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2 hours ago, pennben said:
There really is something about the Owen & Teddy stories that should be complementary but they just aren’t. Like you, I can’t stand Owen. I always liked Teddy just fine years ago, she wasn’t what I tuned in for, but fine. I truly don’t understand this story for last season or so, makes no sense to me.
I guess if they’d done a developed overtime story for Teddy, like they did for Owen, we’d have an interesting contrast between women war doctors v men war doctors and how they handled post-stress of it all & how we view each story and see what it says about us if we forgive/root for/hate which one.when did Vernoff leave originally from show? Is she trying to recreate something she had in mind originally that does NOT work now?
just noodling here.
She left early in Season 7. I have always suspected she had a disagreement with Shonda about the direction a few stories were going to go in. And specifically, I think, despite the line about Cristina in last night's episode, she didn't like the Crowen relationship, and ultimately wanted Owen with Teddy. And if I am right about that, I admit I agree with her. Cristina & Owen never made sense together.
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16 hours ago, DEL901 said:
All this “Allison = true love” bs bothers me. Maybe she was, but I think Teddie has a raging case of rose coloured glasses. They were friends. They had one perfect night (at least according to Teddie’s memory) declared their love and then Allison died. But that doesn’t mean their relationship would have lasted. Who knows if they would still be together. But unhappy Teddie looks back and sees the past as perfect because the present sucks. And maybe that’s why no one ever heard about Allison for years. It wasn’t until Teddie was miserable that she started looking back and idealizing that one moment in her life.
I don't think it's about her being her true love. It's survivor guilt.
Despite the show having Teddy stay for breakfast, and Allison die anyway from exposure to the ash/debris from the towers' collapse, Teddy's version is likely closer to the truth. In fact, had Teddy just stayed for the pancakes, Allison wouldn't have gotten close enough to the area to be exposed to anything. She'd have heard about the attacks before she left, and she'd have stayed home, so she would still be alive today... whether she & Teddy would've stayed together isn't the point, to Teddy. The point is, as far as Teddy is concerned, she is responsible for Allison's death, just as she sees herself as responsible for DeLuca's.There are numerous stories of people who have struggled with guilt since 9/11 because they were supposed to be there and because of a fluke, they weren't. This is the opposite... in Teddy's mind, Allison was NOT supposed to be there. In her head, Allison's idea to have pancakes was some kind of intuition to not be down there, and had Teddy just gone with it, Allison would've survived.
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And to top it off, how much better would it have been to have Teddy be bisexual back in when she was first on the show? Maybe if they had given Kim Raver this storyline in the context of grieving Henry's deatha, and done something with her, Arizona & Callie, the whole amputation story would've worked better! I'm not suggesting that Teddy & Arizona should've slept together. Just that the revelation would've added a layer to those friendships & she would've had built in story.
I always wondered why Teddy was so invested in Calzona. The potential was there & they blew it.
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@BaseOps - agree overall with your assessment.
The one thing I struggle with is where to put the firings of Sarah Drew & Jessica Capshaw in that context. Neither strike me as people who contributed to a toxic culture.
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I have multiple, contradictory thoughts about it all.
I absolutely get that Alex can’t abandon his kids. It’s 100% in keeping with his growth. The problem for me is his supposed love for Izzie. If he was staying despite the fact that he admits to everyone that he does NOT love Izzie, it makes sense to me.
The really bad, unnecessary part is that Alex sought her out, supposedly to help Meredith. There is not a darn thing Izzie, after all this time, could say that would have helped Mer. So really, he just wanted an excuse to look her up… THAT is the part that doesn’t work.
If they had written it that Izzie contacted HIM, because she thought her cancer was back, and she swore him to secrecy, THAT would’ve made sense. If it turned out that Izzie’s cancer was back, and at that point he realized he had to stay with her for the kids, to help her either get through it again, or to die with dignity, that would also make sense. To be noble, he still can send Jo divorce papers, so that Jo is free to be paired with someone else.
That said – Izzie was always his kryptonite. She acted like she was too good for him. Or at least he thought she was too good for him. So seeing her again, even in my scenario – I could see him deciding to stay even if they realized Izzie wasn’t going to die.The concept was actually right. The execution was wrong.
I do understand why the didn’t want to kill him off. If they go that route, you’ve got the problem that the Jo/Alex fans don’t want her to date, because she’s mourning. Now she can be angry and it’s ok to move on from him.
