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Michelle didn't want David Madison didn't want Allen Juan didn't want Karla Ike didn't want Em They put on a good show at the wedding & quickly flipped the script. Ike & Em suffered the top couple crash. Another 1 couple season. π¬π¬π¬π¬
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So Em gave Ike a half hug, Allen refused David's handshake, Madison skipped greeting Allen & he said hello to her. So he's gunna acknowledge her in group settings? π€ I'm surprised Em even acknowledged the clown. David saying it started in the gym sounds bad cuz they did that day 3 or 4. I think he means those conversations, just her talking to him he appreciated. Doesn't mean he was looking at her as more than a friend. WHAT'S Michelle upset about?!!! She didn't want him, so what's the issue?!! Not buying another hyped confrontation cuz the last one was a dud. π Looks like the ONE couple will survive the post DD meetup, unlike some couples from recent seasons. π
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Oh Em! She was on point when she started about Ike taking accountability for his actions: going to the retreat with his paper to embarrass her & telling the group he didn't want to go... but the repetition & goading was too much. She kept poking til he blew up, but it seemed like she showed what he claimed. She should've asked him questions & let him dig his own grave instead of call him allllll the way out about everything. Ask the group who wanted him at the retreat. π Nevermind, someone would say yes because he's part of the experiment. She just wants to tear him up every time to where SHE has to step away to regroup??? Girl can't hide her contempt! π How's that feeling? Having fun? WHY waste that energy?!!! She needs to stop since she can't control herself. Everyone is pretty much over it, only 2 of the girls stepped away with her. How fast does she find a fiancΓ©?!! 6 weeks? 6 months? Pretty fast! π
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Juan talking about building a romantic connection AT THE END?!!! TOO MUCH SPIRITUAL STUFF??!!! AT THE END?!!! GTFOH!!!! TOO LATE!!! WASTE OF TIME, UNSERIOUS, FLOATER COUPLE! Not even a hug goodbye when he left! A JOKE! They weren't even worth making a prediction. Of course DIVORCE on DD!!! What she said she'd like to hear was strange. DD isn't the day to decide to try! Her holdup was not getting affection & consideration & his was no attraction & chemistry, but said going to the gym. π Um. Okay. Sure. Again with the nonsense. DD isn't the day to hash that stuff out!!! DISCUSS IT BEFORE, WHEN IT MATTERS, WHEN IT CAN BE ADDRESSED!!! He was the first holdup. I suspect because he wasn't feeling her & not that he's not into affection. That was just a BS excuse/cop-out. He's lucky she just floated along with him instead of resenting him & blowing up because of it. Funny how she rushed to say divorce & rejected his excuses. Too bad PC didn't enlighten Juan earlier about being closed to whatever he wasn't into. I guess DD meant more "honesty." π
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T&C are just bizarre. WHY don't they know each other's decisions?!!! WHY can't they say & do what each other needs to say yes?!!! Wait til DD to figure out living arrangements?!! COME ON!!! That's RIDICULOUS!!! WHY CAN'T THEY DISCUSS IT & DECIDE TOGETHER?!!!! I CAN'T WITH THEIR TERRIBLE COMMUNICATION!! ππ
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Not seeing the purpose of DD for already split couples, but eh. Make herself feel shitty? Ya. Okay. Whatever. That sounds remorseless. Allen could've skipped it, but didn't? Why? David's behavior was ATROCIOUS!!! Acted a straight up fool, then quit answering with his, "I don't know," to if thinking she didn't care (about the marriage?) was a free-for-all. That's a child right there! He wasn't there to discuss anything. He was there to make a statement and go. Tried shutting it down with the ring on the table, then resorted to idk responses. Guess he finally hit his limit of the hot seat. π He didn't intend on hurting her? WHAT did he intend? Is she hurt? For what?! WHAT did David think Michelle didn't care about? His feelings and/or him dealing with other women? He keeps harping on her never asking how he was, so I guess that. They both say, "could care less," which is WRONG. Twinsies! Add Em to that! I hope they cut Michelle saying what she did wrong, cuz if there was none of that, that's a problem. I disagree with just showing David answering for his behavior. She kept invalidating what he said by repeating her, "that's your story now, so is it true?," BS!!! He should've told her to cut the BS & quit playing. He said some right things until he "checked out." He didn't share his feelings so they could work on them, but I guess also felt like he couldn't because she didn't even care to ask his feelings. Still, he could've been an adult and told her. She said she cared about him as a person, ask HOW she showed that! He did realize where he went wrong, he just couldn't own it til the end of the conversation. Can't take any push back. Did he think that text & lying was wrong??? π€ WHERE'S HER TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY??? TOM??? MR. ACCOUNTABILITY POLICE BETTER CHECK HER!! WHAT IS SHE UPSET ABOUT??? SHE CAN'T SERIOUSLY DISAGREE WITH MADISON'S STATEMENTS. THEY WON WHAT??? π
