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7 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
But one of the things that really, really irks me is, we see that Swann and Lionel did NOT know each other. It was the first time they met. Yet, four seasons later, during the Veritas subplot, in a flashback, we are told that Queen, Lionel, Teague, and Swann were part of a society/group, that monitored the coming of the last son of Krypton/the "Traveler" which was just a massacring of the mythos of Superman.
Even though it was clearly a retcon, I thought that the Veritas story worked well enough. It was never outright stated that Swann and Lionel were meeting for the first time during that convo, despite the implications. And it was a nice way to tie everything together for Al/Miles as their exit storyline.
7 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:And I also hate how AlMiles, Souders/Peterson, went all out in trying to make AI Jor-El as something that had emotions and was some evil despot that hated Earth that needed to be conquered. Just give me Marlon Brando's version, thankyouverymooch. Not to mention that horrid "Relic" that had Jor-El doing a walkabout and meeting Hiram Kent, and thus chose the Kents to find and adopt Clark.
I never thought Jor-El was evil, just very strict. I don't mind the writers expanding upon the comics that way. I also didn't mind the 1961 story with Jor-El, despite the Clana anvils.
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54 minutes ago, MadyGirl1987 said:
While the films have their issues, I would argue the Donner films gave us the most accurate live-action portrayal of Superman to date. Christopher Reeves' Superman/Clark Kent portrays him in a way that is both tough but also kind and earnest.
I agree but my point wasn't against the Donner films so much as it was against the inability to move on from them. In the fandom but especially with filmmakers.
Smallville, Superman Returns, and even Man of Steel to a certain extent have had this problem. If you're going to adapt Superman, then do it your own way. No matter how successful or iconic the previous iterations may have been.
1 hour ago, MadyGirl1987 said:The single biggest disservice DC and Snyder have done to Superman is to try to make him dark and gritty. Superman is not dark and gritty. He's a symbol of hope.
1 hour ago, MadyGirl1987 said:Marvel found a way to make him relevant to current day, while DC just made him Batman, because the Dark Knight was so well received, not considering they are different characters.
None of the DC Comics characters are particularly "dark and gritty" in the first place, but I understand what you mean. Zack Snyder just knows jackshit about Superman and DC Comics, and also is not the right kind of filmmaker for these kinds of movies.
1 hour ago, MadyGirl1987 said:I see Captain America as the Marvel version of Superman; big kind tough men fighting for "truth justice and the American way."
I can understand the similarities, but Cap and Superman are still different characters. Especially with regards to the patriotism, which for Superman is not integral to the character and shouldn't be misrepresented as such, in my view.
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7 hours ago, rmontro said:
Since people were talking about the Oscar awards, I wonder if this film looks diverse enough for current Hollywood.
You think that would cost them the Oscar?
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25 minutes ago, millennium said:
Why then would Gunn resurrect them? Isn't his whole deal about rebooting the DC universe? Why would he pull these useless characters out of the 1980s?
While he's at it, why not bring back Wendy, Marvin and Wonder Dog from The Super Friends?
Probably a Donner fanboy. Unfortunately, there are many who are simply unable to part ways with those films.
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7 hours ago, millennium said:
Otis and Eve Teschmacher are purely movie creations, are they not?
Yes, movie creations.
7 hours ago, millennium said:The Luthor-Miss Tessmacher-Otis trio really dumbed down the movie.
Hopefully they won't dumb down Gunn's new movie.
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Nah, it's got nothing to do with the characters they choose. Just really bad writing.
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Better not bring back Ms. Wu just to kill her off.
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17 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:
Kraven will tank just as badly.
All these "spider verse" movies are just dumb and make no sense without Spiderman, because otherwise no one care about these characters.
I'm actually surprised one movie made it over 50%
I don't think that these movies need Spider-Man at all. They all make sense and can work just fine without him.
The real problem is that Sony keeps turning out bad scripts. The effort just isn't there, unfortunately. It's a shame, because I think something like Madame Web could have ended up doing well in better hands.
I'm not surprised that the Venom movies did as well as they did, given the character's popularity.
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5 minutes ago, shrewd.buddha said:
But the Disney marketing machine makes every casting choice feel like a stunt.
What casting choices in particular are you saying have felt like a stunt? And how has the marketing played a role?
