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But it`s so basic. In the case of Norse people still speak it on Iceland and you could just ask them. To me this is the laziness of some Anglos who imagine that English is the only language ever to exist. And if I made an English period piece and mispronounced half the words you`d laugh at it. And I laugh at Vikings. It could have been good but is not, mostly because of this stuff. Vikings didn`t have "an accent". They spoke Norse. And yes it is a language. Contrary to what British imperialists tried to convince people several languages except English exist in the world. Who knew right!.
If a Scandanavian production set in England and using English for some weird purpose instead of Norse made a mistake, no native English speaker would care a fig. They would assume it was a Scandavian accent with the actor and no big deal. Max Von Sydow always had a very slight accent when playing Americans and Brits and so forth and it was cool. No one thought it was weird at all to hear him speak. Rather most people enjoy a slight accent like that.
Also English has about a zillion different accents so English speaking people are used to all sorts of accents being used. Or actors of one English speaking ilk flub accents of another. The old time Irish accents in classic films from the 30's up to fairly recently give modern day Irish a good giggle I've been told by Irish friends. But they never get upset or offended about it, just amused.
And again, the Norse spoken over 1200 year ago wouldn't have the same accent as modern day Norse. No one knows how they actually sounded because there were no recordings or even a written language to try and piece it out with. There is absolutely no way to tell how it sounded except that it would have definitely not sounded like modern day Norse. They may have not have had "the great vowel shift" English did but every single language on earth changes over the years let alone the centuries.
I didn't even know if the Viking "accent" in this show was suppose to be a Norse accent when I started watching it. I just thought they went with a different English accent to try and make them sound somewhat different than the Saxons (who didn't remotely sound like they sound on the series except in the few lines they sub-title spoken in Old English), Or later the Franks whose French-accented English accent isn't 800's accurate either. No different than Romans sounding British and rebels fighting Romans sounding American in a lot of productions (see/hear Kirk Douglas' Spartacus). It's just been common film-making practice.
As for English language imperialism?!? If a production is made by English language people for English language networks they tend to speak English in it. Same with films. I can't begin to imagine watching David Lean's Doctor Zhivago in Russian or Lawrence of Arabia in mostly Arabic. Though I did hear a slight Arabic accented Doctor Zhivago, heh. But everyone loved Omar Sharif's accent, part of his charm.
You don't go to the movies or watch shows to get linguistic lessons. In the end it's an entertainment and a darn good one, not a linguistic lesson. I'm just sorry you are so invested in accents to not enjoy the series. Everyone to their own tastes though so peace out like they say.
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Thought it was cool they had Athelstan's voice citing very appropritae Bible verses over vikings busy being vikings. Nice touch. Glad Athelstan's presence remains not to be forgotten.
Now that Rollo is finally getting his Normandy lands guess he is officially on Team Franks unless and until he fudges things again maybe. The Frankish king still looks like a simpleton and his daughter is shown with a knife hovering over Rollo sleeping in bed. Sorry, princess, but Rollo has got him some other stuff to do and you aren't stopping him cause no one wants to re-do history books that do not feature Normandy, Hastings (down the line) and all that.
Oh Floki, I see that long voyage to Iceland in your future sooner than later. No more with Ragnar will you be. Was that Floki or someone else trussed up and screaming in the cave? (BTW who was the woman with the blood coming from her mouth? Was that Helga or not?).
I assume the pep ralley by Bjorn was to keep everyone loyal to Ragnar as he recovers from his wounds. But while he's recovering Bjorn will get a taste more of leadership. And speaking of leading, Lagertha seems in fine fettle dealing with anyone doing her dirty. Guess she never heard about not hitting ... errr, cutting ... below the belt though, heh.
"Seer seer on the wall, who's the female to rule them all?"
In other news, Ecbert is not looking forward to Ragnar's return for some strange reason (cough) settlement massacre (cough).
I want to see it all now. The History Channel is pathetic in presenting this strung out soooo slowley. I want my Vikings and I want them now!
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Thanks, AzureOwl, for that YouTube link.
Looks to be an awesome season from just those clips alone.
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Of course we have a TV show to make here. It is not a documentary. It's historical fiction and they did a very very clever thing making Rollo Ragnar's brother. Gets viewers invested in Rollo early on instead of suddenly having to introduce a new character a bit later. In historically based dramas you meld elements of the two together to produce something with the right feel the creators are after. They have done that in aces. Kudos to them.
