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I rewatched the show.
I know that back in the day I was very pro Charles and anti Josh, tbh I think I only was pro Charles because Nico Tortorella and the writing for Josh melted my head.
The second time round I noticed how incredibly unlikable all the guys (except Enzo, who is a catch) on this show are. As are half the women. I really wish the 'no baby' lady-manager KT from the final season, Josh was hooking up with, was introduced sooner and could've stayed around. A strong driven woman to spar with Liza instead of Josh running after her like a puppy.
Diana just got better on rewatch, as did Maggie (shame about her love life going nowhere). It should've had more Diana+Maggie content. Weirdly, I also somewhat like Quinn - in the current climate she does not seem that over the top.
In retrospect most of the book ideas pitched and pictured on the show also make a lot of sense. Of course the timelines are still massively questionable.
Lauren and Redmond should've been roomies.

The final season is still terrible.

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I just started this a few days ago. I think I'm halfway through season 1. 

I'm finding the show pretty good. The basic concept of generational culture clash more or less transcends time, only the details change, so this holds up pretty well. I would have been 26 or 27 when the show started, so it's not lost on me that if this show were made today it would feature my gen (millennial) pretending to be a gen-Zer and navigating the world of TikTok and whatever other genZ stereotypes they want to throw in there. 

I was shocked at first that this wasn't an Amy Sherman-Paladino show, but now several episodes in I realize it's not nearly witty enough to be an ASP project. It definitely had her writing style and overall vibe at first.

The wonderful-as-always Sutton Foster plays Liza as a fish-out-of-water that is still somehow effortlessly cool. I guess that's because Sutton Foster is effortlessly cool. That said, how long can this pretend to be in her 20s act hold up? SF, while beautiful and youthful, doesn't pass for 26 at all, so the whole premise is pretty unrealistic. Will we see Liza in her mid-40s having a "dirty 30" party just because she has to keep up the pretense? Does her daughter ever return from India and wonder wtf is going on? I'm going to keep watching because it's an easy background show, but I hope that in future seasons more characters learn about her con.

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It would have worked better if Liza had said she was 29 at the beginning because she’d still be “in her 20s” but a few years older and that would explain some of her fish out of water actions/reactions.

I do find the young vs “old” stereotypes trope-y and tiresome. I’m waaay older than Liza really is, and I know a lot of what the 20-somethings are talking about. And I’m not tech-stupid either.

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I found this show on Netflix recently and thought it would be a good "light" watch to get my mind off current events. The concept was interesting, and I enjoyed the first couple of seasons. But I've been almost forcing myself to watch the last couple of seasons because it's not really fun anymore. I'm up to Season 6 episode 3 and no longer care about Josh vs. Charles--I used to be Team Charles, but now I don't like either one and wish the show didn't insist on Liza having a happy ending with one of them. I'm also sick of Kelsey's character and behavior--all the unprofessional stuff commenters have talked about in the episode threads. And I've had enough of pussy and dick talk from Kelsey, Lauren, and Maggie (though I otherwise like Maggie's character)--maybe it's because I am far older than the target demographic (I'm 74) and have never wanted to share the details of my sex life with friends, but it also seems that the show's writers use vulgar language to substitute for good writing. 

Another thing that drives me crazy is the wardrobe for Liza and Kelsey. It's not necessarily the specific pieces they wear that bothers me (although many of their outfits are ugly and/or unflattering), but the fact that they apparently have so many clothes that they never wear the same outfit twice. It's especially ridiculous that Liza in her first year or two at the company could afford so many clothes, especially since she had to buy an entire new wardrobe to pose as 26.  I guess we are supposed to handwave that she got everything at thrift shops. 

Last but not least, bringing a baby into the story is boring to me (not that I don't love my own 41-year-old daughter and her baby, who is now 8) and is a lazy way to drag the plot out.

If anyone who has watched Seasons 6 and 7 is still here, I'd love to hear whether you think it's worth watching to the end. I'm ready to give up at this point. 

 

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