Vivigirl10

Wow - they both (Mandy in particular) seemed to be a huge argument for nature over nurture. I don't feel certain either way if she was involved or not but I know there's no way I would have been able to convict her. I mean come on, zero evidence. Mandy made my blood literally boil. Good Lord, another case of a woman throwing herself AND HER CHILDREN completely in the line of danger all to have a man. She brought this fresh out of prison killer into a home with what appeared to be at the time a pre-teen or young teenage daughter. Unforgiveable. She didn't tell any of the family about his history. And now appears to remain committed to him even after he slaughtered an absolutely amazing relative of hers. I mean, I don't know how you can get any more gross. Good luck looking in the mirror, Mandy.

Sex & The City posed the question best: "Why are there so many incredible single women and no incredible single men"?? It seems to grow even truer as women get older. I can't really begrudge these women for thinking he was a catch. What scared me the most was how Kasi's friends approved of him, liked having him around, and how he just kind of fit in nicely. They weren't blinded by love. I don't think women should not be open to it. So it's so frightening to think you can be fooled and conned and before you know it it's too late. The overly romantic stuff? Yuck. That would have totally the opposite affect on me but again, some women eat that up. Completely agree once John showed his true colors everyone should have run for the hills. Desperate needy women who can't survive without a man? That's on them. Desperate needy women who can't survive without a man and expose their children to these monster? Unforgiveable. Andrea's tennis skirt had me dying 😆

Which girl is in the pumpkin "blouse"? There are two (the other is the younger cutie who always squints) that I can never remember their names. The daughter in the pic has grown to look remarkably like Nurie but much prettier. Nurie is always so pointed and harsh looking to me. This poor thing has such a nice smile, despite what her Mother has done to her eyebrows. Did everyone see that Jill is putting "made by" Ivory Cream Boutique? Is this how she's skirting Etsy's rules? So she's a dress designer for Temu and Target now? Everyone has used the words "performative modesty" and I absolutely love that. It's been said a million times but modest style is actually really popular right now without most of it even being labelled as modest. They could all wear maxi skirts/dresses, puffed and ruffled sleeves....heck, even sailor and peter pan collars have suddenly made a comeback!! But if they did that and didn't instead layer a long sleeve blouse under a strapless gown, how would they ever be identified as the supremely Godly beings that they are??!!

I recommend it as well. But it was soooo heartbreaking and soooo infuriating!!! Once again, these women who support these monsters and turn a blind eye are every bit as guilty as the monsters themselves.

I think this may have been the only episode that I liked Morgan. I hate characters that are written where every single thing they say is sarcastic or like their own little comedy routine. There's nothing realistic about her. Why can't she just communicate like a normal human. Plus....she's mean.

Believe me, I'm all for Ellen calling Jill out. But she's doing it passively-aggressively and via social media. Isn't that just the same ick, different name? Anyone associated with this circus is just gross. I don't have hope for any of them.

I'm adding "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives" here because apparently, most of these ladies are certainly not Mormon. The whole thing was just a complete train wreck and I'm left with more questions than answers. I really can't believe there's not a thread for it! I'm dying to hear other people's reactions.

And even then, there's always still a screw missing 😆

Tamra had a brow lift and CO2 laser - way different than a chemical peel. My aunt had the laser with her facelift and she said recovery from the laser was the most frightening and painful part of the whole thing. Tamra looks literally like a walking monster in her posts. I'm not really sure after all the work she's had done that this will make that much of a difference? Well, at least for now her ugly outsides match her ugly insides.

Hannah Berner was on Dave Portnoy's podcast where she basically said that she got fired for doing an ad for Truly (the problem being that Truly is a competitor of Lover Boy). I don't think that she specifically said that Kyle and Amanda called for her to be fired, or had that kind of weight, but that they actively froze her out because of it. It's been so long since I've watched her last season but didn't things go south and get a bid weird around her "relationship" with Luke? I thought she kind of went off the rails and became totally unlikeable. I tried to watch her Netflix special and I lasted about 10 minutes. She didn't make me crack a smile, let alone laugh. And yet every audience shot showed everyone literally throwing themselves on the floor, rolling around in hysterics. Yeah, it certainly wasn't that. Did anyone ever think of her as funny on Summer House? This comedienne thing has come out of left field.

