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18 hours ago, ABay said:
"You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons."
17 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:My favorite movie quote ever.
Ironically, since we're talking about the death of the screenwriter; that line, or at least the last part of it, was an ad-lib by Gene Wilder. Cleavon Little's reaction was genuine because he knew Wilder was off-script, but was also excited because he (rightly) suspected what was coming would be hilarious.
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On 3/15/2023 at 9:49 PM, North of Eden said:
Speaking of which, what are all the LINGO, and spy shows based on a 30-year-old movie...where is TAR?!?
Filming and/or editing. It'll probably be back in the fall.
On 3/15/2023 at 9:12 PM, choclatechip45 said:I've lost track of all the advantages.
Tracker thread is up. It hasn't been updated to after episode 3 yet, but it is there.
On 3/15/2023 at 10:59 PM, mertensia said:Why don't they put up dividers so you can't see the other stacks of cubes?
This was brought up during the podcast after the episode. Peachy said that in this case it was impractical to do so. As in building dividing walls tall enough to hide the solution for this particular challenge would not have been a good use of the challenge building team's time and resources.
But they have done dividers or other solution disguisers in the past; typically in the post-merge for the individual challenges, when the props are usually smaller.
11 hours ago, bunnyface said:There were at least two people on the show last night I had never seen before. I swear they sneak people in there to confuse me. (It can't possibly be my fault...lol.)
Has there been a rule change? Probst used to always say "remember, the same person cannot sit out two challenges in a row." Yet Claire somehow managed to sit out three challenges in three episodes and it cost her her game.
17 minutes ago, rr2911 said:Did Survivor change the sitting out of challenge rules? I remember Jeff always reminding the contestants that they can't sit out back to back challenges.
We talked about this last week too. And as I said then, that rule does not apply when it's a season with combined RCs and ICs. TCs reset the bench. This has always been the way.
But they talked about it on the podcast as well. Peachy thinks they may need to revisit and revise the rule for the new era. So there may be a change in a future season.
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With Episode 2 comes an important new addition to the Tracker for this year: The Chart of Idol Truth or Existance, or the CITE. Since TPTB have added in given fake idols that match with other real idols to induce confusion for both the players and the viewers, the CITE will help us keep track of what's where and what's what.
9 minutes ago, SVNBob said:Emoji Key:
- Colored squares: Tribe Color. Mainly used for affiliations and histories.
- Colored circles: HIIs. Color indicates camp/tribe of origin.
- 🎲: Used SITD at TC. Result nested below name.
- ⛔: Temporarily cannot vote. Number is how many TCs vote is lost for.
- 🌄: Attended an "Advantage Island" summit. Summits are numbered in chronological order.
🟧 Ratu 🏆
🟩 Soka 🏆
🟪 Tika
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beads on a string
- has no power
- Carson
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Sarah
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Inheritance Advantage
- When played in the voting booth at TC, user will receive all advantages and idols used by anyone at that TC.
- Yam Yam
Pre-Jury
Advantage Graveyard
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Bank-A-Vote Advantage
- User can forgo voting at one TC and instead save that vote to use at any future TC of their choice.
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Won by Lauren at 🌄#1
- Used at TC and vote banked.
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Locked in cage at Ratu camp
- Along with powerless orange medallion
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Key found by Brandon
- Cage opened publicly
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- Played correctly.
- Presumed rehidden.
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The CITE
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Ratu: 🟠
- Played but presumed rehidden
- Soka: None
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- Carolyn
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- Ratu: None
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- Danny
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After some delay, the Tracker is back on track. Forgoing the explanation and alphabetic cast roster this year and getting straight into it; all the way to the Graveyard even!
Emoji Key:
- Colored squares: Tribe Color. Mainly used for affiliations and histories.
- Colored circles: HIIs. Color indicates camp/tribe of origin.
- 🎲: Used SITD at TC. Result nested below name, but only after immediate use.
- ⛔: Temporarily cannot vote. Number is how many TCs vote is lost for.
- 🌄: Attended an "Advantage Island" summit. Summits are numbered in chronological order.
