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  1. On 7/6/2016 at 2:34 AM, paramitch said:

    Last but not least, I still think that Daya was the wrong choice to pick up the gun. I think it should have been Maritza, Taystee or even Sophia -- someone really, directly wronged this season by the guards and institution actively supporting their crimes.


    I think that Daya picking up the gun is actually more powerful because it's a bit less personal. The other ladies have been, as you say, personally wronged, dehumanized by the guards and the prison. However, I think the fact that Daya, who's been relatively under the radar until her mother left, demonstrates that the poor conditions can take their toll on anyone/everyone. You don't have to be forced to eat a mouse, etc. to feel the abuse. They all see it, they all feel it and they're all frustrated by what's happening, to some degree. I also think it shows just how much she's slipping since her mother left. Even though her mother was not very motherly, she's all Daya knew as a mother and she misses her presence.

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  2. On 6/27/2016 at 3:18 PM, hincandenza said:

    Exactly; he's Rain Man at this point, he's so lopsided in his tech genius and everything-else stupidity.  He's even less functional than BigHead, who at this point is written as basically a moron.

    And didn't he assume that he'll be CEO of the New Pied Piper? Did I misread that? (That sounds right for Richard) I confess I watched this episode half-heartedly because the show has been draining away my will to keep watching through the season.

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  3. 3 hours ago, mwell345 said:

    I see SI apparently had second thoughts about using the American flag draped around nude Caitlyn.  The response was so negative, I'm glad someone over there paid attention.

    I think the cover is fine. I don't want to pick apart her outfit or how she looks in it because I don't like to do that to anyone (nor do I want them doing it to me). I don't know if it was negative response or if SI pulled a cynical marketing ploy to build buzz over the cover, but I'm happy everyone took the classy route. I don't like Jenner, but if she's going to be on the cover of SI, I understand the timing and appreciate that they avoided the cheap grab when it came time to do the deed.

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  4. 2 hours ago, questionfear said:

    I thought they said they get more $$ if the vet has been out of work for more than a year. Which would also make sense that these vets are a bit...off, since they're all able bodied and don't appear to have any physical issues, but they clearly have major psychological problems. And if those problems include needing a certain degree of order, or being drawn towards violence, those would also explain their being out of work AND why they were attracted to a low paying prison guard job. 

    I did a bit of work with a veterans group and I learned that there is somewhat of a stigma attached to Iraq combat veterans, especially if they've been diagnosed as PTSD, which is why there are hiring incentives (the Obama administration has really pushed that). I think part of it is sometimes a veteran does act out - such as the man on Mt. Rainier on New Years Eve several years ago - and it leads people to question their volatility. People refer to them as "unhinged," "crazy," "violent," etc., and to be sure, some do act out that way, but a minority of the people who served that are in that group. The negative publicity, the stories about what went on in places like the Iraqi prison - all of these things can add up and hurt a combat vet's employment prospects, right or wrong.

    I know two people who served in the Iraq conflict. One suffered multiple traumatic brain injuries; he cannot concentrate on anything. Choosing a shirt can take three hours because he forgets what he's doing and literally zones out. So no, he's not real employable anywhere. The other didn't suffer any injuries but experienced dodging IEDs and watching people die (don't know what he did specifically) and though I think he has some PTSD (to the point where he will swerve to miss a plastic bag on the street when he's driving, because he learned you had to avoid any road "obstacles" in Iraq), he's fine - continuing military service, great career and will have no trouble adjusting in the civilian world when he gets out. I don't know if he'll face many of the obstacles combat veterans face when he gets out; I sense not because he's continued his service well beyond his time in combat, so it won't be the defining part of his service.

    So I think the military service angle comes into play with the hiring benefit to the company - MCC. It doesn't matter who the employer is, or who it's employing; it's up to the company to do due diligence when it hires. In this case, MCC is hiring guards to watch over and protect women and so it seems to me a standard background check and proper training is in order, regardless of whether the employee is prior military or not.