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4 hours ago, Artsda said:
Michael said Sonny has nobody without him, Dex and Carly? What?
I think maybe that was supposed to be a Jason anvil.
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1 hour ago, rmontro said:
Again, the Avengers were all white. I haven't heard anyone say it was concerning, and besides, that movie was a resounding success.
They didn't have much choice, because the characters had already been introduced individually as white in solo movies. Unlike the FF, where it's immediately noticeable that everyone is white. More importantly, you had Sam Jackson in Avengers, so that was a critical factor. Without him, I don't know if they would have proceeded without any minority cast members.
And it's about much more than how successful a movie may or may not turn out.
1 hour ago, rmontro said:There is nothing about the Fantastic Four that "looks like a racist country". And Stan Lee created minority characters. But the country happened to be 90% white, and the entertainment industry reflected that, which shouldn't be surprising.
I was referring to comics characters overall. The predominance of white characters reflected a racist country. It's not just about a numerical majority. A country's culture is a reflection of not just numbers, but systems of power and oppression. If one group of people has power and privilege while the other groups are marginalized and discriminated, then the numbers eventually become irrelevant. Racism played a huge part in why minorities were and are excluded in the entertainment industry.
Stan Lee creating minority characters does not negate the racism inherent to the comic book industry, including in his own work.
1 hour ago, rmontro said:Why would one race's culture be more important than another?
I didn't say that non-white culture is more important than white culture. I said that preserving and protecting non-white culture is more important than for white culture. White culture will be just fine if a minority actor steps into a white role. But minority cultures will suffer if whites are cast in minority roles. Even beyond the issue of comic book movies, the protection of whiteness is inherently assured by society, while non-white identity and culture is inherently vulnerable and takes care and effort to maintain.
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3 hours ago, rmontro said:
The Avengers weren't race swapped, and their movies were spectacularly successful. Spider-Man wasn't race swapped. The X-Men weren't race swapped. Batman wasn't race swapped. Superman wasn't race swapped. Because those are all iconic characters. But Fiege looks at the Fantastic Four and all of a sudden he has a problem, "they're too white"? You wouldn't race swap Superman or Peter Parker or Wolverine because they're iconic, and people expect them to look a certain way. And the Fantastic Four belongs in that group of very special iconic characters. They were the first Marvel comic, and the foundation of the Marvel universe. Out of respect, they shouldn't be race swapped.
I don't think that the X-Men, Avengers, or Fantastic Four are as iconic as Batman, Superman, or Spider-Man. You would probably have an easier time changing races for them because of it.
I also don't think that it was just iconicity and audience expectations that kept those characters from changing races. There were many other factors at play, such as industry standards, the character backgrounds, as well as the culture of the time, to name a few.
And a big difference between the other characters and the Fantastic Four is that it is a team versus solo characters. Feige saw a whole group of white actors, not just one white actor. A white-dominated superhero team is concerning, especially if it's all-white.
1 hour ago, rmontro said:The characters created in the '60s were predominately white because the US at the time was 90% white. It wasn't out of meanness. People created characters that looked like the country. Just like people create more diverse characters now because the country is now more diverse.
The US at the time was also predominantly racist. People created characters that looked like a racist country. It doesn't matter whether it was out of "meanness" or not. Black and minority culture was alive and well in the 60s, and those writers and artists made a choice to exclude it.
1 hour ago, rmontro said:But if they're white, so what? Why is it so wrong that they're white?
Because society has had enough of white-dominated, white-centered, and white-identified stories and are pushing back against racial supremacy in media.
1 hour ago, rmontro said:People don't want to change characters of color because they say that is essential to their character. As if white people have no culture or something.
It is much more important to preserve and protect non-white culture than it is to preserve white culture.
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6 hours ago, Lobsel Vith said:
I remember everyone laughing when Sonny killed the Russian at the meeting of the Five Families because of how laughable it was all performed. It was a goofy scene.
I think they were referring to a different Russian, Karpov, who Sonny shot in front of Olivia. The humorous "twirl-and-shoot" killing at the Five Families meeting was a different Russian years later. Not to be confused with the *other* Russian who Sonny killed at the next Five Families meeting a couple years after that.
