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I keep forgetting to bring this up! It bugs me, too. And she always tells tons of peple she knows they're lying... might want to keep it to yourself for a while... Even though this time, I'd argue it wasn't in cold blood. Manslaughter, but otoh, a killing for cover-up makes it murder, right?

I'm happy for anyone who enjoys it. I'm confused about the framing as "bailing." I don't view watching a show as a commitment on my side, like joining the army, adopting a dog, or entering a relationship. (Even though I do like to use relationship metaphors for it, admittedly! Then again, if you leave a relationship that doesn't work for you anymore, I wouldn't call that bailing, either.) So I will watch it as long as it brings me joy/ entertainment etc. I will certainly take one or two bad eps in a stride, but at some point, I'm done and will quit before I start to actively hate the show. (Funny that someone upthread mentioned GOT. For me, its deterioration began long before the final season, but I kept watching it and ended up hate-watching before I finally quit. I don't like hate-watching.)

I had the same thought, but then remembered being Charlie's friend may cost you your life!

I instantly suspected him, too, although drinking milk wasn't a red flag for me. As for Charlie not having to run anymore... I'm not falling for that again! I bet she'll manage to encounter some baddies and be on the run once again...

I decided after 12 minutes that I didn't want to watch anymore. Ava being cringe and a loser everyone dunks on, Deborah being mean - have they always been this one-note? Anyway, it just isn't funny for me anymore. Oh well, we had a nice 3 seasons, I guess.

Well, apple picking jobs and the like apparently bought her a 3 months vacation...

With good material, Lynch & Metcalf would make a formidable comedy duo!

Okayyy, so Becky got a job as a project leader right after college, due to her age, I mean experience plus her ability to overshare during a job interview and not read a room. Jackie might just get rehired as a street police officer, despite her few years of job experience from decades ago (plus that injury resulting from, you know, handling a gun), despite her age of 60+ years and, oh yeah, being batshit crazy. AND she just suddenly happens to have conncetions that will get Mark his dream job within 6 weeks. These writers are as unrealistic with the good stuff as they were with the misery porn! Don't they at least know people who live in the real world?! I'm also not a fan that there's zero accountability for Mark, not even symbolically, nor compensation for the victims of his data thefts. Lastly, Becky and her bf seemed to be doing fine keeping their money separate, but in true Conner fashion, Darlene had to give unsolicited advice...

Late Night def has a Peabody category, bc Colbert regularly whines about losing to John Oliver!

I thought Darlene and random bar dude had more chemistry in 5 minutes than she's had with Ben ever since they met!* Btw, I find the "Ben just isn't that into you, Darlene" neglect plot isn't as entertaining for me as it may not sound. Oh, and apparently Darlene doesn't know her husband's handwriting... whatev. Jane Lynch was a nice surprise. She elevates even mediocre dialogs/ shows. And speaking of chemistry, I know Jackie is supposed to be straight etc, but I thought she and Lynch had it in spades. *ETA And I'd hate for them to have an affair, was just pointing out the bad decision to pair up Darlene & Ben.

I mean, I always thought the feud was a terrible idea. They could at least have used the slight softening in last week's ep to build on that. And I'm starting to get fed up with both of them - not just for the fighting, but the trite material Deb wants on the one hand (mostly daytime tv material), and othoh Ava not realizing that if she wants a Peabody Award, she needs to hook up with John Oliver's team. I'm glad the watchdog woman called them out! Judging from Ava's face in the end, I thought she'll quit. Ofc it's possible she'll get fired first. I doubt they'll reconcile before the season's final episode. There were still funny scenes and lines, but yeah... the feud is dragging the show down. On a sidenote, I thought Deborah was pretty rude when she confronted Ava in front of the couple... My take was that Ava's remark was a reaction to that. Still ... enough with the bickering. I'm guessing they'll learn that the real late show should be something in between what each of them wants, plus that they are more similar than they'd like to admit, and... yawn, I'm bored.

I'm officially over this show. If I wanted to watch an immature, trite "losing virginity" plot written for an audience of 13 year olds, I'd watch high school movies. (And those would be better.) Even though her falling out of the house was funny. Kyle's lines about how hard it is to meet someone bc ghosts, and also, maybe she's not Jewish was funny but made no sense - after all, Sam isn't Jewish and he made a pass at her anyway.

This was such a fun episode! Well, except for the Pete/ Alberta part which, ugh... They even managed to make me not hate teenage brat ghost, but actually feel sympathy for her. Other than that, I gues I'm now looking forward to Sass-less eps, simply because they can't stop with the "omg he's still a virgin! Is he still a virgin?!" jokes... Btw, is this show produced by the people who make Elsbeth? They had the same title this week (except it was 33 instead of 37 years).

I agree that 1. this wasn't a great episode and 2. yes, the show is definitely taking Deborah's side, with almost comically everyone telling Ava she's done A Very Bad Thing. It's very on-the-nose, particularly with the "medium". So I have no doubts Ava is heading for a fall, probably both professionally and mentally (having lost her "innocence" etc)

No! Well, kissing at least. Not gonna lie, it was hot. Right in one of the first scenes, when they faced off, and then in the end... It's definitely intentional. While I somewhat enjoy the tension and the writing ("I only like that word when we're in London!"), I'm not happy with Deborah going so ott. Both with the 'pranks' and the physical abuse. I mean, Ava adored her; she was basically dumped by her (not in a romantic way) but then still came running when Ava asked her to, sacrificed a good job and ruined her relationship for Deb, only for D to break her promise to her the first chance she got. Idc how annoying or millennial Ava can get, I'm on her side because being that mean to her is like kicking a puppy. And while I'm glad Ava has grown a spine, I'm not sure I want to watch this fight for a whole season (or longer). I'm guessing it's going to get a lot more passive-aggressive now, so... progress? I can totally see D pretending to make up and A falling for it, only to find out the hard way it wasn't real. In the scene with Marcus, it became clear how narcissistic Deborah really is. It's all about loyalty to her, and not reciprocal loyalty. That's not something that can be cured in real life, so I wonder where the wrtiers will take them. It's a deeply unhealthy relationship, but still very entertaining. It's good the show is finally back!