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  1. 27 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

    Seems to me the frustration comes from fans who simply don't want Meredith and DeLuca together so they complain if DeLuca so much as blinks wrong. 

    Probably, lol.

    For me it just feels like a missed opportunity for a better moment. 

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  2. I don’t think it’s bad for deluca to talk to Zola about Derek. It seems like that’s what she needed in the moment and Deluca tried to step up for her. 
     

    The frustration comes from krista taking what would be a great moment if it was literally any one of the dozen characters on the show who did know Derek and making it a genuine emotional moment for the characters and the audience and instead choosing this moment to try and push merluca. 

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  3. 6 hours ago, dmc said:

    They’re trying to make koracik bad to redeem Owen. There is no redeeming Owen for me 

    On a lesser scale they are doing the same to bailey. Making her look as bad as possible to make Meredith look good. But this tactic has been done over and over for years on this show alone. It’s annoying  and it’s obvious.

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  4. 1 hour ago, maddie965 said:

    We will have to agree to disagree then. Sure, the show treated Mark as the father sometimes, which was infuriating. He was not. The child was Callie and Arizona's. Callie and Mark were never going to raise the kid together. He would be like an uncle, not a father. Anyway, that's how I see it. The fact that he actually had sex with Callie and is friends with her is irrelevant. The couple is still Arizona and Callie, and the child is theirs.

    Whoa, there’s literally a scene where where Callie tells mark he can be the fun uncle and he flat out says he’s not the uncle he’s the father. He was always intended as an involved father to Sofia. Then when Arizona and Callie got back together they all agreed to be equal parents to Sofia, but he intended to take a very active part in raising Sofia. She was never just Callie and Arizona’s.

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  5. 2 hours ago, taanja said:

    I guess chemistry is subjective? Because I think they are cute together.

    Not anything like Patrick and Ellen had (they were sizzling hot together) mind you-- but they come across to me as two people having fun together.

    I don't necessarily have to have couples be "in love" --- just hanging out and having sex is also fun. Especially when you are an older woman with a younger man.

    I agree, chemistry is totally subjective and the writing and acting of it all definitely affects it. 
     

    like I don’t ship Meredith and Deluca but I can admit they have a fun easy vibe. Who knows what krista and co have in mind cause I get the vibe of “we like each other but it’s not that serious” but I see the seeds of “serious” all over the place. 
     

    also I hate that this show changed deluca to fit him better with Meredith. It doesn’t come off confident like Derek, it comes off smug as hell and it’s annoying when his only accomplishment is sleeping with Meredith grey. 
     

    merder on the other hand, I didn’t ship them either but from moment one I felt their chemistry and definitely “GOT” why they were so popular and how this show just skyrocketed off their relationship. It was true lightening in a bottle. 

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  6. Just watched this a second time and I think I’m more accepting of woodys journey and end then I was the first time. 

    I walked away the first time seeing this being really stuck on a toys “consciousness”...these are toys and I easily accepted a toys “purpose” and woodys dedication to it made since.

    In “Toy Story 3” (which I consider to be a more satisfactory ending) I loved how woodys loyalties kind of sepersted from his “kid” to Buzz, Jessie, and the rest. Considering that development it’s not a stretch to get to the events of “Toy Story 4” but that uneasiness really throws me existentially cause like, what the hell are these things if they are developing a since of self outside of their purpose? Woody is putting himself first! It’s still mind boggling to me, lol. 
     

    The only thing I wasn’t a fan of is how dumbed down buzz was. The same toy that didn’t have to press his buttons to go after woody in toy story 2 couldn’t make a decision on his own all of a sudden? His entire make up is “hero”. 
     

    The OG toys And Jessie being more background was sad but I get why. The last scene between all of them and woody broke my heart. While saying goodbye to Andy was sad in 3, I liked how woody and the gang chose each other, and saying goodbye to that was hard. 
     

    Especially considering woody and buzz. That last line between the two of them always brings me to tears. I like the movie a lot but I still stand by it wasn’t needed. 

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  7. 21 minutes ago, Inerttt said:

    Richard’s entitlement this episode! Yes, how dare Bailey and the other one fire you for getting yourself caught up in Meredith dumb insurance fraud. 

    I wanted to throw something at him! Like dude, you copped to committing a crime and the person you taught to do the right thing did the right thing and fired your ass! 

    i hurled a big FU at him when he went on about how bailey didn’t apologize to him. You’ve got to be kidding me!

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  8. Saw it today and it held up to the quality standards the previous films held. I feel like Woody has been heading this direction all this time, so even if it was never the intent some 20 years ago, it all gelled really well. 