Status as of the end of Episode 1
🟩 Soka 🏅🏆
🟪 Tika 🏆
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Inheritance Advantage
- When played in the voting booth at TC, user will receive all advantages and idols used by anyone at that TC.
- Yam Yam
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- used correctly
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- SAFE!
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Bank-A-Vote Advantage
- User can forgo voting at one TC and instead save that vote to use at any future TC of their choice.
- Vote Banked
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Bank-A-Vote Advantage
- User can forgo voting at one TC and instead save that vote to use at any future TC of their choice.
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- Used at TC and vote banked.
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While this is not a comment about either side of the Rock/Smith debate, I'm now reminded of the Mel Brooks quote:
"Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die."
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47 minutes ago, iMonrey said:
OK - both Brandon and Danny got identical bead idols.
No, they didn't. Brandon got a bead bracelet idol. Danny got a big Green medallion.
48 minutes ago, iMonrey said:Bradon's fake was a "medallion" and Danny's fake was a "silver coin."
This is correct.
50 minutes ago, iMonrey said:Why would Brandon and Danny get identical idols, and Carolyn get the same thing but have it designated as the fake?
They didn't and she didn't. She was the only one of the three that got both beads and a coin.
There's only two of each type of item: two medallions, two coins, and two "beads".
The differences are the colors. Orange and Purple "beads", Orange and Green medallions, and coins with different colored strings for Green (a lighter, possibly green, string) and Purple (darker, possibly purple). There's no Orange coin, no Purple medallion, and no Green beads.
All Peachy has to know is which items are the real ones: the already played Orange beads, the Purple coin, and the Green medallion. He doesn't need to know who has them, just what they are. And in the tribal phase, all he has to do is remember one item per TC. First TC was Orange, so the real HII was the beads. 2nd was Purple, so the real HII would have been the coin.
Yes, it'll get more chaotic come the merge, but that's what TPTB want to happen. That's why there's this circle of real and fake idols.
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Just now, violet and green said:
Oh. Delete previous posts.
Welcome to where I was last week with the math posts. 😉
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Brandon is Orange.
Carolyn is Purple.
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21 minutes ago, violet and green said:
I am fairly certain Brandon referred to the coin as a "medallion" and said, reading from the note, that it was not an idol, but he could do what he wanted with it. So, purple, real, beads; fake, coin.
No. Brandon specifically noted that he was given an "beautiful Orange medallion" with no power. And he turned in some beads as his real idol.
Danny on Green noted that his Large Green medallion was real, and the "amulet, coin" (ie, a coin on a string) was his fake.
Mike Bloom, the Survivor correspondent for Parade magazine, compiled the clips after this was discussed on Reddit.
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On 3/8/2023 at 8:16 PM, Jodithgrace said:
Also, my closed captions call him “Yam Yam,” but everybody calls him “Jam Jam.” Just makes me laugh. I guess it’s spelled Yam Yam, and pronounced Jam Jam. I guess I’d rather be named after a fruit spread than a sweet potato.
His full first name is "Yamil". Yam Yam is probably a family nickname that he likes and encourages everyone to use. And since he said he's Puerto Rican (I think?), that would explain the pronunciation shift of the Y to a J.
On 3/8/2023 at 9:57 PM, vb68 said:Yeah, I'm not really feeling Mr.Smartypants here. I mean, if other people think Helen is the smart one, then keeping her is good for him, right? I think Helen would had been a great ally(and potential shield) for him. Maybe he was a wee bit threatened?
Like Carolyn said herself, what does Carson really get from siding with her?
16 hours ago, seacliffsal said:I liked Helen, but I have a feeling that Carson was happy to target her as she was really smart and he obviously wants to be the most smartest person ever! to appear on Survivor. Her abilities threatened him so he went with the pair that was targeting her. Maybe Yam Yam felt the same as he stated she was 'too smart,' so maybe he felt a bit threatened as well.
This.
Or in the terms of another thread around here, Carson and Helen were both Foxes. He just decided to side with a Bunny (Yam Yam) and a Goat (Carolyn) rather than the other Fox and the unknown animal.
