Tales Of The Walking Dead - Spoilers And Speculation

[OoohMaggie]

 

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

I can't see any of your videos at work, but if it's the same trailer they showed yesterday during the main show - yeesh. It looked awful and cheap. 

[OoohMaggie]

1 hour ago, Superclam said:

 

I can't see any of your videos at work, but if it's the same trailer they showed yesterday during the main show - yeesh. It looked awful and cheap. 

 

Must be a different one,  it just shows different people from each of ‘The Tales’

Edited April 11, 2022 by OoohMaggie

[Mr. Sparkle]

Yeah, that's the one I saw last night. The one guy looks like they just splashed red paint on his shirt. Still, it was only 16 seconds. Give me six episodes before I judge it for the crap it will definitely be. 

[OoohMaggie]

8 hours ago, Superclam said:

yeesh. It looked awful and cheap. 

After 16 seconds, and there’s me thinking I was harsh on DITW 😂😂

Edited April 11, 2022 by OoohMaggie

[raven]

LOL I'll be watching!

[Mr. Sparkle]

2 hours ago, raven said:

LOL I'll be watching!

If nothing else, we can rag on it on the live thread. 

[OoohMaggie]

How accommodating, there’s nothing worse than getting a hair stuck in your teeth eh boys 🤭

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[Nashville]

21 hours ago, OoohMaggie said:

How accommodating, there’s nothing worse than getting a hair stuck in your teeth eh boys 🤭

Depends upon what…

…nahhh, never mind.  Too easy.

[OoohMaggie]

Six different stories, one Dead world: AMC will tell new Tales of the Walking Dead in the episodic anthology series set within the walker apocalypse of The Walking Dead Universe. On Monday, the network announced the third Walking Dead spinoff series will premiere Sunday, August 14, on AMC 

 

 

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/tales-of-the-walking-dead-premiere-date-first-photos-amc-august-2022/

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[OoohMaggie]

[Mr. Sparkle]

So much potential. So much squandered. 

[Nashville]

6 hours ago, OoohMaggie said:

Six different stories, one Dead world: AMC will tell new Tales of the Walking Dead in the episodic anthology series set within the walker apocalypse of The Walking Dead Universe. On Monday, the network announced the third Walking Dead spinoff series will premiere Sunday, August 14, on AMC 

 

Oh, they got zombies AND vampires?  Cool.

[OoohMaggie]

15 hours ago, Nashville said:

Oh, they got zombies AND vampires?  Cool.

She certainly has ‘something of the night’ about her, could be an interesting twist, if only they had the imagination 😞

[Mr. Sparkle]

The Parker Posey one looks just awful. I'm actually looking forward to the Alpha one, but I'm sure it'll be terrible. 

[nodorothyparker]

I hope the Alpha episode at least explains at what point she started talking like she had a mouth full of marbles while chewing on an old sock.

Tales of the Walking Dead Gets Release Date

Aug. 14, everybody. Two back to back episodes, followed by four more.

Anthony Edwards, Terry Crews, Olivia Munn, a pre-Alpha Samantha Morton. I continue to be fascinated that this long long in the tooth franchise continues to get the talent it does.

[Mr. Sparkle]

Terry Crews. That should be interesting. Or more likely, not. 

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[Mr. Sparkle]

The third one with Alpha was actually pretty good. Best one by far. 

[OoohMaggie]

On 8/21/2022 at 7:51 PM, Superclam said:

The third one with Alpha was actually pretty good. Best one by far. 

It was the best of the two that I’ve seen, although the bar couldn’t have been set any lower, despite the de rigueur moments of silliness, I suppose the episode did at least have a point and a relevance to the main show. Maybe my WD fatigue is having an adverse effect on these cheap assed spin offs. I’m confused as to when the skin mask idea came into effect in the main show, if she knew about this why wasn’t it referred to when she first met Ol Bayda? 

[Mr. Sparkle]

1 hour ago, OoohMaggie said:

I’m confused as to when the skin mask idea came into effect in the main show, if she knew about this why wasn’t it referred to when she first met Ol Bayda? 

They seemed to re-write the Whisperers tale a bit from what we've seen on the main show. For this show, I'm just going on the question "was I entertained?" And I was for Eps 2 & 3, and not so much for 1. This show, and the larger universe really doesn't merit much thought and dissection, IMO. Lord knows the writers aren't giving it much thought. 

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[OoohMaggie]

Putting to one side the sadly unavoidable moments of silliness and implausibility, I thought Amy v Dr Everett was by far the best episode of the four. Admittedly it didn’t have too much of a fight on it’s hands but I could have easily watched a few more episodes based around it.