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3 hours ago, rmontro said:
Pascal is white (hispanic), so that doesn't solve that particular situation, if one considers it a problem.
Whiteness is about much more than just genetic ancestry. Being a white Spanish speaking Latino is different from being an English speaking white American or Western European etc.
And for a major commercial studio blockbuster, casting all of the major roles with white people is definitely going to be a concern. I don't think Pascal's casting itself is necessarily the best solution, but good on Feige for recognizing the situation and attempting to address it.
3 hours ago, rmontro said:I'm sorry that Fiege doesn't approve of Stan Lee's work.
It's not the comic book characters and readers that Feige was concerned with. It's all of the white actors that were cast in the film roles that was the issue, along with the moviegoing audience. Movies are not the same business as comic books. Not only do you have to consider what's being portrayed in front of the camera, you also must consider who is being hired and employed as the portrayers.
3 hours ago, rmontro said:I don't want to see a white Miles Morales, or a white Black Adam, or a white John Stewart, or a white Sam Wilson, or a white Power Man.
This is a false equivalence. There are different standards for non-whites than there are for whites. Casting a white actor for a Black character is not the same as casting a Black actor for a white character.
4 hours ago, rmontro said:If Fiege made a film about the Beatles, would he race swap them?
The Beatles are real people, not fictional characters.
4 hours ago, rmontro said:but when it comes to characters as iconic as the Fantastic Four, have a little respect.
Is changing a character's race somehow inherently disrespectful to the material? What benefits are there to having a white lead actor as Reed? Or for any of them? Will the film and characters be somehow cheapened or lessened by casting non-white actors?
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1 hour ago, rmontro said:
Kevin Fiege said he wanted the team to be diverse. Is that what happened, because of Pedro Pascal?
I have not seen Fiege say that about the team. What I did see was that Fiege reportedly saw the rest of the cast and thought that it was (understandably) "way too white". That is supposedly part of the reason they went with Pascal. I think that they may also be considering a non-white actor for Doom for the same reason.
It may not be as diverse as it could be, but it is something.
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9 hours ago, Sake614 said:
Yes. the Balkan. Can’t blame you for not remembering. It was a pretty forgettable storyline.
I thought I remember Adrienne Barbeau killing the Balkan when she slit his throat. Maybe you mean someone else?
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Damn. Slaughtered.
It's too bad, because the concept is cool.
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5 hours ago, ljr said:
When I first saw the Jagger recast I thought he was dexs father.
There's still time...
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Sad about Avery. What a waste. She deserved better writing.
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31 minutes ago, nilyank said:
I like Esme and really love Avery the actress. Without either Cassadine man on the show, I would keep her and Ace but have interact with different characters.
I agree that Esme has potential beyond the Cassadines. She shouldn't be killed off or sent away in my view. She just needs better writing.
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19 minutes ago, VioletMarx said:
Geary hasn't even bothered to make a statement about JZ passing. I doubt he is going to fly across the world to make a cameo in her honor.
Geary did release a statement when Jackie died:
https://tvline.com/news/jackie-zeman-dies-anthony-geary-tribute-general-hospital-1234985842/
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I kinda wish they would stop trying with the Adam storyline. The story itself is pretty lame, and it also looks like MB's son has been studying his father. I think I saw some of Mo's acting tics in his performance.
TempJoss is a hell of lot more tolerable than the real one.
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13 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:
I'm just glad they waited until Christmas this time. I remember a teary SL a few years back about a character's death that was right before the holiday. Maybe Oscar? Not that I cared about that character, but the actors reacting to it were really good and endless mourning just wasn't what most people need this time of year!
There was that one storyline where Sasha's baby died around Christmas I think.
I personally don't mind these stories because I think that there is an inherent darkness to Christmas and the holiday season, so it makes for good dramatic storytelling in that sense.
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11 hours ago, statsgirl said:
Trina is 22 (23?).
She and Joss are both 21.
Season Four: The Stones of Suck
in Smallville
Lois should never have been on the show to begin with, in my opinion. It wasn't necessary. If they really wanted to, then she shouldn't have been more than a guest star.
Having said that, I like Erica Durance, and think that her character was strongest in season four. Unfortunately, the show went into a different direction and the writers clearly were not interested in doing anything with the character. It was only in S8 that Lois began to get real material.