On 3/8/2023 at 10:04 PM, Lady Calypso said:I was REALLY hoping that Brandon would have had a confessional where he'd say "yeah, I feel betrayed by Matthew for using his SITD and not having my back." Instead, all the blame goes to Kane, who thought he was just voting with everyone else, not that he'd be the only one to take the fall after the fact because Jaime got paranoid and Matthew was too much of a coward to pick a side.
I think it was revealed in the post-episode 1 interviews that Matthew whispered something into Brandon's ear at TC.
15 hours ago, Nashville said:Gotta ask, though - and I’m pretty sure this same question came up for discussion a season or two back - when did TPTB drop the rule about not being able to sit out the same person in back-to-back challenges?
The rule has always been that you cannot sit the same person in back-to-back challenges unless they're combined RC/ICs.
The easier way to think of it is that TC resets the Sandra Bench.
14 hours ago, meep.meep said:So Carolyn has the idol from the birdcage, but she has mistaken the real one for the fake one. She never read the papers inside the pouch and so she thinks the coin one is real and the bead one is fake. It's the other way around. It'll be fun when she goes to play it.
2 hours ago, Cotypubby said:Why do people in this thread keep saying that Carolyn has the idols mixed up, as if that was something said in the show? It’s not!! Each team has a different combination of idol/fakes. At no point during the episode did the editors give any kind of notice that the idols were mixed up. No sound cue, no CU to the instructions, no flashback to her reading them, nothing. This is something that has been completely invented in this thread.
TBF, this is Carolyn we're talking about. From what we've seen of her, it's entirely believable that she'd muddle things up. But she didn't.
There are 3 different HIIs and 3 different fakes. And each tribe's real is another tribe's fake, and each tribe's fake is the third tribe's real.
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- Fake: Tribe Colored Medallion
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- Real: Tribe Colored Medallion
- Fake: Coin
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- Real: Coin
- Fake: Beads
Which means that TPTB set things up for idol chaos once the merge hits.
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15 hours ago, Cotypubby said:
No you are wrong here. Every drawing is dependent on the ones that came before, you can never pick the same straw or rock twice. That does not mean that the last person to choose has a 1:1 or 0:1 chance at winning. You have to add in the probability that the previous picks did not pull it. The math evens out that each pull has the exact same odds of 1/6.
Unless the first pick is revealed and then the next player picks. Then their odds would change.
Google this and read any mathematical answer. The odds do not change.
Yeah, you're right. Though I'm not entirely wrong; just less correct. My thought process was accurate to a point, but I hadn't completed all the logic and math.
I was focusing on just the probabilities of each individual draw, which do change with the number of available options to choose from (as in a 1 in 6 chance is a different probability from a 1 in 5).
But the overall odds for a draw are the sum of the potential probabilities of that draw multiplied by the probability those could occur (as in: depending on the outcome of the 1 in 6 draw, the 1 in 5 chance would come up 5 out of 6 times, while the 0 in 5 would only happen in the remaining 1 out of 6 times.) (Or as they say on the Discworld, million to one shots crop up nine times out of ten.) And in this case, those do indeed even out at 1 in 6.
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18 hours ago, Cotypubby said:
No she didn’t. The odds were exactly the same. If 6 people draw straws the odds do not change between the first person and last person picking. They all have a 1 in 6 chance.
Incorrect. The odds do change in both cases. Because the draws are dependent on each other. Once someone draws one straw of the six, you can't pick the same straw they did. So you have fewer choices to pick from, and thus different odds than them.
The only way that Jaime and Matthew would have had the same odds of drawing the SAFE scroll would be if the bag had been replenished in some way between their draws. Which, TPTB could have done. The easiest way would be to have an identical "back-up" scroll bag with the same 1 SAFE and 5 NOT SAFE scrolls and swap it out after one person draws from it, then they could check the first bag to see what was drawn and replace it, and repeat as needed during a TC.
