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I've been excited about this ever since I heard that the entire live-action cast was returning to do the voices, and I'm even more excited now seeing how much it looks like the books! November 17 is pretty soon, too.

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Preview article at EW: 'Behind the scenes of Scott Pilgrim Takes Off'

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"I wrote this stuff almost 20 years ago," says O'Malley. "I couldn't go back and rewrite it word for word. I kept thinking, I have to tell the story of Scott Pilgrim in a world where the story of Scott Pilgrim has already been told and people know it. I had to kind of splash a new coat of paint on it and f--- around with it."

"It was very important to us to make a show that surpasses any expectations people have," says Grabinski, whose own previous credits include writing and directing the 2021 comedy Happily, starring Joel McHale and Kerry Bishé. "To me, the idea of spending years on a project that is just beat for beat the same thing feels like a waste of time."

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When O'Malley was writing the Scott Pilgrim graphic novels they were set in the then-present day, one with lots of record stores and far fewer cell phones. That era is now historic although O'Malley says viewers should not overly trouble themselves with the show's temporal placement. "I always say it takes place in 'Scott Pilgrim time,'" he explains. "It's become its own mythological realm. The movie did that. Edgar always called it 'the Amelie version of Toronto.' The show is building off that beautiful dreamy version of the city."

Regardless, there is a certain retro quality to the show's take on the profession of Ramona Flowers who, in the books and film delivers packages for Netflix's corporate rival Amazon, but, on the TV show, distributes DVDs for, you've guessed it, Netflix.

 

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And another at LA Times: '‘Scott Pilgrim’ gets another life as an anime with some updates: ‘Ramona especially,’ creators say'

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“We’re trying to get into people’s heads more,” said O’Malley. “Because when I was 25 years old, I didn’t know what these people were feeling necessarily. But I’ve seen a lot more life and I have more context for those characters now.”

And “we’re seeing them more outside of their relationship to [Scott],” added Grabinski. “Ramona especially. It’s been so fun to try to just give you so much more of an emotional connection to her and adding as much shading as we can.”

 

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There'll be a panel for the show at NY Comic Con this weekend:

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Saturday, October 14

5 p.m. Scott Pilgrim Takes Off (Netflix):

Bryan Lee O’Malley, BenDavid Grabinski, and Edgar Wright are bringing back the beloved cult-classic world of Scott Pilgrim with the upcoming series In this new reimagining of the beloved comics, Scott Pilgrim meets the girl of his dreams, Ramona Flowers, but learns he must defeat her seven evil exes in order to date her. Then things get even more complicated. Join Bryan & BenDavid for a Q&A and exclusive sneak peek at the upcoming anime series. (Main Stage)

 

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Went to the NYCC panel today!

We got to see the trailer, and then the opening (which was great), and then a scene from ep 1! 

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A scene with Gideon and Matthew Patel in a big, evil room filled with monitors observing Scott.

They confirm that the Evil Exes will get more to do, plus character interactions that weren't present in any other adaptation. Gideon The Cat is in it! The Katayanagi Twins have their robots again!

They gave everyone tote bags at the end.

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More quotes: 'Showrunners on Why the Netflix Anime Is More Than Just the Greatest Hits'

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“It's still a show about being in your twenties, and being in love, and making mistakes, and growing up, and getting in fights, but with the perspective of being made by adults,” said co-showrunner BenDavid Grabinski. “And when Bryan wrote and drew those books, he was in his twenties and he was just on that adventure of being an adult, but not really being an adult. And now he's lived with the books for 20 years, and the movie, and the video game, and we've both grown up a lot, and the goal is to make something just as fun, and silly, and stupid, and weird, and energetic, and youthful, but hopefully with something new to say.”

 

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“It's so designed for the format,” he explained. “I intentionally was trying to write a lot of things that I could never write in a comic. Music-based scenes just wouldn't work the same way as the comic. I tried to embrace the format. I think Scott Pilgrim has always embraced the format of each of its different adaptations. So that was a big goal here. And yeah, I don't think you could do it, the same way I wouldn't want to do the books word for word as this series, I wouldn't want to do this series word for word as a book.”

 

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This is out now! I'm excited. I'll probably watch this weekend, although I need to finish Orphan Black: Echoes first.

The Guardian gave it 4/5 stars:

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If there was a temptation to take the extra space offered by eight TV episodes to adapt more of the source material, O’Malley and his series co-writer, BenDavid Grabinski, have resisted it. Instead, Scott Pilgrim Takes Off shifts gears and rockets away on a different trajectory. The producers have requested that there be no spoilers on exactly when and how things diverge from the original. But it takes place at a natural break point and is all the better for it.

It is more of a remix than a reboot. The new direction turns the series into a rollicking ensemble piece rather than a hero’s journey (Scott is a sweetheart but can be a little self-involved). 