[OoohMaggie]

Tales of the Walking Dead's Alpha Timeline, Explained

"Let me tell you how I died," says Dee (Samantha Morton) to start Sunday's episode of Tales, revealing the origin of the woman who will become Alpha on The Walking Dead. But Dee's death is a figurative one: the end of Dee is the beginning of Alpha, who doesn't die until Negan (Jeffrey Dean Morgan) takes her decapitated head years later during the Whisperer War. On Tales, Alpha is born when Hera (Anne Beyer) and the Whisperers — survivors who talk in hushed whispers, walk with the dead and wear walker flesh — find Dee moments before she can kill daughter Lydia (Scarlett Blum) to spare her from life in the zombie apocalypse. (Read the "Dee" recap here.)

Sunday's "Dee" episode of the anthology series takes place after The Walking Dead Season 9 episode "Omega," which unmasks Alpha through the scrambled memories of a present-day Lydia (Cassady McClincy). "Omega" flashes back to the earliest days of the apocalypse, when a six-year-old Lydia (also played by Blum) holes up in a Baltimore basement with her unnamed mother (Morton) and her father Frank (Steve Kazee). 

"Omega" reveals Alpha's abuse skewed Lydia's memories of her father, who is an abusive and overbearing husband in one flashback and a loving father in another. ("I had it all mixed up. It was a lie, but the lie wasn't mine," Age 16 Lydia says.) On day 43 of the apocalypse, Frank and Lydia watch as Dee murders a panicking survivor she calls "weak" before shaving her head bald. 

When chaos breaks out and Frank refuses to let Dee leave with Lydia, Dee kills her husband, shushing her daughter as Age 6 Lydia watches. Age 16 Lydia's jumbled memories remember her mother telling her: "Your father was a stupid man. World's over. We're doing what I want now. He was soft. Now he's dead." She remembers Dee, in the Baltimore basement, holding a bloodied Whisperer skin mask: "Put it on. This is how we live."

In "Dee," mother and daughter have lived aboard a riverboat community on the bayou for over a year. After a violent coup by Billy (Nick Basta) forces Dee and Lydia to abandon the boat, Dee discovers they can walk among the dead by using walker guts as camouflage. When Lydia asks what happened to daddy, Dee reminds her: "Baby, your daddy was weak. Don't be like him."

"Dee" only briefly recalls the events of "Omega" from Alpha's point of view: "The world fell apart, and I got stuck in a basement with Lydia's dad, Frank. I'm not sure if I meant to kill him. I'm glad I did."

After failing to save Lydia from this world, Dee plans to commit a murder-suicide. But before she can kill Lydia, a pack of whispering people wearing walker skins steps out of the woods: "We see you. Spare her. Stop her." The alpha Whisperer is Hera, whose flesh later becomes the skin mask worn by Alpha in Seasons 9 and 10 of The Walking Dead. 
"I was keeping myself from my nature," says Alpha. "But that was the end of Dee and the beginning of me."

The events of "Dee" take place before The Walking Dead Season 10 episode "We Are the End of the World," which flashes back to seven years before the Whisperer War and Alpha's rivalry with Carol (Melissa McBride). 

In that episode, Dee and a slightly older Lydia (played by Scarlett's real-life older sister, Havana Blum) are surviving alone when they meet the future Beta (Ryan Hurst). Teaching him the guts trick she learned in "Dee," she anoints him "Big Man" — and then "Mr. B," and then just "B" — taking the name "A" for herself. Sometime after that, Alpha and Beta lead their pack of Whisperers until their deaths: Alpha dies in The Walking Dead Season 10 episode "Walk With Us," and Beta dies in "A Certain Doom," ending the Whisperer War.  

Any discrepancies between "Dee" and "Omega," both written by Tales showrunner and co-creator Channing Powell, can be explained by the older Lydia's muddled memories as an unreliable narrator. 

In a 2019 interview with EW, The Walking Dead's showrunner Angela Kang said of the episode: "It really made sense for us to tell this [Alpha/Lydia] flashback story [in 'Omega'], except it's an unreliable narrator story too, because Lydia is realizing that her own memories about her mother, and her parents, and what it means to be in the world may be scrambled because she's this victim of this very emotionally abusive and physically abusive relationship."
 

Well I hope that’s all perfectly clear for everybody now 😱😱🤕
 

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/tales-of-the-walking-dead-dee-alpha-timeline-explained-when-does-dee-take-place/

Edited August 29, 2022 by OoohMaggie

[Mr. Sparkle]

20 minutes ago, OoohMaggie said:

Any discrepancies between "Dee" and "Omega," both written by Tales showrunner and co-creator Channing Powell, can be explained by the older Lydia's muddled memories as an unreliable narrator. 