    I loved that the gags were genuinely funny. I was laughing out loud at forky and I didn’t think I’d like that character at all. At first glance it felt too “Olaf” for me but I liked how he was important as a catalyst but wasn’t over used and didn’t keep the gag going too long. 

    I legit cried the last 20 mins of it. It got so bad by the end I was making gurgling noises breathing in, you know what I’m talking about, lol. It was ugly! Lol. But damn, that last line between Buzz and Woody BROKE ME!!! 

    I enjoyed this a lot and so did my kids. 

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  9. I get how what Jackson said to her would be taken as condescension but I really don’t think it was meant that way. Maggie’s CRUTCH for why she feels stunted, why she never developed emotionally, why she runs, is cause she’s never experienced things cause she was bullied/younger than her peers/a genius. She falls on this all the time.

    jackson discovered something he loved. He wants to share this new thing with her and maybe help her experience something new. But no, she doesn’t actually want to do anything outside her comfort zone. She wants to forever use it as why you should feel sorry for her and give her allowances for when she’s a shitty partner or when he constantly needs a third party to help steer her in her role as Jackson’s girlfriend. 

    Last season I didn’t see why Jackson really fell for her and this season I don’t understand what Maggie sees in Jackson. Besides dick honestly. She claims he made her feel safe when her mother died but it’s such a retcon, he was there for her but made her feel safe? Whatever. That’s not what was shown. 

    She always looks like Jackson is someone she has to put forth effort in and she would rather not but she feels she has to. I just don’t get it and Debbie Allen’s TV guide interview further proves how out of freaking touch this show is from its audience. 

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  10. Jackson didn’t deserve what Maggie spewed at him. All this finale showed me was Maggie isn’t equipped to be with anyone much less Jackson. Doing something he likes to do and you may not is not a sign he wants to change you or that he doesn’t like you. He wants to share something he loves with you, but she can’t handle thinking of someone else separate of her own wants. And camping isn’t a dealbreak. 

    Saying you’re a privileged rich boy whose never experienced consequences should be though. I can’t believe she actually said that to someone whose been through what he has.  she can’t even fathom what he’s been through and she wouldn’t have dealt with it with a fifth of the resilience that he did. 

    Jackson just didn’t deserve that at all! And japril was the toxic one? Give me a break! For all their faults April’s always believed in him and took up for him. She did it to Richard and had to be the first of many to give Jackson a chance cause he’s worth it. Japrils issues were external. Jaggies issues have roots! She doesn’t respect him. She thinks very little of him and definitely think she’s better than him all around. 

    This behavior isn’t new for Maggie at all but it’s been a while where her own entitlement and bratty behavior was this blatant. 

    Everything rlse, Owen and teddy, blah. This ending for them was so sloppy and not put together well over the season. Owens been such a toxic individual but he’s magically cured. Teddy’s arrival and pregnancy have barely been told from her perspective. 

    Amelia is bi-curious...okay then. 

    Deluca is too much with the gestures. Mer did the right thing going there to confess, but the I love you too...meh. 

    Bailey actually firing Webber, Meredith, and Alex was a truly surprising moment but it’s hard to feel like anything will really stick. But it’s nice for now that they aren’t being bailed out. Save that for the premiere, lol. 

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  11. 9 minutes ago, sarkygal said:

    I realized a long time ago that Shonda and her entire writing team are emotionally stuck at 13 and these 2 relationship dynamics illustrate that. 

    What ambitious 30-something throws his career away for a woman he’s only dated for a couple of months to “prove” his love?

    What late 40s professional with 3 kids would go sleep over with her best friend’s wife to find out what’s wrong with her and then be one to tell the husband. If I have to tell your husband what’s wrong with you, you’re not mature enough to be married. 

    Its not cute or quirky. I pretty much despise all these characters at this point. 

    This post brings up an interesting dynamic between certain age groups of fans and this show. It’s gone on so long but refused to grow up with the fans that have watched from the beginning. Because there are a lot of viewers who loved what Deluca did and have all kind of heart emojis to express themselves (nothing against emojis, love them myself), and it makes me question the age groups of fans and the similarities and differences in what we are enjoying from greys anatomy.

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  12. 1 hour ago, Laurie4H said:

    It’s so cliche when women on TV shows seem totally into the man and then when he profess his love, the woman freaks out.  From my experience of my own and friends and family....if the man professes his love....it’s usually a happy and exciting time.  It’s hard to find a real connection and showing women freaking out or playing hard to get is not that common (unless you really have no interest or attraction to the person).  Yes we know Meredith can have any man she wants....but still.