    Piscatella may be a great employee somewhere else, but he's not suitable for prison work and he's certainly not suitable for MCC. His military background (if he is a vet) doesn't have anything to do with whether he's a good guard at this point. It's about his personality, and he likes control - absolute control and authority, it appears - and that makes him a dangerous guard.

    As for why the veterans are attracted to low-paying guard jobs . . . they may have a difficult time finding work based on the above (being viewed as a potentially unstable hire), they may not have many marketable skills or they may be attracted to jobs that will put them in control/give them authority over someone. They may also feel it will give them some element of order. Plus, free housing helps.

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  5. 42 minutes ago, RCharter said:

    Isn't the female guard a war vet?  She doesn't seem like the worst, she just seems like she is trying to keep her head down.

    I don't have a read on her. She's the one that offered to use her interrogation methods on the inmates (which is when Caputo issued his no interrogation directive), yet she'd just been trying to yuk it up with the ladies (very awkwardly). But she also didn't think they should be allowed to dance the night they kept the lights on - she was upset at the lack of order, I guess (?)

    It may be that she's not really developed as a character or it may be that it's intentional and she's kind of a victim of MCC's lack of training program/boundaries/standards, so she's all over the map with what's appropriate and what is not. Maybe we'll find out more about her next year. Whatever the case, she surely isn't in the same league as some of her peers, however she hasn't demonstrated that she'll speak up or act when she sees something obviously messed up happening. I can't remember if she said anything to Bailey when he was manhandling Poussey.

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  6. 5 minutes ago, Rinaldo said:

    Actually, this felt an awful lot like a series finale. This is how you'd end it. Except that they're renewed for next season. So I don't know where they're going. I do know that my love for Richard keeps going. 

    Really? It has another season? I can't figure out how. I did not expect this ending and when it played out like it did, I figured it meant it was the end of the series. It would have been the right ending, imo.

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  7. 1 hour ago, Kel Varnsen said:

    It would have been nice I thought to see a few more ex-military guards who aren't worse than any of the criminals.

    I was kind of thinking about that. I wonder if any veterans' groups will have something to say about the portrayal of the guards. To be sure, there are more than enough soldiers suffering from PTSD from the recent conflicts, however this isn't doing them any favors. Perhaps it's to make MCC look especially bad, willing/able to only hire the otherwise unemployable because it's so cheap. But I agree that it would have been nice to see that at least one or two of the nice guys were also combat veterans.

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  8. 7 hours ago, Blue Plastic said:

    I wouldn't call Suzanne/Crazy Eyes a "freak accident."  She didn't mean to kill him, but she was chasing him around and being rather insistent that the little boy not leave, acting angry toward him whereas before she had been friendly.

    The Suzanne thing was incredibly sad to me because it seems that she's in a strange place, mentally. I think she's fairly intelligent but as far as maturity, she's very stunted. I don't know if there's a term/diagnosis for that but it became clear to me in her flashback that she was considered special. She had the job as a greeter (and she was very good at it) but had to live with her sister. The thought that her sister would leave her for a short weekend obviously terrified her, even though she theoretically could have taken care of herself. Though she could do the things necessary to live - operate appliances and electronics, hold a basic job, etc., she simply didn't have the tools to really function independently in an adult world - so she couldn't understand that they little boy wouldn't want to stay with her. And I'm sure it never occurred to her that his parents would be out of their minds wondering where he was. She has no boundaries, really, so chasing him around to tell him he couldn't leave isn't all that much different than her pursuit of Piper in the first season. I believe she never would have knowingly harmed him and I feel like if she'd known how frightened he was that she would have let him go. Suzanne needs someone to talk her down because she seems incapable of something - maybe it's empathy? - that's necessary for a healthy relationship.

    Overall, I thought the season was solid. I try not to think too much about the inmates' crimes in regards to their sentences - how some are obviously worthy of federal prison while others seem pretty questionable (such as Poussey). The fact that I was able to put my Piper hate aside (because she working my last nerve the first half of the season) and focus on the bigger story being told is a credit to everyone involved.