Also online sites list the Kattegat coast as also being western coast of Sweden up to the border of modern Norway. So even history people can argue over minor details like this. Why bother. Sit back and enjoy the ride I say cause it is one awesome ride.
And yes we know they have moved Ragnar up to the Paris years. People here are aware of it. Who cares. People know about the real Floki. Again, who cares. The real Floki is great inspiration for the one in this drama. Boat building, anti-Christian is pretty right on here. Put him in the drama to serve the drama as opposed to making up the anti-Christian Viking out of whole cloth. Works for me.
(Besides Ragnar and Floki are from oral traditions so who knows anything about them in real history in the end anyway. Could be a Viking telephone game version of these guys in reality especially Ragnar who is thought to already be a meld of several Vikings. See, Viking historical drama, aka sagas, were doing it -- serving the drama as much as the history -- way before TV shows were invented.).
And you have a totally mesmerizing Ragnar actor under contract, you use him. Why not? This is the real world of real money, real contracts. real actors in a real entertainment business.
Besides I don't want to go through like 10 Saxon kings. Eckbert (who never met Ragnar in reality) and his son will do well for them all. I don't want to go through 100 different Viking warriors and Frank nobles. First rule of historical drama is to merge numerous characters into a handful because that is how good drama works. Then scrunch timelines so drama happens and not water dripping and birds chiriping for 30 years. And good drama = good ratings = the show stays on the air. Without acknowledging the laws of good drama there are no Vikings, Saxons, Franks or others to grace our TV screen period.
Pure history is for documentaries and books. Drama must be served as well here. So historical drama is another genre totally from pure history. Oranges and apples.
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I really don't care about the accents. As long as the Vikings sound different somewhat than the Saxons or the Franks it works for me. Besides the accents 1200 years ago are different than now. Norse as well as English.
It's a historical fiction and not a documentary so I don't see it as a big deal any more than the costumes getting all spruced up looking or the hair being clean and combed or all the actors having decent looking teeth. Or teeth at all, hah.
Happens in all historical fictions. I don't complain if ancient Romans aren't speaking ancient Latin corectly or at all for that matter. Nor do I know how they would sound anyway. Doesn't matter to me and I'm a history nut.
But again, you separate the historically based drama shows/movies from documentaries and don't sweat the little stuff is how I feel. I'm not viewing for a lesson in linguistics. It's the feel of the show that counts for me and the feel is totally awesome. The writing is great, the acting is great, the look is great, the music is great, the cinamatography is great. I ain't a-complain' about this show.
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I just finished binge watching the entire series on Netflix for the first time. What a brilliant show, made all the more poignant by Andy Whitfield's death. And yes, the final episode was devasting to watch so thank you for the posts about the real history. I was wondering if someone here could recommend a good source for more history on Spartacus.
Straight history you can google the original sources online since they aren't copyrighted. Very little is written though. Roman writers writing about Crassus mainly. It makes for dry reading unless you are a hardcore history buff.
For historical fiction like this the best is the Howard Fast novel called "Spartacus" which the original Kirk Douglas movie is based on.
And the 1960 film itself is a most see. No computer graphics extras. That last battle scene featured a cast of thousands. Excellent cinematography and score. Great cast too with Laurence Olivier as Crassus and Peter Ustinov as Batianus especially. The break-out scene from the ludus is more accurate in the film while the TV series had other things more accurate like the fact Sparatcus had a wife at one time. Different mediums and eras, both great in their own way. Enjoy both the film and the TV series for what they offer I say.
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Btw, ITA about the good writing for everyone except for the character of Floki who is just so painfully textbook. I can't for the life of me figure out why they have dropped the ball on that character. I'll watch again for him, too, so I can see what his fans see in him other than falling for a cliche hook-line-and-sinker.
And I still have to disagree about Floki. I think the character is many-layered and incredibly well-written and acted. Sorry, just got to stick up for the character when I see it bashed so much on here.
I think it was heart-breaking to see Floki, who loved Ragnar so much and worked so very very hard for him, feel the pain of losing him to Athelstan. Yeah Athelstan was the more interesting and gentle and likeable soul. But Floki too was an outsider of sorts when we first meet him and Ragnar seemed the only one who realized his genius for boat building. Ragnar made him feel special when no one else was interested in him even existing back in the beginning.
Athelstan and his God destroyed Floki on so many levels without Athelstan ever being aware of it. Or Ragnar for that matter. Floki's return back to the outsider was a sad thing to behold. In the end he destroys himself in a desperate effort to destroy Athelstan and his "Christ God" and return to the good old days of yore.