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Looks like she's trying to hold back to not look that bad. He seems to finally be reading the situation that he's wayyyy more into her than she is into him. It's a lot easier being friends, compared to the pressure and expectations of being married to a stranger spouse. HOW DOES IT CROSS THAT LINE?!?!! ππ
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How'd he put it back on her? π€That's what she says whenever he says he wasn't getting any attention or care from her. Her behavior did contribute. Doesn't make it right nor excuse what he did, it's what happened though. I wonder if he was happy with Michelle if he still would've "caught feelings" for Madison. π€ He does take ownership of not voicing his feelings & messing up there. I guess we didn't see him really own being wrong for the text & repeatedly lying & that took him wayyyy down. Maybe he thought that was okay because he thought she didn't care what he did since she didn't want him.
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Good gosh, the music was terrible!!! Too loud, could barely hear them speaking at times, randomly playing during scenes. Like someone waited til the last minute to add music & dumped a bunch a tracks over this episode! Most of the bleeps were off too! WTF?!!!
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A golf "date." How cute! π This "couple swap" they teased all season has not delivered AT ALL!!! Low-key, one pair of spouses, & happened at the end. Total DUD!!! That stupid text made the most drama for 5 episodes!!! Wait weeks or months? David? YEAH. RIGHT!!!!
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It was ridiculous for him to bring it up the day before DD like anything can change it now & had nothing to back it up. That's his problem, he says stuff & can't support it. The cards? ONCE? Is too much??? YEAH. RIGHT. He's reaching for stupid excuses. π
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*Sigh* I guess because they "care" about each other, it's not a concern. Whatever that's worth. Idk. I say let the cheaters do what they do! π
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Maybe not quite. Seems she's just not acknowledging her words & actions prior to that text & keeps repeating that, "is this true?" BS, when she knows it is. If they don't play every clip of her saying the same line over & over at the reunion.... They did a thing, she said she still had a problem, they did another thing, she said she still had a problem. Rinse. Repeat. How was he supposed to feel?!!! She just expected him to wait til she maybe came around? π Totally self-centered! Still wrong of him to text & lie & not formally quit first. She has to take responsibility for her behavior & she's using him lying to avoid doing that.
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Everyone was really probably upset with David because he upset the cook & made him leave. That's why they all left early! ππ
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20yrs old with FOUR KIDS?!! WHAT ARE THEY DOING OUT DRINKING?!!!! Can't even legally drink & has kids? That makes sense. NOT. Their stories were incoherent. I couldn't make sense of his friend's. He went back to ask his friend if he needed a ride? And did he? Why not ask BEFORE leaving? WHERE was he? WHAT'S his story??? π A guy randomly pulls a gun for no reason??? Did the cops ask the friend if he had a gun? If he'd fired a gun? Do a GSR test? They should clone & monitor their phones!!! The gf investigated on Instagram & found the shooter! What about the cops? Incompetent?! Lazy?! They just waited for the surveillance footage? COME ON!!! That footage was so blurry, I don't think they should dangle that as evidence they wanna show the suspect. So disturbing how easily that guy just pointed a gun. & the victim's stupid friend hangs out the window & fires & tries to claim self defense when they're away from the situation, after trying to blame his dead friend. & they drive past the same area. SMART! Should've shown the suspect running up that hill to shoot at them. That fool seriously denied pointing a gun?!! Holding a bottle?!! Throw him away! He still could've let it go & not fired. But no. He wanted to shoot & actually had a reason. His self-defense claim would've been more reasonable, but he wants to deny having a gun. The victim's friend threw the gun? Retrace their route & FIND IT!!! Just weak, stupid kids. GUNS=DEATH. Nothing new.