    I am very curious about where the next season picks up. Do we pick up where we left off and see what Daya does or do we deal with the fall out a day/a week/a month later? I can't believe that Poussey's death, the guard's death and subsequent FBI investigation, the riot and Sophia's ex's lawsuit won't have some sort of impact on either media snooping around or additional investigation. Although that's a lot of wishful thinking on my part...

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  9. 2 hours ago, annewithaneee said:

    They're a friend-family

    I highlighted that because it's one of the things that really struck me in the episode. There's been discussion about the ethnic/racial/ideological cliques throughout the season and I felt that the episode underscored that they are more than groups of people. Individual inmates came to pay respects to Poussey's prison family, bringing gifts, etc., and obviously putting thought into what they presented. And then Maria's discussion about making a special food for them when the kitchen was back open. The inmates lost one of their own, but there was definite acknowledgement of Poussey's prison family. I thought it was a nice touch.

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  10. On 6/24/2016 at 11:28 AM, Madding crowd said:

    If Caputo immediately threatens MCC, be would be removed and then the women would be left with Piscatella. He will probably be removed at some point anyway, but why not stay as long as possible and try to get more info to hang MCC with? It is also a very volatile time in the prison and more deaths could occur with only the guards in charge. I am really hoping that next season doesn't begin with Piscatella as head honcho, I don't think I would even want to watch that. Seeing these women basically tortured at the hands of psychopaths was bad enough in one season, don't want to see more of that. 

    I'd like to think this is true, that Caputo is smart enough, thinks strategically enough, to be looking at the immediate picture and keeping the inmates' safety in mind. However, I think it's mainly just more weak Caputo. I know his heart is in the right place but you know what? Too fucking bad. His dick was in all the wrong places, which, imo, compounded his poor decision making. A woman is dead, partly because of him.

    There's been a lot of blame bandied about, and I agree: the system (prison and mental health) surely failed everyone here, and Piscatella, Bailey and Suzanne all bear some responsibility for Poussey's death. However, Caputo also deserves to be singled out. A guard's dead body is discovered in the garden and what does the prison warden do? He goes to see Fig. WTH? He is the warden. He should have been there that night. It was his job. He really didn't know jack about Piscatella, had little track record with him and actually had to tell him that no, there would be no prisoner interrogations by the guards. That should have been a major red flag for him to stay on site that night.

    I never really warmed up to Judy King because she was such a phony and her response to yoga was as expected. I doubt that she would have given Poussey a job in the outside world; I can easily see her responding with "you're who from where?" because when she's gone from Litchfield, she will be gone.

    I've always been meh on Daya, however there was a part of me that cheered her on at the end. On one hand, I want that fucker dead but on the other hand, I don't want her to make things worse on herself because that asshole isn't worth it. There is a little bit of sweet justice that it's his own (illegal in this case) gun being turned on him.

    Nicky is acting like a predator where Morello is concerned and it's creepy.

    My wish for next season is that the hammer comes down - that Sophia's ex and Poussey's father pursue lawsuits and go very public with all this stuff. I feel like I need some sort of justice, or at least acknowledgement, because as Maddening Crowd said above, I can't keep watching these women get tortured.

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  11. 7 hours ago, micat said:

    I am done with Suzanne. I think the character, while well-acted, is poorly written. She is exactly as crazy, out-of-control, in control, cognizant, empathetic, oblivious, violent, nonviolent, smart, etc etc as the plot needs her to be at any given moment.

    I agree with the point that she's written according to whatever the plot purposes demand. I don't think it started that way, at least based on what I can remember, but I think it's kind of devolved into that. Taking the long view of the season, seeing how things worked with Suzanne and whatshername - the one she abandoned in the woods - I can see how things morphed into what happened in this episode. Yeah, I can kind of "blame" Suzanne for Poussey's death, but for sure, she's no more to blame than Bayley is. It's his boot on her back. And if I'm honest, I'm going to reach back and blame Humphreys and whatshername because he instigated the fight and she went for it and in the process, they broke Suzanne. (From my perspective, she hasn't been too bad this season, crazy-wize, compared to other times.) I can absolutely see how the minute the guards put their hands on her after the fight that she lost her shit. And of course, Poussey is the one to watch out for her, because that's who she is.