    The feds coming and taking the DR away was just a political statement.

    Again I hate Amelia’s way of talking.  Where she over enunciated certain words in a cutesy sarcastic tone.  Am I the only one who notices that?  

    And some of the monologues.  

    “I’m not adventurous AND I’ve never bungee jumped or skydived, AND I’ve never been close to a wild animal but I want to experience adventures with you AND I want to be adventurous AND you are confusing AND captivating AND chaotic and I don’t do confusing or chaotic.   I’m unconfusing and unchaotic but I want to experience confusing AND chaotic AND be captivated by you.  

    Totally made up monologue but you get  the idea.  

    You’re not the only one. It’s bugged me from her PP days and got worse on greys.

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  13. 5 hours ago, Chas411 said:

    Yes to this. On rewatch I’ve no idea why I ever shipped her with Alex. She was AWFUL to him. Always thought she was better than him. She was a bully to Callie. Ugh. She was 100 percent the worst. 

    People may have their issues with Jo but at least for the most part she does actually like Alex and consider him her equal. 

    Let’s keep things in context though, back then Alex was horrible. He tries to shame her for being a lingerie model and he cheats on her with a nurse on top of the time he was verbally an ass to her. 

    Alex grew but it’s not like he didn’t deserve some of the treatment he got back then. 

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  14. 1 hour ago, GSMHvisitor said:

    This was not good. Too much stuff that doesn't interest me at all. I skipped all the scenes with the firefighter patient. Same with Contacts and HAOG.

    So DeLuca told Meredith he loves her? Does that mean they can break up now? Or does Meredith need time to process and figure out her feelings and then she's gonna say it back? Ugh God I hope not. I want both of those characters to be free of this stupid story.

    I don't know what's going on but Justin's acting in that scene in Bailey's office was really bad. Is it maybe the lame material he's given that makes Justin not care? I love Alex/Justin, but this was not good.

    I'm getting tired of this Jo story. It's been going on for weeks and we still have zero insight in her thoughts and feelings. If this were a book it could work, but since this is a TV show we need words and dialogues to understand a character. But Jo doesn't talk and the whole thing is just getting old. Camilla's acting isn't always the greatest, so that doesn't help.

    I liked Koracik until they paired him up with Teddy. Now I just want both of them to leave.

    Last but not least, the biggest WTF moment to me was about Owen. Did they seriously build a cliffhanger around the question who Owen will confess his love to? Amelia or Teddy? Are they seriously acting like he isn't the worst and does actually deserve either of these women? You gotta be freaking kidding me. I don't care about his weak half-assed redemption story about instant therapy success and a stupid sob story about how he doesn't let joy into his life, because his dad died. Give me a break! Amelia and Teddy are way too good for him. And I say that as someone who only gives half a crap about the former and none at all about the latter.

    Who will Owen give his rose to? #teamamelia or #teamteddy 

    tune in next week for the exciting conclusion! 

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  15. 4 minutes ago, Janie430 said:

    The thing is, one of the early things we learned about Jo was that she had gotten physical with people.  It was kind of lost when they started talking about her abusive ex-husband, but when her boyfriend Jason grabbed her arm, she beat him up (probably because she thought he was like her ex husband).  And I think there were a couple of discussions with Stephanie before that about hitting people.  So it wouldn't surprise me if she ended up getting physical with someone.  It would in fact be an awesome story if she did, because it would really talk about the cycle of violence.  

    This would be really interesting especially since we know of how Alex feels about women hitting men and he seems the type to just take it and not tell anyone. This may skew a little more grey than Krista wants to go in terms of survivors of domestic abuse but this would be an interesting way to go with jo and something not only grey’s has ever done, but something you don’t see on network television often. 

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  16. 7 hours ago, Eqahan said:

    Totally agree! It looks like Krista wanted to repeat the HYPE/BUZZ from April’s meltdown last season (the only amazing story arc happened in s14) but MEHHHH...April’s storyline was more believable as compared to Jo’s. Jo is too much in this case.. are we supposed to feel sorry and bad for her? I get it but why she has to be that mad, down or what so ever as if like she has been through something really really horrible (huh?). I believe what makes April’s story was so good and more relatable was because the acting is also contributed so much to the success of telling a good storyline. Lets be real, the more we feel and believe what these characters have been through the more we feel relatable to the story and feel represented. I think Jo’s meltdown storyline is just a dragging to make sure She has a continuation story arc after the 15x19 episode but it is a weak writing and execution. 