Also - I do NOT want Linc & Jo to become a couple. It isn't just because I love him with Amelia (although I do). The thing for me is that now, with Alex gone, we've lost a great male/female friendship. I know we still have Bailey & Richard, but it's different, because they didn't start out as peers. I love the relationship - don't get me wrong. The dynamic just isn't the same, though.
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The weird thing is that the one character on this show who makes Delilah tolerable to me is Gary. I honestly wonder if that's where he'll end up. They've managed to make a lot of fans root for Eddie & Katherine. And Gary/Delilah have a nice chemistry. Plus, the kids like him.
Maggie is definitely annoying. Only character I find worse is Delilah. I am shocked how much I've grown to love Katherine
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1 hour ago, statsgirl said:
The show is going to push the line that Teddy and Owen are the Truest Star-Crossed Lovers Ever, even Megan knew it, but they know each other so little in a romantic sense, they just appear shallow.
It's also a huge insult to Cristina, implying that Owen was only with her because he thought he didn't deserve Teddy. I'm ready for them both to leave.
I am in the minority. I always felt like Owen should've been with Teddy back in season 6. He and Cristina never made sense to me. She adamantly did not want kids. So the notion that he went the more torturous route rather than seeing who was right in front of him because he felt like he deserved to be in a relationship that ultimately was unfulfilling makes sense to me.
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@abc123 - don't forget; Callie & Arizona slept together the night before Callie walked out on her in the counsellor's office. Arizona thought Callie had forgiven her for the cheating (and to be fair, I think she had). Arizona was completely blindsided with Callie ended things in that office. So I think that's what they were hinting at, without going there directly.
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6 hours ago, jschoolgirl said:
Arizona went dashing off on her high heels at one point. Unfortunately I missed the recent episode where she actually mentioned the amputation. Is there anywhere I could see it?
Youtube. Just search Arizona & the season # and Episode #. I think it was #22. Actually, search for The JCappers, too... they're a group of AZ/JCap fans who post just her scenes on Youtube.
If you have trouble finding it, DM me & I'll get it. I have it saved somewhere.
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2 hours ago, kurtz said:
Meredith paraphrasing Cristina’s “He’s not the Sun - you are” for Alex w/r/t Jo was one of my favorite moments tonight.
I’m not going to lie - I thoroughly loved this finale. It moved quickly, the dialogue was crisp, and the comedic moments well played. I’m indifferent to Jolex, but enjoyed all their scenes this evening. Little things like all the April touches for the reception and Dahlia drinking punch whilst the other interns did shots added to my delight. I was pleased by all the outdoor settings, especially the ferry. I wept through the weddings, culminating in super ugly tears when I realized it was the Sara Ramirez version of “The Story” playing in the background.
I thought this season was strongest since 10 - maybe since Season 6. I said early on that Krista was tidying up the previous seasons’ messes, by doing her best to work in those previous storylines, instead of pretending like they never happened. I stand by that assessment, and look forward to season 15.
Overall, I agree with you. My two biggest complaints are as follows; As finales go, there weren't enough unanswered questions or cliffhangers to leave me on the edge of my seat & counting the days until the show returns in the fall. On some level, I think that was a mistake, especially this year, given how much fan anger there is regarding the firing of Jessica Capshaw & Sarah Drew. Angry fans need a reason to return, and I don't see Teddy doing that. In fact, there's a fair bit of anger about Teddy's return, because people are suggesting Vernoff chose her over Capshaw & Drew.
Were this just a regular episode of Grey's it would've been pretty much perfect. Loved the pacing. Loved the humour. Loved the acting from everyone. It was an all around entertaining hour of TV, a few flaws not withstanding.
I'm thrilled that it looks like Calzona are going to try again. The frustration for me is not knowing if Sara Ramirez wasn't on the episode because she said no, or because they didn't ask. i think it's a big plot hole that they didn't address why Calzona need to live in NY (as opposed to Seattle), given that Penny & Callie are over. It would've been easy, and it would've fleshed out the April/Webber/Arizona scene... have Arizona both say what she did about Callie, and also elaborate on how supportive Callie's being... that Callie might've returned to Seattle, but the project with Herman is now set to be in New York, so it's best for Arizona to be in New York. As Arizona's ambition always scared Callie, that kind of thing would show growth & strengthen the audience's hopes for Calzona's offscreen future.