    But whatever, this episode was the first that actually made me cry and I started when Blanca stood up on that table. There's a lot I don't like about the character, but over the last three episodes I gained crazy respect for her.

    The episode has set things up for next season to be mighty interesting - there will have to be some sort of investigation, given there's a dead guard with four social security numbers in the garden and a dead inmate. As well, there will be attention drawn to it based on Judy's presence, and I wonder if Poussey's death will have any meaning for her at all - and if so, how that plays out.

    I'm almost afraid to watch the final episode because man, it's been a downward spiral for the last few. I can't imagine how much darker it will get.

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  12. 10 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:

    I know many of the other women don't have that option, but from previous seasons, isn't Piper still in contact with her lawyer? Seems like a better person to talk to than the Captain of the guards.

    Excellent point. In fact, isn't it possible there would be some media contacts she still has access to from her time with (ugh) Larry?

    Now that Sophia's wife knows that stuff is wonky, at least with Sophia, and has filed her lawsuit, I'm hoping that at least leads to something.

  13. What a brutal, brutal episode. I am so depressed after watching that. Lolly broke my heart, and Healy did too, which surprised the hell out of me.

    On 6/18/2016 at 0:22 PM, Lady Calypso said:

    I wasn't opposed to Sankey getting her ass handed to her by Humphrey, but since I think the dude's very creepy, I felt bad for her. Even more so when he was encouraging a fight. I feel bad for Suzanne, because she got the brute end of it. Maureen is not a good person; her encouraging a fight too and then she actually gets beat down? It's awful that some of the guards were just watching it happen.

     

    On 6/19/2016 at 3:12 PM, AmandaPanda said:

    Every time I think the guards can't disgust me any more, they do something like letting two prisoners beat the shit out of each other.

    And they were betting on it, I'm pretty sure. I think Humphrey started that and didn't the other guy go along with it? And Baxter went outside to sit with Coates for a while? That whole scene was totally fucked up and disturbing. I haven't liked Maria anyway and have been giving her the side eye ever since she started hanging out with the white supremacists, while still keeping a foot in the door with Suzanne. I felt really bad for Suzanne in that part because she was egged on and egged on and egged on and had no one there that would watch out for her, to help talk her down. And then she snapped and she will pay the price, not the guards who basically forced them to do it.

    On 6/20/2016 at 9:19 PM, Jodithgrace said:

    They didn't let them.  They made them! I just sit horrified, episode after episode, at the total unfairness of this prison situation. Yes, the women are criminals ..some more than others. But I think that we've seen, via more than one flashback, that many of these women were victims also. And now they are totally powerless in a meat grinder system that is killing whatever souls they have left. From the over crowding and the hideous food to the caprices of these so called guards..it's just so unfair that i want to scream. And the flawed, but generally good hearted people who want to help them, like Caputo and Healy just can't seem to get around their own weaknesses enough to do any good, especially against a system like MCC. 

    I think it's interesting that the only guard to even dare question Piscatello after Caputo left was Coates, the rapist. I said in a different thread that it seems the prison experience is actually teaching him that these prisoners are people, not just interchangeable criminals. Bailey/Baxter/whatever his name is knows it's fucked up but doesn't have the wherewithal to say or do something - he's basically a Caputo - and the female guard is all over the damn map. In one instance she wants Maritza to do her makeup and two episodes later she's ready to use her military-gained interrogation methods.

    This season seems to be a lesson in group-think/mob mentality. The Dominicans come together, the white supremacists come together, the new guards, Caputo with his corporate masters . . . It makes me wonder how it would have gone if Caputo had made someone else besides Piscatello be in charge. Boy, that was a bad, bad mistake because Piscatello created a culture of fear, intimidation and humiliation.