Aghhhh......Shannon's conversation with her daughter's in the living room so reminds me of my own dear Mother. After her devastating DUI, my sisters and I gathered around her, all as peers, and spouted off the greatest hits: "everything happens for a reason" and "learn from this and move on". OMG, I was dying. This is so far from my reality I don't even know how to process it. And I'm so happy about that. Shannon's very lucky her daughter's appear to have turned out well despite her. The irony is not lost that no one appears to be wearing the same face with the exception of Heather! Who could use a little nip and tuck to the neck if ya know what I'm saying. The weird thing about their faces though is sometimes they look really good and other times they look reallllyyyy bad. I think it totally depends on the lighting, angle and make-up. Doctor, heal thyself! It's like he's completely worked on everything BUT his nose! Everything else has been whittled down but the nose remains! I'm sorry but "Jesus Jugs" will never not make me laugh!!!

Can you shout this louder for the people in the back? You just summarized this so perfectly. None of the girls owe Lindsay one darn bit of kindness, respect, friendship, whatever it is. This woman was a complete bully/mean girl with supporting minions. Once she lost her power (which has been incredible to watch), it's game on. I don't expect anyone to be purposefully mean to her, but I certainly wouldn't trust her or go out of my way to be nice to her. Of course, they are forced to for the sake of the show. I thought they were all incredibly gracious to her by the end of last season. Wayyyyy more than she deserved.

Lindsay's hiding the guy's identity because he plays absolutely no part in this for her. She's been hell bent to have a baby and it really didn't matter to her who the sperm donor was. I cannot believe she's going to come back to the show and film while pregnant. What in the world is she going to contribute? And none of these people, minus Gabby, care. Having a pregnant woman around a summer house is just not realistic and certainly not a contributor to summer fun. Is she going to holler out of an upstairs window every time a party rages on after-hours and say she needs her pregnancy sleep? Stupid beyond measure. When we start focusing on pregnancies and children on a show about single people sharing a summer house, the show has officially jumped the shark. And I'd say the same if it was any of the other ladies. I absolutely weep for this child.

I really enjoyed the series. I adored Charly! She appeared to be an amazing dancer (didn't someone say, "is this another Clare?" about her?) but also just very mature, likeable and down to earth. So I'm still unclear, what was the reason they cut her?? What did I miss? I can see why people had a hard time stomaching Reese. But what doesn't jive is that she seemed to be completely accepted and liked by the other girls. That tells me there's probably more to who she is and she is probably just a genuinely happy, sweet person. The fiance situation though.....hmmmmm. Poor guy was certainly not facially gifted and didn't seem to have much going on in the way of a career path. But I'm sure he was nice enough? I hate to see her close down her options before she's really gotten out in the world, and certainly with the opportunity she has ahead of her to meet a lot of new people. But I think like she said, she wasn't interested in dating. She wanted her first boyfriend to be "the one". By the end, he almost seemed to have become like a fan too, which had a weird feeling to it. The Victoria issue is a hard one to dissect. I understood early on some of the negativity directed at her but I was one who was never bothered by her. I'm just feeling there has to be a TON more to this story. If she is "the most popular girl" in every other facet of her life, what has happened within the squad? There were so many rumors of her being a tattle-tale and the issue with the cell phone case early on. There has to be a reason things are this way. I fear she and Tina are going to turn into Grey Gardens. She may keep Victoria under her thumb for life. From the old footage right up to today, Tina looks like one of those women who has to be the center of attention anywhere she goes. Exhausting. Ugh - I had wiped Kat from my brain. I had to stop watching during her season because I could not tolerate her. Not sure why they chose to focus on her out of all of the impactful dancers there are to choose from.

Parker, AZ: yes, he was a "welder for a utility company" and she was "in finance". Either she's pulling in big bucks or they have an alternative source. Millions to spend on a house and it sounded like an unlimited budget for boats (multiple) and toys! The one thing I will say about them is that other than the screens on the house they chose, they really didn't seem to complain about much? They seemed to have no discernable style. They also seemed to really like each other, which we can't say about too many couples on this show! I don't know, Parker looked post-apocalyptical to me. I just couldn't wrap my head around it for some reason! But it didn't appeal to me at all!