I still like to think of him when he and Helga were tending Ragnar's wounds all those months. He risked his life so many times for Ragnar. Not just then but in battle and defying Haraldsen in the beginning with Ragnar and almost getting killed by Rollo that time. He can't understand why, despite him doing everything "by the book" via his Gods (and his love of Ragnar), that all this went so bad for him. Killing Athelstan has now made things far worse instead of "solving" his problem. Athelstan is a noble martyr now and even Helga can't tolerate him.
Floki didn't set out to be bad. He set out to be good as defined by his culture and it all blew up in his face. He's a lost soul now doubting his Gods and shunned by his wife and despised by the one man he loved most. This is, to use a Christian term from those days (haha), "the dark night of the soul" for Floki. It will be interesting to see what happens to him next season.
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Easily the most vain team rocks a selfie challenge to clinch TAR. Somehow it seems a fitting result for this particular season...
Yeah. Glad this season of bland, Dating Game TAR is over. Hope they never go with this gimmick or "stranger" teams ever ever EVER again. What a wasted season.
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Been watching this season and was glad they had started to "turn" around a bit from the stupid non-spying first season. Still hate selfish Abe but at least my love for Simcoe increases. But this episode? Washington playing Hamlet in The Twilight Zone as the clock ... err, watch, ticks to High Noon for Hewlett? Total bizarro world but not in a good way. (I always found Washington over praised and boring. Benedict Arnold's victory at Saratoga saved his bacon and he never stood up for the guy and the rest is history as they say).
People who have remained true to themselves in this series: Ben, Andre, Hewlett, Caleb, Mary.
People who screw over other people: Simcoe (in a delightful way that is true to his roguish self at least) and Whining Abe (in the worst father/husband of the year non-award winning way). Also Anna who kicked her hero husband to the curb for Whining Abe who no other woman on the planet earth would want except true blue Mary.
I felt sorry for both Hewlett and the prisoner that tried to throw Abe under the buggy by telling the truth about him. That guy at least did what he did because he was sick with fear what would happen to his 11 year old daughter with him not there to defend her from lewd redcoats. Abe doesn't even care he has a kid at home.
Simcoe coming into camp like the original pilot's Headless Horseman from Sleepy Hollow was awesome. I expected him to throw away his bayonet and pick up an AK-47 at any moment. Simcoe's more bad-ass better than Darth Vader and he does it all without a decent light saber.
Funny I always disagree that a villain is more interesting than a hero because making a hero good is hard to do and good does indeed exist in this world too. And I like good better than bad. But when series top seeded Abe is your flawed hero and Simcoe is your top villain? Well in this series I root for the villain. First time ever too.
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^ Thanks, Peacheslatour. Remembered the disappeared bit, forgot the found bit. Much appreciated.
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And my Romero hate is fully cemented now. I didn't get the sense that he killed Bob strictly for Norma (even if so, my UO: completely not cool). I got the distinct sense his over-the-top shooting of Bob was in response to Bob's taunting him about being like his father.
I didn't. He called Bob to flee his house. He told him at the docks that he knew about his boat because of the conversation some time back with it's former owner. So he knew in advance that was where Bob would flee. He was therefore there ready to ambush and kill him in advance. Had nothing to do with pushing psychological buttons when it was all pre-meditative.
I agree with the poster above that termed Romero an old school wild west sheriff. That's what makes him so fun and likeable. Too bad he has an Achilles' heel called Norma. It will be the death of him ... literally.
I'm glad so many people here enjoy the Emma/Dylan stuff. I don't. I tune in for Psycho: The Early Years, not a Lifetime movie. Their scenes slow the show's pace down to a crawl for me. Only thing I can think of when I see them is who will Norman kill first. I mean the real person that "inspired" the fictional Norman had a real brother who disappeared and was presumed killed by him. Maybe they can make the disappearance an escape in this case instead but I sure hope they don't. Wouldn't make any sense for them to just run away knowing what at least Dylan knows and thus leaving Norman free to kill various people until the real time frame of Psycho kicks in. Besides I want Bates Motel to be a really dark show and not just kill off secondary characters.
Thanks to above poster that mentioned the theatre girl's father Norman killed. Yeah, self defense as mentioned but that does bring his kill total up to four though his murder total would still be three.
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As someone that has been predicting Norman would kill Bradley since season 1, I just want to say: CALLED IT.