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  14. Why isn't anyone talking to Healy or Caputo about what's going on with all this guard bullshit? I know they don't know what happened to Maritza but everyone can see what's going on with Blanca and now Piper. They're all aware of the invasive searching, even if they're not all subjected to it. I know it could be kind of rough before, but it feels like they're descending into Dante's inferno or something. I don't know enough to know if this is legal (but unethical) treatment and perhaps that's where the prisoners are in all this. But it seems to me that making an inmate to stand on a dining table in her own urine to force her take a shower is kind of dicey on the humane conditions that jails/prisons are expected to maintain.

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  15. I left the room during the mouse scene. I just couldn't.

    23 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

    I did not like that, I thought it was f-ed up.  And not in a funny way, like a psycho way.

    On 6/21/2016 at 9:36 PM, questionfear said:

    I wondered if her work with the old lady escalated to elder abuse, possibly physical (not getting her out of bed, etc) or financial. The woman implied she had a bad relationship with her daughter, but the daughter was clearly monitoring the mother. And it would fit with what we've seen of how Blanca reacts to feeling powerless. 

    I'll tell you what, that old woman was getting on my last nerve and she acted like she owned Blanca instead of merely employing her. I agree that having sex in front of her crossed the line, but it seems like Blanca snapped. And after asserting her authority that way, she was able to say, "here's your motherfucking coffee heated in the microwave" and really, what's the woman going to say after that? Based on what we saw, I wouldn't say Blanca was abusive but she stopped being kind, gentle and accommodating - she began calling the shots. And I'm sure the old woman figured if Blanca was willing to have sex in front of her, all bets were off. That was a messed up relationship from the get-go. I'm sure the old woman have never experienced anyone standing up to her like that, let alone "the help."

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  16. 1 hour ago, Madding crowd said:

    I'm wondering how Piscatella would be sending recommendations to a judge. Wouldn't that have to go thru the warden's office? I know they don't have an actual warden now but I think the captain of the guards would have no say on prisoner recommendations. 

    Yeah, it would be nice if there was some kind of throwaway line or something about how that actually works. Right now it seems like the guards have an awful lot of power over the inmates.

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  17. It's becoming my mantra: I love Red.

    So I guess we're seeing the beginning of the Piper redemption arc just as we see Maria slide into the depths of villainous behavior. This is the first time I've ever had any inkling that Piper gives a shit about someone/thing beyond Piper.

    The Coates thing is causing me some turmoil because in my mind, he raped Tucky. However, the thought that struck me during his second scene with her, when he apologized, is that prison can be a life-changing experience for not only the prisoners. Not everyone emerges changed from the experience, but I wonder if he's one of those rare people that is actually learning to see the prisoners as humans and not just bodies in nondescript uniforms. I think it was "easy" for him to rape Tucky because at the time, he didn't see her as a person but as a prisoner, to be punished, who deserved what she got. However, I think the interaction with Luchek showed that Coates may be evolving and starting to understand that there are people in those uniforms. Some are good, some are bad, but they're not all the same and they deserve basic respect. Contrast that with the guard who was standing in the shower surrounded by naked women so Judy would be protected - and by the way, wtf with that? There wasn't a female guard somewhere to take that on? I call bullshit on that piece of business. So anyway, I believe Coates raped Tucky, I believe he's starting to see it that way, or at least understand her point of view on it, and that shockingly, he's becoming one of the better guards. I don't know that he actually loves her like he thinks he does, but I do think she and the job has led him to questioning himself and the way he's behaved in the past.

    My happiness over Nicky's return was a little dimmed this episode because I found her pushy and basically awful. Her interaction with Morello and Alex was disappointing. We've been having discussions about Coates raping Tucky, but honestly, I found the way Nicky was harassing Morello to be not much better. She didn't force herself on Morello, but I wondered if that's where it was headed.

