense how the Davenport’s would pretend to help Sara, going so far as to hire a lawyer for her and bail her out, just to get them to flip, it seemed very contrived and I doubt it would hold up to scrutiny. It is an interesting case but I’m not sure if they could make a legal case stick but they didn’t go into that. Such a shame Carver wasn’t used more.

[peacheslatour]

1 hour ago, Xeliou66 said:

Yeah like I said, I really like the plot of Tomorrow and the perps were compelling, but I think the ending left something to be desired, it just didn’t make sense how the Davenport’s would pretend to help Sara, going so far as to hire a lawyer for her and bail her out, just to get them to flip, it seemed very contrived and I doubt it would hold up to scrutiny. It is an interesting case but I’m not sure if they could make a legal case stick but they didn’t go into that. Such a shame Carver wasn’t used more.

Oh, no doubt.