But we don't think they do that, or do anything to replenish the bag during a given TC. Which means that the first person to draw from the bag does have the stated 1 in 6 chance of drawing the SAFE. But the second person at the same TC would only be drawing from 5 scrolls. Meaning they'd have at best a 1 in 5 chance of getting the SAFE, or at worst drawing dead with a 0 in 5 chance.
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8 hours ago, Skooma said:
Yeah and they TOTALLY leave my mind for the ALL part. I can't even tell you who won last season.
There was someone here saying a couple of time we all should have known who Maddy was immediately because of something or other. LOL! Hell, I didn't even know who she was when she was voted out. I had to come here to find out she was in that idol finding scenario.
Guess I don't really care about keeping all these people straight in my head out of the gate. About mid-season I start learning some names. And a couple of weeks after the season ends I forget them all again anyhow, haha. It is just an entertainment to me.
7 hours ago, violet and green said:I attach their names to their hair and facial hair. So curly haired with specs is Matt, and huge dark beard injured guy on Ratu is Mathew, and so on. I could only recognize Maddy when her hair was in plaits. But when the season ends, all the names go unless I really liked them and they didn't win.
3 hours ago, mertensia said:Wait - there's a Matt **and** a Mathew?!?!?
This season's Tracker thread's a-comin'.
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On 3/2/2023 at 1:23 AM, GaT said:
Yeah, what was with all the slo-mo? Did they just want to make sure we saw Bruce get hurt?
Partially that, so we would have the full context for everything surrounding him for the rest of the episode. And partially so we could "experience" it with him. Not only was there slo-mo, the audio was distorted, much like what he was probably hearing at the time. That moment was to draw us in to Bruce's plight in multiple ways.
16 hours ago, SuburbanHangSuite said:I am too! I mean, I seriously LOL'd when he's trying to reach through the birdcage bars saying, "Maybe it's candy!" Why would it be candy??!! 😂
But why couldn't it be candy? They've provided "hidden stashes" of supplies on previous seasons, and candy or other sweets were included. So why not this new thing?
13 hours ago, fishcakes said:Yes, I don't think it was neutrality. She seemed genuinely worried about getting voted out, which is weird because no one was thinking about her.
According to Maddy's post-boot interview, they actually were considering Jamie. So she did play her SITD for the possible safety.
12 hours ago, eel21788 said:More important question: after Jaime pulled out the SAFE parchment, was another SAFE added to the bag so Matthew would have the same odds, or did he completely waste his chance at being safe because that parchment had already been chosen?
AFAIK, a new scroll wasn't added, nor was the bag replaced. But depending on the actual order they drew, she did change his odds.
11 hours ago, Nashville said:No, IIRC - and technically (although counterintuitively, I know) Jamie’s draw didn’t change Matthew’s odds; although the selection pool immediately before Matthew only allowed him 5 possible choices, the chance of any one of those parchments being a SAFE was still 1 in 6. The mathematical odds did not change simply because one of the 6 was no longer available to him.
Incorrect. Assuming Jaime drew first, she absolutely changed Matthew's odds. Because the odds change with the total number of scrolls in the bag, regardless of what they say.
As we saw, she drew the lone SAFE. Meaning he had a 0 in 5 chance of drawing it. But if she drew one of the NOT SAFEs, he'd have had a 1 in 5 chance of getting the SAFE. Or, a 20% chance instead of the 16.67% she did.
This isn't like the Monty Hall Paradox of Do or Dies. It's more like Lena's Haybales.
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9 hours ago, Valerie said:
I listened to the first episode of the podcast. I thought it was pretty interesting, it was more behind the scenes than specific to the episode, though he did have a short interview with the player who was medivacced.
Same and same. I haven't subscribed to it, though I may do so after the next episode. Depends on how much I enjoy that one.
For anyone on the fence, it's not just Peachy hosting (though he does do a lot of the talking). One of the other producers of the show (who worked her way up from the Dream Team) Brittany Krapper, and Emmy-nominated producer of other tv shows Jay Wolff co-host. Jay's there for the fan perspective, with Brittany as a second BTS perspective. And the show is supposed to be a BTS show, using the episode as a springboard.