    And the minute Caputo told Linda to stir the sauce I knew she'd do something to it, but I didn't expect a carton of salt to be dumped in the pan. I hope Sophia's ex sues the shit out of all them because Linda is horrific and Caputo's no better. The ex mentioned the freedom of information act and a lawyer, so I hope that actually means something. Perhaps Caputo is the Piper of the prison power structure and he's got an epic smackdown coming.

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  18. 58 minutes ago, knaankos said:

    I hate how they made it a race thing. Why does every white character have to be racist? Even worse with these stupid Nazis in Piper's meetings now 

    I do understand the racial aspect of the different groups in prison and the rivalries/conflict that arise from them. Based on what little I know, that seems to be somewhat realistic - people tend to gravitate to what they're familiar with and race is the most obvious trait (it's usually not so easy to pick friends based on things such as religion, education, political affiliation, etc. until after you get to know them). And I can buy that the skinheads gravitated to Piper and her group because it presented the opportunity to act out against another group, particularly the one that is now the majority. However, I agree that Piscatella being racially motivated in all of it is a been there, done that deal. I guess it was easy for the writers.

    In thinking about it, there's very little mixing among the different races this season. I can't remember if it was quite this obvious in previous seasons. That's not to say racial lines are never crossed (Morello and Suzanne seem to do their jobs just fine together, for example), but they even bunk according to race, it seems. I don't know if that's realistic or a plot device or lazy writing or what. My issue with the race thing is that I feel like we've already done that with Vee. I guess we have to go through it again because it's Piper this time, but it's really front and center and I don't feel like it needs to be.

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  19. On 6/17/2016 at 8:38 PM, Lady Calypso said:

    So...damn, Healy really got through to Lolly and their conversation in the 'time machine' was a very sweet moment. This is the first time I felt like Healy wasn't doing it solely for himself. He actually thought of Lolly! So congratulations, show. You haven't fully redeemed him for me, but you made me like him for the first time.

    Yeah. He played it just right with her. It's nice that someone actually gives a damn about her. I think her story is sad and interesting, which surprises me because I didn't like her character last season. I have a friend who is that level of paranoid. My last conversation with her over a year ago was a discussion about the FBI following her, bugging her phone, etc. She's a brilliant, kind, wonderful person and she has fallen apart and there's not a damn thing to be done about it. I've known her for years; she was always very capable and we had no clue that this was lurking out there. But when it hit, damn, it hit big. So Lolly's story is ringing true on all levels for me.

    On 6/19/2016 at 2:19 PM, nosleepforme said:

    I had high hopes for the Judy King storyline, but having her so isolated from the rest of the prisoners doesn't add up to too much interesting stuff, even though it's poignant with the the advantages that celebrities generally have if caught up in a legal situations.

    In one of the earlier threads someone compared her to a Martha Stewart/Paula Deen mix, and I thought that was on point. I didn't follow Martha's time in prison, and since I didn't really much care for Paula Deen, I pretty much ignored the kerfuffle over her questionable comments, so I didn't have much in the way of expectations about the storyline. My main takeaway from it is that MCC is running the prison on a shoestring budget, resulting in overcrowding, gang formation and all sorts of bad shit, yet they're able to squirrel the celebrity away and spring for such luxuries as a seltzer maker for the room. The inmates will surely find out about that and it will not sit well. I also wonder how they'll respond when yoga lady (I never remember her name) goes back into general population after living a relatively cushy lifestyle in an increasingly crappy prison setting.

    On 6/17/2016 at 8:38 PM, Lady Calypso said:

    Somehow, Nicky being back makes things so much better when it comes to Piper. Everyone else encourages or snaps at Piper, which makes her retaliate. Nicky, in the meantime, brings her down from her high horse to acknowledge the bigger picture.

