Meredith Quill

I never professed it to be fair. The patriarchy never cared about being fair to women, quite the opposite in fact. For this and other reasons, they wanted women oppressed and controlled by societal norms/rules, and consequently, down the ages, we absolutely were. Which, imo, means the writers got it correct in that regard.

Oh sexism is definitely at work in Westeros 100% otherwise Rhaenys would have been queen. As are double standards, as pointed out by young Rhaenrya to her father regarding her own activities. I'm not talking about a religious standpoint, I'm talking about whether a husband would be okay with his wife allowing another man, who has become so aroused by her, to jerk off in her presence. It's as simple as that. If we believe the answer is no, no he would not, but it happens regardless - then that's a fidelity problem regardless of her religious viewpoint. And if that husband happens to be the king, or a lord - I doubt religious arguments would save her head being separated from her neck. Furthermore, I cannot conceive of a situation where Alicent had the following thought process to justify her behaviour: A: "Larys wants to trade sexual favours for information and doing dirty work for me. Hmm, would Viserys understand that it's simply a means to an end and it's not actually cheating per se as our faith sees it? Yeah, he totally would be okay with me essentially prostituting myself out like that." Like I said; fidelity matters to such folks because it goes hand in glove with trustworthiness. In a place/time where dna tests don't exist, the only way a man could have any certainty that his children were actually his, was knowing his wife was faithful and trustworthy. A wife has the ability to fool a husband in that manner, the same is not true in reverse. That's why complete trust and faithfulness was/is paramount.

Indeed, team Green was all set to set aside Rhaenys and her granddaughters in favour of Vaemond before Viserys did his final - boss - walk to the throne that day. Rhaenys knows team Green are not in her grandaughters best interests whatsoever.

Call me sceptical but I somehow doubt Viserys (or any married man, particularly nobles) would have agreed that his queen behaving that way is all fine, no problemo, a-okay - if that's what you're saying without saying here?

This.

Indeed, the books are the books and the show is the show. It's not easy sometimes coming to terms with separating the two, but you'd drive yourself potty if you don't manage to do so.

About that...er, awks.

Yeah, Lady Misery is deffo going to assume Otto tried to kill her and so do a heel turn. I wonder if she'll be scarred from burns to add to the drama? We can but hope.

Are we still talking about Larys and his little beast? Yes, I just threw up in my mouth a little, heh.

Strong is the hypocrisy in that one. I see what you did there...bahahahaha

I wondered the same initially then quickly realised this must be their ahem, 'arrangement' ("I'm sure you'll reward me when the time is right"). This clearly wasn't the first instance - gross and pretty sure that counts as unfaithful for a married woman....

To make Alicent more sympathetic I expect. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oh Rhaenys why couldn't you just Especially Krispy Kreme.

Not a good side by side comparison. The king is an entirely different situation from a lord, let alone a wife standing in for her absent husband. Comparing the royal court with a noble house - those things are not the same at all. For starters, the king has a Hand... noble houses, do not. Not necessary perhaps but expedient, yes.

Just a friendly heads up; Emma Darcy's pronouns are them/they not she/her.

Why would she be 'in the crowd'? She's a member of the immediate family (and the only one there that we know of besides Vaemond) not some rando or distant relation. Additionally, if she had been in the crowd, the audience wouldn't know who she was, particularly as the character was aged up and had a new actor. So it makes sense from a show not tell viewpoint to have the character front and centre. Again, we weren't given any explanation beyond her informing her father of what's going on. So I'll stick with what we were shown and not assume beyond that. I believe the reason for Baela being a ward of Driftmark was mentioned albeit briefly; Daemon and Rhaenyra knew the presence of one of her granddaughters would be consoling for Rhaenys given she'd lost both her children, which they were, in part, responsible for. (Personally, I spitball it was useful for them to keep Driftmark on side and have an informant within its walls. However, that is my own speculation, not fact).

Sure, as a ward she doesn't have to be there, but she doesn't have to not be there either, that's my point. We were shown that the Watsonian narrative for her presence was a vehicle to have her be able to inform Daemon of the shenanigans going on regarding the Driftmark succession. That is what we were shown, so any rationale beyond that is pure speculation. Making further assumption based on nothing more than her presence at that *one specific meeting is just that and nothing more, assumption, unless we are told or shown more. *If we're going to make assumptions based on one scene alone, it could just as easily be handwaved that she likely asked to be there for the specific purpose of keeping her father informed of the goings on at Driftmark and/or to find out how her grandfather is given his injury. Or another dozen reasons.

Her being present means zilch, zip, diddly squat. It was a show mechanic to demonstrate that Baela was there at all - it was a Doylist device not a Watsonsian narrative. Who said she was visiting? I said she was being raised by, subtle but important distinction. Of course his age has everything to do with such critique - him being a young lad means he has plenty of time to be taught/trained before reaching adulthood...lol. If someone young, not yet an adult, and inexperienced became Lord of Driftmark I have little doubt there would be plenty of people around to advise and teach him what he needed to know. As I said, imo this is moot until/unless it becomes an issue in the show. So not the same but we shall beg to differ as I have zero desire to argue the points all over again.

I'm assuming worst case scenario and not getting my hopes up, heh.

Where was it said that Baela was at Driftmark being trained for anything? As far as I'm aware she was a ward of Rhaenys and nothing more. Being a ward doesn't indicate being trained for something, it isn't like being a squire, only being raised by. As Rhaenyra precisely thanked Rhaenys for doing - she didn't thank her for training her, she thanked her for raising her. As I said he's young, so who's to say he won't head there next week/month/year? Corlys may not be young but not being young isn't the same as dead or senile. Not to mention that I would expect in a fleet the size of Driftmark's there are many captains who can pass on their knowledge if Corlys was unable to do so himself. I think this is a moot argument at this moment time.

He's young, there's plenty of time yet. Plus Corlys isn't even actually dead so... not sure why this should be an issue at this moment in time.

Krispy Kreme WISHES he had the same amount of valor and honour as Leonidas' little finger, bahahahahaha. Leonidas wasn't a dishonourable whiny little whinging bish. No comparison. If that idea floats your boat, go with it, heh. He was 'a' king. Just bc someone usurped a throne doesn't mean they deserved it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It may be a fairly long way off yet, but I'm absolutely relishing seeing the moment when Krispy Kreme gets what will have been a long time coming to him. No glorious or heroic knightly demise for you, asshat. Disclaimer: It is really awful that children die (from either side). Much as I may lament Rhaenyra's grisly fate, knowing that Otto Slimetower, Krispy Kreme, Almond, Aegon and Larys all end up paying the ultimate price for their parts in hateful and scheming treachery = totes worth it. Especially knowing that Alicent lives to see everything she conspired to achieve go to shit. Daemon going out like a fucking absolute BOSS in taking a valuable enemy piece off the board - regrettable but have to say, yup, worth it. And only worth it because it's Rhaenrya and Daemon's son who ultimately ends up on the throne. #TEAMBLACKBABY

The primary purpose was to ask Ned to become Hand.