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B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Absolutely railroading Katie and Brooke (!) into being clueless moralizers like it's 1980 isn't going to make me like Saints Ridge and Steffy instead. It makes me not want to watch. JFC. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Kind of true to character albeit pathetic (which, is also true to character) that Ridge does this kind of "ultimatum" knowing what the answer's going to be. As much as most of us think Brooke is WAY underselling this, she's not outright kissing his ass anymore so he's done with her. But the big tough guy can't come right out and say it, he needs an out to show he's the victim as always. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
I also think Hope is MEANT to come off as the deranged bad guy here getting a temporary win. And Carter too, although maybe worse bc he's barely allowed any agency and looks like her "victim". Like yeah, it doesn't come of as believable that this is for the good of the company. Guys, you're doing this to fuck over Ridge and Steffy. Except that I can't stand those two to the point that I'm absolutely here for it. For some reason today I remembered when Steffy got named CEO a few years back, 50 something year old Ridge couldn't even be happy for her and had to throw a temper tantrum so that he got half the role himself. The guy is that much of a pissant loser that when shit REALLY gets real, that's how he treats his actual daughter, so I can't expect much of him re: Hope. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
This wasn't really a main point of the show today, but Carter betraying the "brotherly" relationship he supposedly had with Ridge is such a dud, because IMO it never came off like that all. With the caveat of being an on (and mostly off) again viewer the last couple of years, the combination of LSV and TK's acting plus the story limitations made it seem that Carter was a well liked but not particularly respected employee. Although in a way it is in line with TK's Ridge that he would look down on someone all the while acting like he was doing them a favor. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Wait, Ridge "should have known" that Carter was a sleaze when he slept with his dad's wife, but St.Carter's downfall somehow ALL started with Hope? Figured that one out all by himself? I truly do not understand what is supposed to be the appeal of Brooke and Ridge at this point. They don't do anything. They certainly aren't the rare legacy couple gives "still in love" vibes. He only tolerates her when she's glazing him, so is it that all the Steffy/Ridge stans are demanding he get to act like a big bad ass misogynist or they'll stop watching? I mean there is a story that I've been waiting on for years, which is for her to go nuclear on his ass for the way he treats her daughter. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Shut up Ridge. I mean yes, Carter is a putz, but I can't stand hearing it come from Ridge's gross ass. And of course he has plot armor so he can run his mouth to anyone like a tough guy and never get push back. -
Wow. This one hurts. When TC was at his best, I found Nikolas to be such a compelling, charismatic character. I felt like I was on that journey of trying to figure out a place in the world given a weird family situation right there with him, and TC is what made that possible. I really think the man was extremely talented as a performer, legit one of the best in the show's history when he was "on". NGL I also wanted to see him back on GH one day. This is is terrible- God bless him and his family.
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Weird how Bill framed it as Israel being trouble for Democrats in 2024. Trump is the guy complimenting Hezbollah and calling the Israelis stupid. Down ballot...maybe? It's mostly the usual squad members making the most noise right now in terms of actual elected national officials. But Biden is overwhelmingly pro Israel-to the hatred of a lot of people on the left right now- and Bill doesn't even acknowledge that.
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B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Big surprise that someone literally stalking you would take a golden opportunity to look good. I wish the show could have Li on it without Finn. I'm not sure it's like classically great acting, but she feels very much like a real person which IMO is more important. Sheila is basically going to keep stinking up the show with "master villain" plot lines for years on end, right? She's honestly ok in one off stories, but this ain't Rena Sofer, who actually made me want to watch a deranged character. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Erstwhile viewer who begrudgingly got a curious about the Lope break up. The good side of things is that from what I've seen, they're really giving Hope a good rationale for why she's handling it the way she is. It makes you look back on all the insecurity and unease that marriage rested on, from both Liam's waffling and Hope's childhood with Brooke that she's talked about. At least on THIS point, it's actual good writing here. Plus they're lucky to have AN- she's playing this as hurt but with newfound strength SO well. I just can't with Thomas. I doubt I can ever see this character as anything but a creep, because the "reformed" version just comes off as nice guy creep. The only time I ever bought that the character had legit non obsessive feelings towards someone was PF's version with Sally at the beginning (and that might have been Courtney Hope working her magic more than anything). And dude straight up abused up his kid and kept Hope thinking her daughter was freaking dead. I can buy that this is Hope working through a bunch of crazy feelings and it's an outlet or something, but I'm noping TF out f this is actually meant to be some kind of Tru Love LT couple. -
I couldn't say if 1999 was as good as the show ever was, but at least the last time it had a certain level of quality that it hasn't regained since. Looking back at clips, the drop off between 1999 and 2000 is huge.
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Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Is this soap just that low on funds? IDK why it hit me especially today, but these sets are beyond awful. I'm already expected to believe things like Billy being a charming rogue, or Nick managing to put his underwear inside his pants. So I just can't with every meeting having to happen at Society (which looks like a 3 star hotel side lounge), and the Glum Club...which, 🤢 . If they were staging kindergarten graduations there, fine. Otherwise... I literally can't suspend disbelief to imagine these are serious locations. Were Top of the Tower and the GCAC somehow too expensive? They actually looked decent and realistic. Kyle sucks. St. Dick-less is the "superior brother"? Does he know how many times he f'ed over Jack? My girl Lola keeps perpetually dodging a bullet on this one. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Yeah, I was thinking exactly this. I don't want her with either of them. Daniel and his creepy game obsession (as of now) seems like a redux of Buttbiscuit with his Chelsea morality pet project. Which means of course Lily will blunder right into it. Chick wasn't even wearing pants today. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
I'm gonna wind up hate watching this POS thanks to you guys. Jerks. 😊 In that spirit, the lowlife- whoops, I mean lowlight- of the day I think was Abby's smug look at Chance. So she was all offended about and even *denied* spending more time with Devon, whennnn....she just fucked the guy. Again. Yeah, Chance was so off point here 🙄 Wait no, all that said, the lowlife is Victor. The answer is always Victor, holy shit what a scumbag. I hope his relationship with Adam is ruined forever. Like that'd be what would/should happen when the "father" is that horrific, and Adam would be way better off for it. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
JNavarro replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
This scared me. Because I seriously thought it meant Phyllis was going to strip off that coat/kimono/whatever thing in an attempt to seduce someone. I think this has been bulding up for a while now, but I'm realizing there is zero to root for on this show right. I'm hating just about everyone at this point, so might be time for a little break.