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I remember I felt the same! But also assumed this show would never go there.

So glad the show is finally back! Also a bit weary as the second season of my other mystery box show was a total dud for me. But this was a strong start. The only thing that makes me think it might not be Helena in Helly's place is that surely she would have thought out a better lie than just stammering about a night gardener. But all other signs, like fumbling for the switch on the computer, point to her being Helena. Even though the idea of her coming back multile times is very interesting. Sooo... about that new painting we saw, "Egan pardons his betrayers"... The four betrayers are buried in the sand to die a long and painful death. He is holding a sword in a way that makes me think the pardon means he will mercifully behead them... I wonder what that means for our four betrayers. The photo in the newspaper was obviously fake, so I wonder if they really made any splash in the outer world at all, or Lumen managed to smooth things over before the news even got out. My favorite funny line was Milchick explaining about Ms Cobel pursuing what might be called a thruple. The delivery was priceless.

Another refresher/ recap:

Yes, all the sweaters are beautiful. I don't knit but I'd love to have all of them.

Overall, I liked this Chistmas special, particularly compared to the previous one. However, I do have some niggles. Firstly, I find baby/ toddler storylines very boring to watch. They could have cut the Jimmy stuff down a bit. Secondly, Mrs Hall... who got the storyline most of us expected. Great work by Anna, her reactions/ non-reactions were very sonvincing and in character. And thank you, show, for staying true to your slightly escapist self and not killing Edward off! I hope it'll be smooth sailing for him from now on. Also well done: the fox symbolism. Some nice touches, like Helen stroking Audrey's arm when they broke the news. I like these toned-down reactions, as opposed to... say, season 4. I did find Siegfried pretty useless as a friend (particularly pre-fox rescue), or rather, far less engaged than I'd have expected. Series 1 Siegfried would have been there for her, even if he'd just annoyed the hell out of her by strubbornly sitting around in the kitchen. And he would have moved heaven and hell to call his friends and even enemies in high places/ the military to find out what happened to her son. I don't think we're supposed to assume their friendship has suffered (e.g. by her wanting to leave the household at one point), so I can only come up with two explanations: 1. different writers 2. They want to put a lid on the shipping part of the fandom and went a bit overboard, throwing the unique, if unconventional friendship out with the bathwater, so to speak. Although, when everyone sat on the stairs with Mrs Hall, cuddling and laughing, Siegfried notably stood aside, isolated, unable or unwilling to join, but apparently overwhelmed with relief. Fanifc writers will latch onto that, I'm sure! 🫠 Finally, while I appreciate the less bombastic approach to Christmas, I did miss some people at the table. Edward would have been nice, of course. (They've fudged timelines before, so I don't care if that would have even been possible in real life.) BUT, most notably, no Tricky and Mrs Pumphrey!! We didn't see them at all in the episode! Oh, and wouldn't Carmody & Hamish have joined them? All that said, it was lovely to see these folks again, plus a cute little fox, and a nice finale to a decent season.

HA, I never noticed!

In my headcanon, he fell from a horse. No idea why, I don't even know if the Lanape used horses. Well, if they didn't, it could explain why he failed! Come to think of it, they are not very consistent as to what we see from their causes of death and state at time of death. Flower has the bear marks, Pete the arrow and Hetty the hidden cord around her neck. The basement ghosts look ill and filthy. But Isaac doesn't, nor do we see Nigel's injury.

Well, that was a fun two-parter! Bela is a hoot. I'd like to see her back more often.

Yeah, I'm out. I've gone from "I need to know, g'ddammit!" just a few episodes ago to "I really don't care anymore". I don't know the source material either, but the show feels as if they were hell-bent to artificially stretch out a plot that should be 2 seasons at most to 4 or 5 or however many they are planning. The first season had a lot of thrill/ tension for me and I cared for many of the characters (ofc they just had to kill many of them off bc that's the hot thing ever since GOT, but still, there were some left to care about) ; now I'm just bored. I had to force myself to not do other things or just drift off. I have to give them credit for an unintended lol though: When they had Shirl smear ointment on Knox' conveniently exposed body. Substle, show, subtle!

Well, I didn't like the episode very much, except for the very end, when Ransom was trying to find a tagline. I guess that makes it easier to say good-bye to the show.

Pretty much this. I wholeheartedly agreed with Boimler's comments about multiverses.

Hmmm... Unless a new character arrives, will the new li be Flower?

I forgot to say I love the title, a nice homage.

Oh yes, I meant to say Nigel, sorry. Will fix it.

Thank you, @Notabug. Lester? They effing killed off Lester?! Geeze!