    Nicky is the voice of reason to Piper and she handled it really well. She got her digs in and, I think, made Piper start to question her choices of late. What happened to Piper is brutal, and I would never say she "deserved" it, but in all practicality, she had to expect something - it is prison, ffs. When she had said an episode or two earlier that she set Maria up because she had to "take care of her people" I knew that was a bullshit excuse and it was exposed as such right off the bat when she told her bunk mate that she couldn't help her but she was rooting for her. I'm curious to see what Piper's like the next few episodes.

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  20. 2 hours ago, questionfear said:

    I think they said Nicky came in struggling with withdrawal symptoms and Red helped her. So it could be that she's been in prison for 3+ years, so she has her 3 year chip, but since she came in still addicted Red had to help her withdraw. 

    Thank you. That makes some sense to me. I haven't watched the earlier seasons since they originally aired but it seemed like I had seen prison Nicky (meaning pre-Litchfield Nicky didn't count) using or under the influence at some point during the series. It may have been a flashback of her withdrawing while she was in prison.

  21. 13 minutes ago, qtpye said:

    I replaced it with a kitty cat...at least it was kind of cute.

    I confess, I did too. But it didn't last long either because it was too annoying. And this from someone who's often fighting the cat for the keyboard.

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  22. On 6/19/2016 at 2:59 PM, clanstarling said:

    Even Sissy's character doesn't welcome him with open arms, which you'd might expect, given that he is supposedly her long lost grandson.

    Sally's apparent lack of interest in Nolan really puzzled me. She didn't seem to display much reaction at all - not even curiosity or surprise - at Nolan's appearance. I kind of expected something given her supposed regret and grief and all that over Danny. Listen, if I lost a child and one of his/her offspring showed up out of the blue soon afterward there'd be all sorts of emotions going through my mind, heart, body. I'm not saying they would all be positive, but I think there would be at least a little bit of "do over!" or "omg, this is too close too soon!" or something that would bubble up. But not Sally. Noooooooo. Sally's all about Sally.

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  23. 18 hours ago, hkit said:

    And finally, not related to this episode, but the show in general, I just can't with Gilfoyle. He is such a lazily written character and has no defining personality other than to be a crappy person. Dinesh, Jared, and even Erlich seem to have some depth to them, but Gilfoyle exists to be sarcastic and mean. He is currently my least favorite character on any show I watch.

    I'm with you. It occurred to me this episode that I'm really over Gilfoyle. I don't find his nasty personality and monotone voice amusing at all; I hate him almost as much as I hate Richard.

    And speaking of Richard - ffs, get the hell out of the tub. Jesus, but what a simpering, spoiled, self-important shit he is. I am far from tech-savvy, but I don't get how difficult it could be to do a slight re-design of the interface - a tweak or something - that can make the app a little more user-friendly. Richard seems like that guy that needs/wants to be the smartest person in the room and then gets pissed off that the rest of us aren't smart enough to understand that he's the smartest person in the room. I have a computer-nerd friend and he once told me that he stayed away from Apple products because they're too easy - that they've kind of dumbed stuff down. My response to him was that I like the fact that it's "dumbed down." My brain isn't wired for that kind of thinking and when it comes to technology interface, an intuitive approach works real well for me - the simpler the better. I don't care how my apps work or why they work; I just need to know they work. And if that means popping up a little "your file is downloading now!" to humor me, that's fine; I'm not offended. And that's the thing with Richard: he had valuable feedback that people didn't really understand what the app did or its value; they didn't really get how to use it. It seems to me that tweaking the app so that it could walk the user through in steps - perhaps as part of the install process - could basically accomplish that educational piece that was missing. But giving classes and literally taking the show on the road? Snooooooze. . . And forget about that animated pied piper - I disabled that annoying paper clip immediately!

    The jokes with Gavin and animals as metaphors is old. The bulldog was funny, the tortoise and hare were cute. The elephant was trying too hard.

    The less said about that Tables ad the better.

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  24. I know she was doing some prison dealing but somehow I thought in the first season Nicky relapsed or something. I can't remember, but I thought she used again in the first or second season and Red helped her clean up. I may be confusing that with someone/something else, or some sort of flashback, however.

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