Oh, that is rich. 

[OoohMaggie]

22 hours ago, Superclam said:

Oh, that is rich. 

Well done, I didn’t manage to make it that far down 

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[OoohMaggie]

Will we see more of Dee's transformation into Alpha? Will we learn more about Hera? And have we seen the last of the now disfigured Brooke? We whispered those questions and more to Tales of the Walking Dead showrunner Channing Powell.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: You wrote the first Alpha flashback episode on The Walking Dead, so what was it like for you to go back and fill in more of the gaps?

CHANNING POWELL: It was really interesting for me, because I am a mom, and I became a mom working on The Walking Dead. And when you're dealing with this world week in and week out, you can't help but wonder, "What would I do in this situation with my children? How would I navigate this world? What would I do to protect them?"

And so I was approaching it from that perspective of, how can you explore motherhood in this world in a way that's not alienating to viewers who are not mothers, but also resonates with people who do have children or are parents, or have the responsibility of looking after somebody else in this world?

I will admit that I thought of more of a story for Alpha. We thought of a broader mythology beyond just this one episode, because we wanted to hint to what comes before and after. And I just was thinking, "What inspires somebody to become a villain?" And we tried to work backwards in that way.

Alpha is so specific to her world and so entrenched in it, so I wanted to put her in a world that was completely alien to her. I really like fish out of water stories. I really like watching characters have to adapt to a situation that they're not comfortable with or not used to. So we tried to think of, "What would be the oddest place that we could put Alpha that's not in a Whisperers camp?" And we came up with a boat.

What's the time frame in terms of when this whole story happens in relation to the basement stuff before it and meeting Beta after it?

Yeah, it's neatly tucked in there. And then for the larger mythology, should everything work out and we ever film with actors' schedules aligning, we do have her meeting Beta right after this story.

This face slicing scene of Brooke is maybe the most gruesome scene I have ever watched on any Walking Dead show.

Thank you so much.

Were there discussions on how far you could go and how much to show of that?

In my mind and in the world, Brooke's not dead yet. And I just really loved the idea of Brooke being so defined in the non-walker apocalypse world. She's such a presence and she's beautiful and she's smart and she has everything going for her. And she tries to continue that into the walker apocalypse. She tries to make it feel like it's not happening. And I wanted something that would not only shatter her world, but shatter her image of herself. And I thought a huge scar across her beautiful face would make her approach her life in the walker apocalypse a little bit differently after this.

I was going to ask you what happens to her, and you said you think she's still alive dealing with this. Is that something we could maybe see in a season 2 or down the line?

I would honestly love to see that. I have plans for Brooke and I have plans for Alpha. So that would be a dream of mine, should we get a season 2 or beyond.
 

What can you say about this group at the end and this woman Hera who finds Dee and Lydia?

Obviously, that is the origin of the Whisperers story. And they do take Dee and Lydia into their community, which is different actually from the Whisperer camps that Alpha turns the Whisperers into. Their community is very different. Their community is a little bit more human than the way Alpha runs the Whisperers. And Hera is a really compelling, interesting lead in somebody that Dee is very, very intrigued by — not just in terms of her being a leader, but in terms of her being a potential romantic interest.

Is there anything you could say in terms of what ultimately happened to her? We see that head and Alpha's talking to it.

I cannot give away what happens. Obviously, it's The Walking Dead. Tragedy befalls everybody at some point. But whatever happens causes Alpha to turn into the Alpha that you know and love from the show.

https://ew.com/tv/tales-of-the-walking-dead-dee-alpha-whisperers-lydia-brooke/

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[OoohMaggie]

So Davon…………. another budget buster, how much is a scrap van and a JCB hire for the day? All that was lacking were some pitchforks, flaming hand held torches and Shaggy pulling the mask off the kid crying  “Sheriff Johnson!”   Uuuuhhhhh 🙄

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[Mr. Sparkle]

7 hours ago, OoohMaggie said:

So Davon…………. another budget buster, how much is a scrap van and a JCB hire for the day? All that was lacking were some pitchforks, flaming hand held torches and Shaggy pulling the mask off the kid crying  “Sheriff Johnson!”   Uuuuhhhhh 🙄

So pretentious. Like a bad French horror movie. 

[OoohMaggie]

Did anyone else notice the PPP card?  My eyes had already glazed over by that point 🥺

 

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[Mr. Sparkle]

I didn't. I think it's a McGuffin to make us watch and think there's ultimately a point, like with the CRM stuff, and Worlds Beyond in general. 

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