Those last five minutes were absolutely chilling. Nice touch as showing Norma doing the killing. I already can't wait for next season, but I have a feeling the end is nigh...
Not to worry. TPTB say they have it set up to run 5 seasons so we still have 2 more full seasons to go. Plenty more bodies to stack up and a handy, unused hole to do it in next season. Norman's only killed his father, his teacher and Bradley so far. He's just warming up.
Ah, Romero, thought you were smart to walk away from crazy lady. But no. Now you are back killing for her. Not gonna end well for you. But you do what you do with such style. Norman/Mother should take lessons from you.
With Bob killed by the docks he presumably got dumped in the harbor. Then Bradley and her car (and drug money and the jewelry too) ended up there too. The first killed guy got dumped there in Season 1 as I recall. They are gonna have to dredge that harbor soon cause it is silting up with bodies.
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She said it about Bradley, Annika and Ms. Watson IIRC. She likes Emma because it doesn't seem that Norman is physically attracted to her.
But he was physically attracted to Emma. Norma was fine with Emma as soon as she learned that Emma had a fatal disease and only a short time to live. She was then the "safe" girl to pair Norman up with because she wouldn't take Norman away from her forever and would save him from all the other girls that would.
So will the pit finally get used next week? Or is it a red herring hide-a-murder place? I kind of like it being there. It's like an odd ball tourist attraction. "Come for Bates Motel. Stay for the pit."
Glad Chick still lives. He has some of the best one liners on the show. Maybe he and Romero -- who has reached his limit with this place -- should skip town and do a buddy trip all across America.
I assume Caleb will be back in another season now. Was hoping his storyline would end this season. With him and James gone now that leaves Chick and Bradley as possible Norman victims. And Norman doesn't have a build-up relationship with Chick yet. So I'm going with Bradley. (Norman and Chick on a road trip together would be fun too. Hell, even Norma and Chick. The fun that couple could have together. Hey maybe Chick is Norma's real soul mate).
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Excellent interview with Michael Hirst explaining his thought process in writing for these characters.
Thanks for the link. This link should also be in several other threads I think. Like the Hirst vision thing and history versus thing (why are they separate threads btw) and speculation/spoilers/media one where people might find the link easier.
BTW, why of why does this thread have a spoiler tag on the header. Season 3 is over with.
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Didn't he fight with the Vikings in at least one of the battles?
He killed several Wessex soldiers in his one major battle. Got that wrist torc from Ragnar for doing that and saving his life in the process. That was why it was such a big deal when he took it off and threw it into the ocean at the end.
Athelstan, I would argue, was extremely active. He made a journey of self-realization that took him further than any other character.
Both he and Floki accepted their faiths from childhood up without question. Hand-me-down faiths based on where you were born and who your parents and society worshiped and not based on actively seeking your path in life.
But when confronted with the opposite cultures, Athelstan was forced to begin his journey to finding what he really believed in while Floki, to use a poker term, stayed pat. Athelstan did believe in the Norse gods at one point but couldn't entirely disbelieve his own so was a man between cultures and gods. His journey was a quest for truth complete with asking all the hard questions -- for which Ragnar admired him -- so I think he did far more than any other character in the series.
I find a "quest" storyline far more interesting than an "action hero" storyline so I think Athelstan was one of the most interesting characters in the show. He could never have truly become a real devotee of his God without making that journey "there and back". <-- (Okay you know "quest" and Tolkein and I just couldn't help myself).
Meanwhile, Floki (who you all know I also like and find fascinating as a character), never ever asked the hard questions nor showed an open mind and so never questioned anything. So his beliefs just blew up on him completely outside the walls of Paris. Maybe next season he will become the new Athelstan as he seeks to rediscover his faith based on asking the hard questions and seeking the truth and not just accepting his hand-me-down religion without kicking it's tires and questioning things.
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^ Again we will have to agree to disagree. Floki is the guardian of the old ways and a tragic figure as such. No more a villain than Rollo raping or Ecbert ordering the village destroyed or Aethelwulf (Floki's Christian counterpart) destroying said village specifically ordering the death of the fleeing child or Ragnar standing by and letting the bishop be tortured to death by not only Floki but everyone else not named Athelstan. Even Athelstan killed his fellow Christians who were just defending their own land. Plenty of negative behavior to go around.
