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I think if I were on the show, I'd assume they'd never choose Rob to be a traitor because he's so obvious. It would be interesting (but not preferable!) to watch this show without knowing who the traitors are. It's likely that some things only seem super obvious to us because we have that knowledge. I feel like we've seen this on the show before and while it's frustrating, I kind of get it! When you know you're a faithful, and there's not really any evidence that you're a traitor, what more can you say, other than asserting that you're not a traitor over and over? It would be hard to mount a counter argument against "You were in a coffin" and Chrishell's vague spidey sense. We don't know how long the interrogation actually went on, but at a certain point I'd likely just stop fighting as well.

Oh my gosh, this is why I come onto the message boards! You're so right! Why didn't I clock this?! I realize that things work differently in the Mormon world, but it would be super odd for Gwen's dad to get Bronwyn pregnant and then, in the span of nine months, 1) break up with her; 2) marry someone else; and 3) pass away. Like, it's technically possible but that's such a short timeline! And Bronwyn's dad only left one message for Gwen's grandparents, alerting them to Gwen's existence? You'd think for something that important, you'd ensure that the person got the message? Why are they so confident he did get the message? I agree, there is so much information missing here. ETA: Okay wait, I see from the interwebs now that he actually died when Gwen was a toddler. So, perhaps more of a plausible timeline.

But the texas were not just mims!

It may sound extreme but when Lisa shared that story about nobody wanting to come to her sweet son's birthday party, I clocked her as a sociopath with no boundaries. Who shares that information about heir kid for the world's entertainment? Side note: I adore Henry. I also adore Elektra. I kind of wish we could have a palate cleanser miniseries that's just the two of them meeting new reptiles.

This is what I'm saying! "Is Kyle Richards actually that dumb?" really is the $64,000 question here. Because here are the options: DOOR #1: Yes, she's that dumb. And maybe that's the answer! But, while I'm not saying Kyle Richards is a nuclear physicist, she never struck me as particularly dumb either, especially on a social level. She's basically run this show for a long time. On the other hand, maybe "dumb" isn't the right word. Perhaps, growing up the way she did, she missed out on learning some of the social cues/social norms the rest of us did -- which is why she apparently thinks it's an okay practice to just ghost her friends for months when she's upset with them. DOOR #2: No, she's not that dumb, but she showed it to fuel drama and maintain her spot on the show (and, if that's the case, she's a better actress than I had realized! *golf clap*) DOOR #3: She does realize it's a damning text, but as soon as the matter of texas came up she worried PK might leak this one, and wanted to get in front of it..... ....But that doesn't even make sense, because she is the one who brought up PK's texas to Garcelle in the first place. Why even mention that?? I am befuddled.

It's really not okay. It's not funny or cute. I'm a RHW superfan, but the casual sexual harassment of service workers has to be my least favorite thing about these shows. It actually pisses me off. Like, how have we not moved past this?!

I don't usually find Andy amusing. However, he had me cackling when they were talking about Angie being a backup dancer in Jen Shah's video, and they had discussing it for a while when Andy confusedly piped up, "Does Jen Shah have a music video?" Just his delivery of that line had me rolling! It was very much an "*Andy has entered the chat*" type of moment.

Oh, that's an option? Oh yes, that! Definitely that.

In the matter of Kyle v. Dorit, I guess I'm Team Dorit - though, I also loathe Dorit, so it's hard to get too worked up either way. That said, I want to say three things slightly in defense of Kyle. (I know! I KNOW!). 1 - I think it's possible that Kyle and Dorit were saying two different things in their conversation. Kyle was saying "PK doesn't [present tense] talk to me about his relationship with you" and Dorit was saying that he has in the past - at least, back when Mau lived with Kyle (which was, like, at least a year ago by the time the conversation was taking place, I think?). And I actually think this is a fair distinction to make. 2 - The Texas is incredibly damning but... why share it?!? This is what I keep coming back to. Why would you share a text that makes it seem like you're chatting with your friend's ex about her? Especially after saying that you had only exchanged memes and jokes?? One possibility I guess is that Kyle really isn't chatting with PK about Dorit, so it didn't occur to her that the text would be taken that way. Another possibility is that Kyle is a fucking idiot. A third possibility is that she expected PK to leak the text and wanted to get in front of it. A fourth possibility is that she wants to maintain her spot on the show and is consciously creating drama. A potpourri of possibilities! 3 - Her hair looked phenomenal at the spa day. Whatever illegal keratin process she's using these days, I want on board.

I believe you are referring to "texas" and "mims"? Right?! I half expected Kyle to run into a bush. I think you answered your own question in the last sentence. :)

Kyle: "I just want to say one thing and then I'm leaving." Boz, in unconvincing, Willy Wonka-esque affect: "No...please...don't."

It will be interesting to see where Kyle goes from here. To state the obvious, Garcelle and Sutton are not her real friends. Kyle has poked Sutton one too many times, and Garcelle never liked Kyle -- she's just tenuously aligned with Kyle right now because she hates Dorit more. Dorit and Kyle: not friends. Boz: on Dorit's side. All Kyle has right now is Erika-- who is only out for herself. Almost all of this is Kyle's own doing. We've never seen a Kyle on RHOBH who wasn't buffered by allies, so I for one am interested to see how this unfolds.