I can't get over how much Alex & Jo have grown on me, individually & as a couple.
The bit with Bailey was predictable, but I'll take it.
I'm unsure what to think about Teddy being pregnant. It is just so damned cliched.
I'm in the minority in that I don't love JApril & I did love April/Matthew. It worked for me because I did think they laid groundwork for it earlier in the season.. like April telling the one girl she needs to accept the guy's prom proposal. I could see then they were going to imply that April took Matthew for granted.
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I want to add one more thing about the Arizona/Sofia story. I think I may have said that the difficulty with this story is that Sofia's actually not on the show much, because she's a child character, and the show isn't about the children. The show is about the adult characters & the children only matter to the extent that they figure in to the adult's stories. So you aren't going to actually SEE Sofia acting out at school, or even necessarily talking to Zola about this situation (though I do think it was a bit of a missed opportunity that we never got a Sofia/Zola scene). What they didn't do, which they could've done & which might've helped make the story seem less rushed, is have someone - April, Bailey... I don't care who - suggest a professional Arizona could go to for advice on the situation. A consult, as it were. ;) I wouldn't have needed to actually see a scene of her actually talking to said counsellor/child psychologist. Just a reference that she was considering it would've been sufficient.
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14 hours ago, moonorchid said:
Forgetting japril for a second, Matthew is the embodiment of things april has outgrown and to say that he’s the one for her feels like such a betrayal of who april is now. I don’t want her to die so if it has to be this way then so be it, but it solidifies to me that Krista doesn’t know who April Kepner became, only the April she knew back in season 7.
@moonorchid - would you elaborate please? I'm not sure what you mean by outgrown in this context. I'm not disagreeing with you - I'm genuinely unsure I understand your point.
I just saw @LaughingOne's post and I get it now. I only half agree. I think that if the point, though, was for April & Matthew to end up together, they made some mistakes in the execution of it.
I would argue that Matthew can't still be the same dorky, insecure, sweet guy you describe & we remember. In both JB's two episodes this season - where Karen dies & then when he brings Ruby to the hospital - I saw a bit more edge to the character, for sure. And certainly this season April's kept her snark/edginess that he developed after her time in the Middle East with Owen. If they do go the route of an April/Matthew reconciliation, for me the problem will be too much of it will have been off-screen If, when they knew that at the end of April's crisis of faith the plan was ultimately to have her with Matthew, they needed to bring Bruening into the show.And I completely agree that the Arizona departure has been written far too quickly. It makes me wonder when the decision really was made. At first I suspected the process of the decision around not renewing SD & JCap's contract was a bit longer & KV had been pondering it for a decent amount of time before she told them. Now I'm thinking the gap between when the decision was made & when the two were told was shorter than I suspected, resulting in these tacked on endings.
As tacked on & quick as Arizona's is, at least the groundwork for it was laid in the 200th episode, with Sofia's "I miss Mama," and Arizona's response of "I miss Mama too." At the time I think they were still working to convince Sara to return for Season 15, though.
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I really hope April doesn't die.
I have also reached the point where I hope the person she's been seeing is Matthew. While I know it will drive JApril fans to even more anger than they already have, at this point they may as well go with the idea I tried to express elsewhere - I can't remember which thread it was but probably this one - that April's realizing that she made a mistake marrying Jackson/leaving Matthew. They've hinted at that in various scenes for a while anyway.I'm likening April & Matthew to this old Collin Raye song...
Not That Different
She said we're much too different
We're from two separate worlds
And he admitted she was partly right
But in his heart's defense he told her
What they had in common
Was strong enough to bond them for life
He said look behind your own soul
And the person that you'll see
Just might remind you of meShe could hardly argue
With his pure and simple logic
But logic never could convince a heart
She had always dreamed of loving someone more exotic
And he just didn't seem to fit the part
So she searched for greener pastures
But never could forget
What he whispered when she leftI laugh, I love, I hope, I try
I hurt, I need, I fear, I cry
And I know you do the same things, too
So we're really not that different, me and youWas it time or was it truth
Maybe both lead her back to his door
As her tears fell at his feet
She didn't say "I love you"
What she said meant even moreI laugh, I love, I hope, I try
I hurt, I need, I fear, I cry
And I know you do the same things, too
So we're really not that different, me and you=======
Now, I know the first verse doesn't really work; in fact it almost describes Jackson more. The thing is, though, I really do think what made April choose Jackson was the sheer romance of being swept away by this big declaration from him. There is something about Jackson that is so much more exotic & exciting than reliable, predictable, slightly dull yet sweet, earnest Matthew. That's not to say Jackson's not a good guy - he is. Just not necessarily the right good guy for April.