And I love the way Floki is written and played by the actor. Don't see him as one note at all. And I never saw that he said he hated his kid. Just that he was unhappy that life was going well at that moment. The implication was that that meant something bad would happen soon. A trait I share with Floki. I never ever trust the good times to last. So ... different strokes for different folks.
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Norman knows Bradley left town. It was in season 2. He was supposed to drive her to the bus station but had to do community theater so had Caleb do it, I think.
Dylan took her.
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What series are you watching to fill it up ?
The only thing I have to look forward to right now is Mad Men & it pales to Vikings. Better Call Saul was great but that's over now too.
History! Second season of Turn is on. It's better so far than last season which was pretty lame. They re-branded and subtitled it Washington's Spies this time around and they actually do some real spy stuff this season so far.
Less whiny Abraham so far but give him time to be a pain. Who cares. Master British spy Major Andre is being spied on himself. And a recently introduced and justifiably pissed off Benedict Arnold -- who was the Americans' biggest hero of the day but was politically stabbed in the back time after time -- is getting ready to jump ship soon. And the real interesting dudes back at Washington's camp (Ben Tallmage and Caleb) have more air time. And Richard Rogers lost command of his Tory rangers to the sadistically and delightfully evil Captain Simcoe who is off to having fun in the woods Simcoe style.
(There, all caught up through the first three episodes).
Not in the same league with Vikings but a nice historical diversion of worth to watch and definitely better so far this second season. (First season has Abraham as the main character being a whiny, self-centered, wishy-washy protagonist and it was a major mistake by the writers. They seem to be trying to correct it this time around though my guess is most viewers prefer all the other characters over him anyway).
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... They didn't need to torture him to get him to give up his non-existent honor code. Norman knocked him down and he scampered out like a rat. ...
But they (the torturers) did. He refused at first because he did have an honor code he tried to live up to. But he got a freaking nail through his foot which is one of the most sensitive and painful areas of the body. (Also one of the reasons Romans liked to pound one into the feet when crucifying people). That would have been way more than enough for me to tell all about everyone let alone poor James being beaten to a pulp for hours afterwards as well.
And I would have scampered out of that basement like a rat, snake, fish, goat or turkey after nearly getting strangled to death by a full blown, murderous (wait for it) "psycho."
Guy was a small town dude who was insecure ("that's my chair") and trying to cover for his insecurities in all the wrong ways. He was also looking for love in all the same wrong places and met a crazy woman who was doing the exact same thing. Norma lead him on as much as he hit on her. They were both unstable outsider types trying to muddle through life and stubbing their toes at every turn. Just James was at a bush league level and Norma was already playing in the bigs.
Hopefully James grew from this experience and lives to not tell his grandchildren about it. We know Norma doesn't grow (she never does ... that's the most infuriating part about her) nor live to have grandchildren. (And thank goodness Norman never procreates ... at least I hope he doesn't. I don't need a "Son of Psycho" sequel).
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Are we really crapping on James because he had the audacity to spill confidential information while be tortured and scared for his life? I guess this means chivalry is dead I read somewhere? The man is not Jason Bourne. The moment someone brought out the nail gun, most people would fold. He put up with hours of it. James has made many poor choices but giving up information while also being tortured and fearing for his life is not one of them.
Yeah chivalry dead because a human being breaks under torture? I agree that's makes no sense at all. Even Navy SEALS are instructed to give out information immediately since no human being on earth can hold out against torture long. (Glad James didn't end up as a total red shirt and actually made it out of town if not totally in one piece).
Norma is a complete idiot. (D'oah). Romero was her only hope for true help and she lied to him again when he told her this was the last chance too thus condemning herself, as we all know, to death at the hands of the one person she was mistakenly protecting. And, of course, pushing aside the one person who could help her. The one person who has risked his life several times over for her and even gotten shot for her. Poor Romero has gone a thousand extra miles for Norma and gets treated like total crap yet again for his efforts. Hopefully he will stick to his word and walk away from her forever. But hope doesn't come easily in the fictional world of Crazy Town, USA.
(One does wonder at the degree of delusional denial and wigged-out rationalization Norma has going on in her head. She has a murderer for a son and she refuses to either turn him in or get real help for him thus she will become, in effect, an accomplice in her own murder. But probably a few others leading up to hers as well).
Chick had the two best lines of the night. The one people have mentioned above. And right before that when Dylan and Caleb declare they will both run the guns he made some kind of comment like "A father-son road trip while bonding over gun running." Not exact quote. The exact was funnier.