Like, from the way Kyle initially described the exchanges between PK and herself, I was on her side! I could see how if I had been accustomed to exchanging memes with my friend's [or ex-friend's or whatever] husband, and then he continued to send me memes after they had broken up, I might just continue to respond with laughing-crying emojis or whatever, because I am non-confrontational and that would be easier than making it A Whole Thing by saying "I will no longer respond to these memes out of loyalty to Dorit."

I'd still feel hurt if I were in Dorit's shoes. And I sure as heck think Kyle would be pissed if Dorit did the same thing with Mauricio. But again, the appalling part is not that Kyle texted PK -- which is her right -- but rather that she completely lied about the nature of the texts.

If I were going through a breakup, and I found out my good girlfriend had reached out to my ex and said "I'm still your friend and you can tell me anything and I'll never betray your confidence," I would be hurt! I get that Kyle was friends with them both, but she was more Dorit's friend, and that's got to sting. Of course, Kyle has every "right" to pick PK's side, or to say she's not going to pick a side, if that's what she wants. To me, the bigger issue is that Kyle claimed not to do that. She called herself a "girl's girl" and claimed she was only exchanging memes and emojis with PK. Reaching out to someone and saying you'll always be their friend and that you'll never betray their confidence is a far cry from what she was insinuating! Also, the whole "How could Dorit think I would do anything inappropriate?!" is such a fucking red herring. ("Such a fucking red herring, Camille!") I don't think Dorit, or anyone else, believes that Kyle is having some sort of steamy affair with PK....hold on, throwing up a little...... Nobody is claiming that, Kyle!

I was shocked by how different Kyle looked in the "You're such a fucking liar, Camille" flashback. (Which, can I just say? I have a neighbor named Camille, and she is a lovely person, but every. time. I say her name, I hear Kyle's voice in my head calling her a "fucking liar"?? I digress...).

I’m fascinated by the women on the show, and the posters here, who find it odd to be asked to take off their shoes at someone’s house! I’d say that more often than not when I enter someone’s house I’m asked to remove my shoes. Meanwhile, my house is “shoe optional” which seems to thoroughly confuse people. 😂 I wear my shoes because I have foot issues, but I always make my kids take theirs off and leave them in the rack by the door, mainly because otherwise they’ll fling them all over the house and won’t be able to find them when they need them. Visitors can do whatever makes them more comfortable! it would be interesting to see an analysis of shoeless (not toothless) practices by age/race/socioeconomic status/etc.

I’m still trying to wrap my mind around Kyle’s reasons for sharing that text. Did she honestly think it exonerated her? Was she worried that PK would leak it and she was trying to get in front of it?

Garcelle’s delivery of the lesbian line had me cackling like a loon. I was watching with my headphones on while my kids were in the room and they were like, “Mom, what’s going on? Are you okay?!” 😂😂😂

Eh, it's not the rule in my house but I know plenty of people who do this and for some of them it's cultural.

I'm not that keyed into the Survivor universe, though I'd heard of Boston Rob. The way the contestants on Traitors discuss him, I thought he must be some insanely great game player. So I looked at his Wiki, and it... does not read like the bio of someone who is an insanely great game player? Folks more familiar with him, am I missing something here? Wikipedia: "He placed tenth in the show's fourth season Survivor: Marquesas, finished as the runner-up to his eventual wife Amber Brkich in the show's eighth season Survivor: All-Stars, came in 13th place in the show's 20th season Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains, won the show's 22nd season Survivor: Redemption Island, returned for the show's 39th season Survivor: Island of the Idols as a mentor for the new players alongside Sandra Diaz-Twine, and came in 17th place in the show's 40th season Survivor: Winners at War. Mariano is the first contestant to appear on Survivor six times, and play five times. He also competed on The Amazing Race twice alongside his wife, where they placed second and eighth."

Ugh, true. I don't think that challenge really gave the opportunity for individuals to shine, though, since there was so much guesswork to it and the folks outside couldn't help the folks inside.

Oh, man. So, I was a huge fan of Bob the Drag Queen on Drag Race, and I was so excited to see him as part of the cast and then tickled pink when he was selected to be a traitor. That said, his behavior as a traitor was not a good look and he became extremely unlikable to me. On the other hand, at least he was entertaining, and now we're stuck with three traitors who are neither likable nor entertaining. I feel like I don't have anybody to root for. Ho hum. I'd love to see Boston Rob get picked off and then the women recruiting someone like Dolores or one of the Bambis. Hopefully they have more challenges coming up that aren't just about brute strength. It would be interesting to give an opportunity for contestants who aren't just giant dudes to shine. I've always been partial to "What's missing from this room?" and "How well do you know your competitors?" type challenges, but maybe that's because I'm a giant nerd. I felt awful for Bob H. during the challenge. I know that they have to be medically cleared to participate, but he looked like hell, and I was half worried he was going to have a medical episode right then and there. Finally, I'm just going to miss hearing contestants say "Bob the Drag Queen." There's just something that tickles me about that fun, silly name being said in such a serious way.

I'd say that about some of the other franchises (NJ, NYC) but I feel like SLC really brings it in a new way each season and has a good mix of women, each of whom plays her own distinct role. Like, every time I start to think Meredith is deadwood, she busts out with "huhuzzbin" or "You. Can. LEAVE." There's actually nobody I'd remove at this point (other than Britani, but she doesn't count), and that's rare!

All of this, plus Britani’s text about not having Mary over for tea, plus Mary’s reaction to that, had me wiping tears from my eyes I was laughing so hard.