    The nico actor is soo sooo horrible and I feel shame just watching him. I know The casting team chose him is just for a hot good looking guy and good abs but he is NOT. This also proved the show has been a downhill. They had casted so many great actors before but now they just doing it for fun and as long as it running till the end of its era. 

    I feel like Sarah Drew was immensely under appreciated by krista and grey’s anatomy. People who didn’t even like april felt for april during her spiral last season, and I think it was for a few reasons: 1. We had a firm grasp on who april was so when she was acting so very out of character, when she broke down in the supply closet and just cried out of despair, we felt that! 2. A loss of faith is something that is a little more tangible to grasp even if you don’t have faith. The notion of losing something that was the core of who you were, people can get that. 3. Camilla is fine but Sarah Drew is a better actress imo, and has a way of conveying her feelings on her face and exuding outward what her character is feeling. 4. April was alone in part by choice cause she was pushing the one person who tried away and by circumstance cause no one was “oh man, april is looking bad, let’s notice and try to help” like they are doing for Jo. Jo has already had triple the amount of people trying to help and notice her plight than April so we the audience end up feeling exasperated (at least I do). 

    I cant imagine the mind f*** jo experienced learning what she learned. What I’m having a hard time with is the, pardon my terminology I can’t think of a better one, the psycho look in her eyes. It felt like at any moment she was gonna get physical with someone, and she tends to look mad more than anything else. I think that’s where some disconnect comes in. 

    Finally, I do think this is Krista thinking she can get the same result as April’s arc with an actor and a character she actually likes. The arrogance in that notion irritates me to no end.

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  17. There’s some weird vibes from the situation between Ramirez and grey’s. Honestly what would they even do with her in this iteration of grey’s? Callie is such an iconic character for the show she would immediately take up a lot of space, it’s a lot like when Addison would make visits. 

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  18. I’m beyond done with the oedipus vibe between Catherine/Debbie Allen and jackson/Jesse Williams. The penis joke thing to embarrass Jackson was funny in season 8. Exclaiming “my baby bought me a penis!” Is just bordering on gross. Stop it! 

    Meredith and jackson are NOW somehow exchanging dialogue (cause it did not feel like a natural convo) about how Richard is their father more than their own fathers? Meredith, we’ve known this for years. Jackson? You're screwing his biological daughter. Stop it! 

    No Megan, Owen and teddy shouldn’t be a thing. They shouldn’t be coparenting. Owen can def benefit from therapy but they better not try and link his crap behavior to his PTSD. Also a grown woman shouldn’t be saying “dum dum” if you’re not talking about the candy. 

    I wish this show actually cultivated friendships. Heck I wish they hired better actors. The actor who plays Link just has such a fake delivery. Like he’s saying things as if he rehearsed. It’s weird and distracting. Plus we are 20 episodes in and NOW we are giving context to their friendship. Be better krista! 

    Jo is getting a similar downward spiral arc that April got last year except this time people will actually give a damn and be proactive. What a concept! 

    I dont have too much comment on jo’s actual spiral cause I couldn’t imagine learning what she learned. If anyone needs to be in therapy it’s her. 

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  19. 1 hour ago, readster said:

    The problem was that Linc confessed to Alex that he did notice her ex was controlling and even saw bruises and being that he was study ortho he knew they weren't self inflicted. However his excuse was: "he was a well known doctor and I was afraid to say anything." Which Alex replied; "If it would have been me and I knew, I would have kicked his ass and not cared about the consequences." Which just painted Linc like a classic: "Don't ask, don't tell." It made things even more stupid because when it was all said and done, Jo's ex might have been a well known doctor, but apparently people knew he had a bad temper and was an asshole. Yet brushed it off as: "he's a doctor." 

    The last time alex thought he “knew” he almost killed an innocent man. 

    I don’t remember the scene, I just remember link saying he didn’t know but he never liked him. 

    Its such a weird position cause we know that if we suspect something we should say/do something but if he did would she have accepted that help or tell him to mind his business? As a society we walk the tight rope of both constantly.

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  20. 3 minutes ago, Marley said:

    I wish Meredith and Dekuca would just end already but I have a feeling it’s not going to anytime soon. They are so bad together. I just can’t get over how shitty the choices on pairing ppl up are. All the couples suck. Meredith and Dekuca have like the opposite of chemistry. It’s cringey to watch them. I see no reason why she would want to be with him anyways. He’s a little bratty baby. She’s supposed to be this amazing world renowned surgeon on the show and she chooses Deluca as a partner? Yea right.

    Makes me think ellen and Krista don’t want a partner for meredith, they want a puppy. 

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