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9 hours ago, lorbeer said:
I didn't think that way, frankly I didn't think about Arizona's situations at all, but I agree with what you said. It's on them to makes things right not on the child. It's though when parents split up... For one time I feel for Carina - she did nothing wrong, Arizona didn't stop loving her and yet they won't be together because of a child and what's best 'for the child'. I think it's tough to fall in love with people who already have kids - not because children are a burthen, but because something like that can happen. There are two people in love and they can't be together... The situation also shows what the parent love really mean. It's beautiful and sad at the same time..
The difficulty I have with this take on the story is that I don't buy the notion that Carina & Arizona have actually fallen in love. What they have is really good sex and not much else. Carina's only marginally more likeable that Eliza, so I can't muster up a lot of empathy for her in this situation. The one I feel badly for is Sofia, because she's 7, and it sucks to feel like you basically have to pick one parent over the other when you want to have both. I give Arizona credit for realizing that regardless of whether she & Callie actually end up together eventually, for Sofia's welfare they have to figure out a way to be living close enough for them to co-parent/have as close to joint custody as possible, because right now, when Sofia is with one, she misses they other, and at 7, she's not emotionally equipped to sort through all that.
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3 hours ago, Tierney said:
I’m starting to agree with this. It looks like there are two separate “injured” scenes - one in ER, one in OR. Maybe the blonde intern is gravely injured? Maybe April’s “death” scene is some type of dream sequence? Or, maybe I’ve unknowingly eaten one of Grey’s special cookies?
I quite like the blonde intern so I hope they don't have her die.
SpoilerAlso given that they now some to be thinking she may be either a lesbian or bisexual, I think it's less likely they'll kill her. A friend of mine thinks she's gay & has a crush on Meredith.
LOL - I think I just misused/wasted the use of the spoiler tag. Grrr.
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I was going to say something about the latest Ellen interview, but @LaughingOne pretty much said what I was thinking. I will add that Pompeo did totally oversimplify things. There were a lot of calm, intelligent, respectful tweets directed at her & KV criticizing both the decision & how the announcement was handled. The reality is Ellen basically started this by getting defensive before anyone even started tweeting her, because she didn't like the Deadline reference suggesting that the firings were budgetary vs story dictated, and they tied it to her raise. That would've been fine, but she didn't even acknowledge anything about JCap & Sarah. She just was totally focussed on defending herself. Had she not gone that route to begin with, she might well have saved herself from experiencing so much of the negativity that she received.
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@BaseOps - I totally agree with you! As much as I'm frustrated by the decision to fire these two actresses, I can't deny the things that Vernoff has done to improve the show. She's actually got me liking Jo! She's actually gotten decent work out of Camilla Luddington. Some of the stories she wrapped up needed to be wrapped up. Season 13 was a mess. Totally stagnant.
That all said;
-I hated Amelia's brain tumour
-I hated the ending of the Paul story.
-I thought the Bailey/Ben argument dragged out too long, that Bailey often looked childish, and frankly, as fantastic as the heart attack episode was, reducing it to "Bailey's scared that Ben's new job is too dangerous' was a cop-out.
And those thoughts are just for starters.
One thing about Vernoff: She's old school. She fully believes, it seems, that it's not her job to listen to fan bases, or fan mail or the like. She's got a vision and if people come along for the ride, great. If they don't, oh well... she's not going to veer from her vision. Now, in the old days of TV where it wasn't particularly easy to quickly gauge fan reaction, that made more sense. But things have changed & to an extent, TV's become a more interactive media, and show runners have to find some kind of balance that allows for them to bend their creative visions to take into account an analysis of how what they're presenting is being received. By the same token, you also have to trust yourself to some extent, too. It's about finding a balance between holding on to your core vision yet also listening & observing as to how your vision is being received.-
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On 4/20/2018 at 10:43 AM, BaseOps said:
I highly doubt a Calzona reunion is in the cards. There's just no way to make it work without Sara coming back / it'd be way too fast to have the story make sense. They've been separated for years, both are in relationships, and they have way too much baggage to work through with Callie being offscreen, etc. I do think we'll likely see Arizona move to (or closer to) New York, but I imagine it will be for a job opportunity and it will just so happen to be luckily closer to Callie for Sofia's sake.
