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Can Caroline PLEASE give Ivy the memo that she is happily slobbering Ridge down, so she can shut up!

I actually meant debuted Brown Penny on the soap. I hate poetry and that did not help. However, I have always hated TK characters--his Ridge is a character that I hate least (not saying much, but still).

Look at least he dropped the poems. Imagine hearing those for what....almost 20 years? I have no idea when he debuted Brown Penny.

I swear, today it appeared that Jacob Young turned the page in the script and for the first time. I believe he was sincere in his words and actually showed that he wants to be with Maya. It was a pleasure to see honestly and I am glad. Let this story move along. Ridge and Caroline...they are who puzzle me. Today, it really seemed like it was like 'whew...glad I don't have to worry about that marriage anymore, now we can be together without all of the alleged guilt'. Just weird all around about them today. The gun scene was interesting. And the speculation about Maya and

Brothers (real or adopted or whatever they are) are ALWAYS a bad choice.

They made Rick's actions so over the top that Caroline and Ridge's kissing, lying and betraying has been put to the back burner (along with Liam, Wyatt and Quinn). It's positively annoying at this point. Oh and slayer2...your post is amazing balls! The Greek Chorus were convening all on their own, but is there a reason why Caroline called them over to the mansion to talk about the portrait instead of just leaving altogether?

Tell the truth. LOL!

Wait....is this show trying to convince that Ridge really wants Caroline? Because I don't believe that either nor do I believe that I love you that Rick gave Maya today. Either way, I hope some movement to come. I want everyone and their lawyer Carter to stop talking about Rick taking Caroline back, he has done EVERYTHING possible to make it clear he doesn't WANT her back--whether it be using Maya, sticking up portraits, humiliating her and basically telling everyone He.Don't.Want.Her. So yeah...we need to move on from that, hopefully with a divorce. Ridge and Caroline and that kiss? Well they were doing that BEFORE Rick started acting like an ass, so this was no different. I can say that Thorsten Kaye is finally playing a character I don't hate with a heat of a thousand suns, but he still irks my world in every which way...whether he's playing Patrick, Ian, Zach or Ridge. Honestly, I don't give a fig about Caroline and I do like Maya...but both of them need to walk away from Ridge and Rick because at this point, it all seems to be a game. I guess the true test with Caroline and Ridge will be when Brooke comes sashaying herself back into town. I also for the life of me can't figure out how long this thing with Rick and Maya will go on the way it is now..oh wait...it will probably go on until Rick comes clean and Maya leaves and then finds out she's pregnant.

Caroline dropped the line or the hook while she was married and Rick wasn't putting her through the wringer and it drove Rick away.

Well Rick is only using Maya to get back at Caroline (that's what's been said over and over)...and it's ONLY Rick saying it. The whole damn cast over the past two weeks have been talking about how much of a loss Caroline would be for him. Hell, Eric even held the job over his head if he didn't stay married to her. And what cracks me up is allllll of this stemmed from her lying and cheating.

I feel like this to a degree, but more so because everyone acts like Maya is some ogre and Caroline is the pwetty Princess.

I have to wonder about the toning down of Maya suddenly. It's like they decided overnight to go to the old Maya. Whatever, I was getting positively sick of the Maya is a Goldigger storyline. Either they are going to have Rick start to fall for her again or have him jump in between Maya and Caroline until the end of time because I am over his torn look at the end of every.single.conversation with everyone and their lawyer Carter.

They better make a move and fast, my patience is dwindling.

Andy may have addressed it at the beginning, but a caller did call up and talk about that comment and how it was inappropriate. It was the middle of the show. That's how I know Nene even said it because I missed the actual first airing of Real Housewives tonight.

Someone called into Andy's show and mentioned that comment and Andy basically had no reaction. Andy covers Nene's behind all the time. I'm sick of it and he lets her get away with everything.

I know who Sheila Carter is and Ivy is nothing like her, so that is why I think it was actually a slang term. Sheila actually started out on Y&R faking pregnancies and stealing babies.

Hakeem is the special one...that's all I got.

LOL...yeah, I figured that after I thought about it. However, is she really getting smarter? What was she dumb as a box of rocks before she became obsessed with Rick, Maya and Caroline?

Ivy is becoming a smarter and smarter Shelia who?

I am pretty sure

The matriarch line drives me crazy and I have no idea whhhyyyyyyyyy they insist on having her repeat it, but I ignore it. I did like the way they played those scenes between Maya and Caroline today. Maya was a smooth player there admitting that Caroline was right about a couple of things.

Watching the flashbacks...Caroline was a nasty little thing (and not sure that she's still not). Yeah...lipstick on a pig.

I saw that and that is EXACTLY why every single Spencer can kick rocks. Freaking bullies. Even if

Maybe they received feedback on the way they flipped the script with Maya's character and decided to change course.

What did Maya do to Pam? Nothing. Rick put the picture up and insists that it stays up, Maya told him he could take it down and seems a little weirded out about it.