The Vulture review is spoilery, but here's the takeaway:

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This new anime series, though, operates on a whole new wavelength. It finds O’Malley returning to Scott Pilgrim after more than a decade, this time in collaboration with the writer-director BenDavid Grabinski (Happily) and the critically acclaimed Japanese animation studio Science SARU (Devilman: Crybaby, Inu-Oh, Star Wars: Visions). It also, miraculously, features the return of the movie’s entire cast, but it’s worth noting here that Scott Pilgrim Takes Off isn’t the redux it first seems to be. This adaptation hinges on a major twist that’s worth being fastidious about, so if you’re interested in going into the series cold, just take this with you: It’s very good.

100% Tomatometer so far, although only seven reviews are out right now.

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Scott Pilgrim Takes Off     November 17, 2023     Netflix 

Episodes 1-8   Titles and Descriptions

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S01.E01: Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Life
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Slacker Scott Pilgrim leads a sweet and simple life. Until sparks fly — and ignite total chaos — when he meets the rainbow-haired girl of his dreams.

S01.E02: A League of Their Own
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An eclectic crowd of familiar faces gathers under unusual circumstances. Elsewhere, the League of Evil Exes meets up at a secret lair.

S01.E03: Ramona Rents a Video
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Motivated by a dream, Ramona follows a hunch and confides in a receptive Julie. At a video rental store, a tense run-in with Roxie fuels big feelings.

S01.E04: Whatever
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Ramona heads to a film set to see Lucas, her movie star ex, whose role in a major Canadian motion picture attracts media attention — and the paparazzi.

S01.E05: Lights. Camera. Sparks?!
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A documentary about the Toronto production reveals drama — and steamy romance — behind the scenes. Ramona takes on a daring but demanding gig.

S01.E06: WHODIDIT
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Ramona arrives at Julie's doorstep with more questions and curiosity. A surprise visitor seeks forgiveness from Gideon. Knives taps into new talents.

S01.E07: 2 Scott 2 Pilgrim
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Unfinished business, mind-blowing revelations — and a mix of lovers, friends and exes. What could go wrong?

S01.E08: The World Vs Scott Pilgrim
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Scott, Ramona and their friends face their toughest challenge yet in a knockdown epic showdown that could change everything.

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So correct me if I'm wrong, but in the original story, Scott won that first fight and fought all of Ramona's other exes after that, correct?

This seems to be an alternate history, where Scott loses the first fight, gets kidnapped and Ramona has to talk to (and fight some of) her evil exes to get him back.

I was wondering if there was source material for this, but reading up thread, I guess it's a new original take. Interesting.

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I'm up to episode 5 --

Wow, BOLD move to ...

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... just delete the title character from the narrative.

And now the title makes sense.

So they clearly wanted to do some new things and explore some new/different character interactions. And some of those were great, and I was on board with that ... until episodes 4 & 5 where it just got weird.  Yes, 'ha ha' at the meta jokes, but episode 5 especially felt like a waste of time that hardly moved the story along.

I hope they got that out of their system and the remaining episodes are better.

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I’ve now seen the whole thing and I loved it. Lots of zigs and zags for even people who’ve memorized all the beats from the movie and books. Wonderful and unique style. It’s a testament to how much everyone loved working on the movie that they all came back. 

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5 hours ago, Fukui San said:

Lots of zigs and zags for even people who’ve memorized all the beats from the movie and books.

I mostly didn't mind the 'zigs and zags'; I was already expecting a different perspective/take on the story. I was NOT expecting a  completely different story. And a new story isn't a bad thing; but they could have been up front about that.

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2 hours ago, Trini said:

I mostly didn't mind the 'zigs and zags'; I was already expecting a different perspective/take on the story. I was NOT expecting a  completely different story. And a new story isn't a bad thing; but they could have been up front about that.

I intentionally kept myself in the dark as much as possible. And I loved the divergence despite what felt like wheelspinning in the middle episodes. It was never not fun. 

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Okay, so they managed to pull it together in the end -- not unrelated to the fact that they brought Scott back. I still think that the episodes on the movie set were the low points.

I did like that it ended on a hopeful note for everyone. Lots of fun jokes; and I appreciated the nods to the movie.

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On 11/21/2023 at 4:29 PM, Trini said:

And a new story isn't a bad thing; but they could have been up front about that.

Just to expand on this a bit -- I do see the appeal of (the creator who is more mature now) wanting to do a version of the story where Ramona actually deals with her baggage instead of Scott literally killing everyone. But again, (a) I don't think they needed to hide that; and (b) I think Scott could have been more involved, instead of mostly absent.

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I'd been avoiding interviews and reviews until I had watched the whole thing; so here's an earlier interview with the showrunners where they discuss the changes to the story, and references/easter eggs, among other things:

From our own Primetimer: 'Scott Pilgrim Takes Off Creators on Their 'Fake Pilot' And Inspired Changes to the Franchise'

 

I don't really agree with all their reasonings for taking Scott out of the story, though.

More quotes here:

'Scott Pilgrim Takes Off Creators Break Down What Led Them to That 'Big Swing''

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