I think it could go either way. I get what people mean about Mer/Der, and the whole 'Grey's not being about romance,' but by the same token... Shonda has an EGO. She loves the plaudits she got for Calzona. She kept their wedding topper. I think she's genuinely invested in making them endgame. Plus they will want to try to do damage control with fans after firing JCap. So while I'm not sure that we'll get a Doug/Carol type thing, I'm not ruling it out, either. My instinct is we get Calzona together in the series finale rather than now, but I'm keeping an open mind as to what he possibilities are.
If my posts on this topic seem inconsistent, it's because they are. ;) I honestly can't decide what I think is going to happen.
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I basically agree with @BaseOps.
In many ways I do think the show is structurally better than it was in the last few seasons. In fact, maybe better than it's been since Vernoff left. The problem is that's not necessarily saying much given I'm not sure I care about some of the core stories & characters. Meredith is actually the least interesting character on the canvas for me. I hate the idea of losing Jessica Capshaw & Sarah Drew so that Ellen Pompeo's desire to prove she can be the central character on a show & have everyone revolve around her ( the notion of Mer as 'The Sun). And I base that on comments EP herself made... she compared herself to Viola Davis & Kerry Washington (How To Get Away With Murder, Scandal, respectively) and stated that she is just as capable of being the centre of a show & she resents that people think she can't do it. So my instinct is that's what the dismissal of JCap & Sarah Drew is about... April's presence will make folks want JApril. Arizona, despite the plane crash & being a hospital owner, just isn't well integrated within Meredith's circle.
I've come to the conclusion that had Vernoff remained with the show, we would likely never have gotten the Jackson/April pairing. She clearly never viewed them that way. Heck, a part of me wonders if, were it up to her, Sarah Drew wouldn't have been brought back... that the decision to have April be rehired & bring Drew back in Season 6 was 100% a Shonda Rhimes decision. There have been multiple times where I've had the sense that the show has been hinting at the idea of April regretting walking away from Matthew. So if they were to retcon it & try to tell us that she's come to realize that Matthew was 'The One' all along, but she just got caught up in the, I don't know... glamour of Jackson... I could see it. Matthew is the 'nice' guy next door type. The nerdy guy from high school that got overlooked. Jackson's also a decent guy, but he's kinda the captain of the football team. The BMOC. He's just so different than the type of guy she would've grown up being taught to see herself with. They're from two different worlds. Anyway, that's what I can see Vernoff thinking.
I can't help feeling that Vernoff is also a Callie/Arizona fan. Now, I know I'm a Callie/Arizona fan, so I'm biased. But she keeps throwing things into the dialogue that strongly suggest that Arizona isn't so much deeply invested in Carina or in love with Carina, so much as she just doesn't do well alone, she's lonely, and Carina's available... along the lines of "If you can't have the one you love, love the one you can have." So for me, it would be stupid to let Carina leave with Arizona. If Vernoff wanted them together, just keep Capshaw on the canvas & move their story forward. I'm not suggesting that Callie & Arizona should magically be clearly getting back together in/by the finale. I'm suggesting the show would be wise to give us the suggestion that it's on the horizon. Given how highly Sara Ramirez & Jessica Capshaw still speak of Shonda Rhimes, I still think that once a firm end date is set for Grey's, they'll be willing to come & do an episode or two that allows us to see how their characters ended up. Basically, they could have Calzona show up together & give us flashbacks to show how they reconciled.
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1 hour ago, TVForever said:
Except that she was brought to the US as a small child. Even if her family had come legally and "overstayed", that passport would have long ago expired. I think this is just one of those pesky little details that we're just supposed to ignore for the sake of the story. I'm just glad they gave her a good sendoff, although I wouldn't have minded DeLuca going with her.
Forgive me... confused Canadian chiming in...
I thought the point of DACA, when Obama introduced it/made it law was that these kids & their families were legally in the country. Given that, wouldn't they have been able to get legal passports at the time? Trump didn't DACA that long ago.Mind you, I also thought that the courts had postponed the ending of DACA due to a legal challenge of some sort.