And poor Chick's fabulous new art work hit the dust right after all the dead people "father-son" shot. The world will be lesser for it's loss.
23 feet is pretty deep. I imagine Norman can fit in a few layers of bodies into that hole. How nice of Bob to provide him with it.
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I think those negative reactions to Odo´s litlle kinks are bit unfair. If he was younger and better looking, the reactions from many female viewers would be "you can whip me anytime". Like in 50 Shades of Grey.
And I think to believe that "many females" think perversion and masochism (and the lack of self-worth it implies) at the hands of a better looking man is just fine and dandy is more than a bit unfair.
I wish they had staged Athelstan's death a bit different to imply there was no way Ragnar wouldn't automatically think Floki did it given Floki's comments over the years. Maybe shown more violent threats from others -- as opposed to a few ground spittings -- over the tossed away wrist torque. A few red herring Vikings threatening Athelstan with death with Ragnar watching. A small thing but a cool thing maybe. Would have made the last lines uttered for this season even more chilling.
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Back to the episode: I don't believe that Ragnar would be pleased about the Emperor and Rollo. Remember the prophesy of the seer to Ragnar that it would be bad for Ragnar if "the bear married the princess".
I'm blanking here. I remember Rollo got a good Seer-deal on the naked dancing on beach one. I remember the bear marries the princess too. But I don't remember the bear marrying the princess being bad for Ragnar. How was that phrased?
And kudos to John Kavanagh as the Seer. He is Ireland's most famous and beloved character actor over many decades and it's been great "seeing" him get some decent cameo work in this show. (Got to see him as Thenardier the innkeeper in Les Mis in Dublin once when I was there). Though I am sorry for him that he has to get his hand licked all the time in this show, heh.
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I didn't understand why they fought so hard to get into Paris only to sack it and then leave.
That was about all they could do. They can't conquer and hold land. Too small a population for that and too many Franks to have to rule. Plus this lot have never ruled anyone before. It would be like the Bedouins in Damascus at the end of Lawrence of Arabia. Ruling a city is still beyond them at this point. Especially one teeming with irate Christians. Raiding is fun, ruling isn't.
I liked the three farewells to Ragnar. Lagertha still has the hots for him and hopes they can have a rousing good time Viking-style in Valhalla if he can get a day pass from Athelstan's heaven, hah.
Rollo is all yeah I envied you and thought you'd live longer. Who knew. Guess Odin. Oh well everybody's got to die so whatever, bro. Laters. Gotta go dance naked on a beach somewhere.
And Floki was all Tommy Smothers. Mom always liked Athelstan best. Loved the delivery of the line "Give Athelstan my regards!" And he is still in the dog house with Helga. Ah, the poor Flokmeister was having a bad eye liner day.
"Odo, heard about your secret chamber. Can I come over and play? Yer new friend, Aethelwulf the Whipped."
Princess Gisla: "I would never marry that filthy heathen ... rant ... dog ... vent ... unwashed pig ... rant ... not a piece of meat for him ... vent ... he disgusts me ... rant ... I vomit at his sight ... rant ... no soup for you!"
Rollo: (proud of his linguistic command of one word and fascinated by her) "Hello."
Not the grand finale style of Season 2 but I didn't think that could ever be topped. I'll take Ragnar still alive and out thinking everyone around him in any finale though. And poor Floki officially fingered and left hanging in fear until 2016.
Next season. Snow! A bear! Davy Crockett ... err, Bjorn! (About time we had some deep snow. They are Vikings. They do live in Scandinavia in the raiding off season.).
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Once again, my messed up schedule won't allow me to watch tonight. I will have to DVR and watch tomorrow night.... (in the meantime I'll have to avoid this forum, I don't want to be spoiled)
Wish I had one of these to drink from whilst watching
Enjoy the finale tonight everyone ! I'm sure it will be phenomenal !
Just remember Vikings always runs late so if you have a recording device that records by time rather than a "pass" or whatever it is called be forewarned to add extra recording time. The show always runs 3 minutes late this season but who knows if it runs a bit longer for the finale.
(Think that was the bit we kept getting edited out last two seasons cause of extra commercials on American TV. Glad they ran it the extra few minutes this season).
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TAR in the Media
in The Amazing Race
Brian from the brothers team on TAR7 aka The Boston Rob Edition has done about a zillion commercials. His brother and TAR partner Greg was an extra in one of them even. Plus Brian was Penny's early dumb boyfriend on the Big Bang Theory.