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On 3/30/2018 at 10:24 AM, izabella said:
I'm not convinced that Owen and Teddy are done. This is the first time Teddy has shown him the door. That might just be what really wakes him up and gives him reason to do some introspection. I think if he does that, and then goes back to Teddy and pursues her the way she has pursued him in the past, she'll open the door again.
Agreed, at least in part because I'm pretty sure Kim Raver is signed until the end of the season.
And in the end I suspect Amelia will be pregnant & that'll finally be the end of Owen & Teddy.
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4 hours ago, BaseOps said:
She was hired over the summer, long after season 13 had wrapped and literally months after the writing would have been done. I mean clearly she's a Jaggie fan as it was her choice to continue the storyline this year, but she wasn't there at the end of last year so its inception had nothing to do with her.
Regarding April / Jackson last season, I always found it odd that that episode was ever billed as a 'Japril' episode when there was nothing romantic about it other than them having sex at the end (which the writers then literally ignored for the rest of the season until Vernoff had April address it in early S14). "Japril The Sequel" was much more a Jackson-centric episode where April happened to be the supporting player who was present.
Although she was hired over the summer, I still believe there had to have been talks well before that. I really sense she had some input over the last few episodes.
If she had not been hired, I think that Jackson & Maggie, while it may still have happened, would not have been endgame. But Vernoff never saw JApril as a romantic couple & so she's taken the story in a different direction. While I don't necessarily like it, I do respect her right, as the show runner, to make that choice.
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14 hours ago, Scatterbrained said:
Except that the network will have to pick up the show for that to happen, and with Shonda leaving for Netflix, and Ellen’s big payday, plus all of her big talking around the big payday, they might not.
Kate Burton might come back. I don’t think anyone else will. The more distance between Sandra Oh and the show, the more she seems to be glad it’s over.
@Scatterbrained - I'm not following you re the network not picking up the show. They wouldn't have given Pompeo if they were considering cancelling this show after this season. They can't afford that. It will get the 2 years of Ellen's deal, if only to beat ER.
And they'll want the hype of bringing back faves for the finale. No point in beating ER and making the end a dud. @funnygirl is totally right about that.
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5 minutes ago, Joana said:
I do think it's a bit of both. They'd probably remain on the show if all went swimmingly well on the financial side, but the way both characters have been written for quite a while now made sure they'd be easy to dispose off if cuts ever needed to be made. Arizona hasn't had a proper ongoing storyline that the writers were seriously committed to in ages, there was just a bunch of random stuff thrown in that never went anywhere. It got so bad to the point that no one even knows what exactly her job is anymore. April is just so detached from everyone that even when she does get a storyline of her own and gets to be in spotlight for a change, it just makes it even more obvious how alone and constantly overlooked she is.
I'm not saying it was completely intentional, but it's pretty clear that for whatever reason the writing team couldn't or wouldn't make an effort to come up with interesting storylines for these two AND integrate them properly with the rest of the cast. And when you factor in the fact that these two actresses make a lot of money and the expenses need to be cut down - it's easy to guess what happens next.
Exactly... it's the way the various factors came together that created the decision, versus any one thing. In this day & age it's a terrible idea, imo, to get rid of the disabled lesbian & one of the few devout Christians on TV - and the irony is on the same day KV was tweeting something about the fact that there's still a dearth of LGBT representation - but they're focussed on their bottom line(s).
They could have allowed Arizona to develop a new, serious relationship post Callie. Male characters are allowed to do that. Sam was very serious with a woman as Private Practice was ending, yet they still managed to find a way to get him back to Naomi in the final episode. They could have done the same with Arizona - they simply chose not to be bothered to try. Instead they put her in two relationships that were awful, then turned around & whined that people compared those relationships negatively to Calzona. Gee, ya think? Minnick was practically the equivalent of Hahn, and Carina is a bi stereotype.
1 minute ago, Catznip said:The show was done 2 seasons ago.
Touche. I meant done as in cancelled. Ellen ain't getting another 2 year deal like this one, and then she'll be done. She'll have proved what she wanted to prove, they'll have beaten ER, and they'll sign off.
Wonder who comes back for guest appearances in the final season/final episode.
S18.E01: Here Comes the Sun
in Grey's Anatomy
I like Teddy & Owen, if I'm honest. They should've been the couple from the get-go.
I don't think they are going to pair Jo & Linc romantically. I think he'll get involved with Megan, who is going to be around a while. And I'm not convinced Linc & Amelia are done for good.