Other than the interview with Bruce, the main focus of the episode was about "Getting to Day 1". As in, how the crew prepares for a season, from the moment the previous season is over until just before the new castaways first put their feet on the sand. Which makes sense for both the season premiere and the podcast premiere. Peachy talks a bit about his reading and YouTube viewing habits, and how he sees everything through a Survivor filter. He also mentions that he'll occasionally call Elan Lee, one of the guys behind the game Exploding Kittens, to talk about game mechanics.
There's a segment at the end where one of the other hosts reads a fan message about "Why Jeff Sucks". And Peachy will either defend himself, or possibly agree with the assessment...or both. (There's also a short preview episode of the podcast, and they include this segment in that. That one was about whether Peachy would suck at playing Survivor himself, and he agreed with the fan's assessment that he would, but disagreed with the reasoning. The fan thought Peachy would have BMF, but Peachy thought he'd be the guy voted out with a Pocket Idol.)
Next episode is supposed to be about idols and advantages. That subject is going to be interesting.
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12 hours ago, LadyChatts said:
found out from people on SM first that Jeff had publicly invited him to return and definitely wants to come back (doesn’t care if it’s a returning player season or another season with newbies)
The invitation was on the new podcast, and Peachy said it was an open invitation. They want him back and are willing to work with him around his schedule to get him his second (first?) chance.
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8 hours ago, Dani said:
If that wasn’t enough he finally introduced a Black character last year with a trans joke. He flew under the radar because so few people actually read his comic strips now.
What also "helped" was that the "joke" backfired because it wasn't in a full-color Sunday strip. It was in one of the daily strips that are printed in black and white. All the characters, including the new one, had the same skin tone. Meaning that you couldn't tell by just looking that he was supposed to be anything other than another Caucasian.
The only reason I know this is that I was reading a Reddit thread about the Ohio newspapers that were dropping the strip (in favor of a plain grey box until they decide on a replacement) and the above issue and the strip in question were mentioned and linked to in the comment thread.
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I was trying to figure out an issue I reported, where posts were getting cut off. Said posts had a lot of emoji. It had seemed resolved, but it turned out it wasn't.
During one of the recent updates, I came across a note near the text entry box on a page that didn't have our theme on it that there was something about a 75 emoji limit. But I don't recall if that was per page, or per post. But that seemed like the reason for my issue. Or was at least a contributing factor.
So this thread was about me trying to run into that limit deliberately. And if/when I did, I would have made a new "bug" report.
Sorry for the brain hurting. I'm sure that that's why there's a limit in the first place.
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One of the things I liked about this season was the through-line about tough men showing emotion and that being an additional strength, not a weakness.
Though it was mainly centered around Sergio and his family's loss; by the end, there was also the sit-down he had with Jorge where the younger man broke down about his own familial loss, Ellery breaking down when he lost OT, the 3 finalists all getting emotional seeing their video messages just before the final competition, and Mister tearing up about his disappointment that he didn't win in his post-finals THs. And there's probably more moments like these that I don't recall off-hand.
Good on Phil and the team for doing their part to help normalize men displaying emotions.
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On 2/21/2023 at 12:14 PM, Fukui San said:
Glad you told this story. I'd heard the general outlines but I didn't realize that the move wasn't done maliciously. I'd always assumed that Hogan got angry and took it out on Belzer, not that he was trying to do something basic and it got out of hand.
To be honest, I think it was a bit of both.
On the one hand, Hogan probably was at least a little angry with Belzer. As I said, Belzer had been provoking Mr. T and Hogan in the interview leading up to incident. So he probably did want to put a little fear into Belzer to shut him up. Hence some of the banter Hogan had with Mr. T about T letting Hogan know when to let Belzer go before he engaged the hold.
On the other hand, he didn't really want to hurt Belzer that badly. A little bruising or some pulled muscles from trying to escape the hold, ok. But not a bleeding head wound. That's clearly evident from the look on Hogan's face when he sees the split in Belzer's head. He's horrified at what happened, because he wasn't expecting something so simple (to him) to go that wrong.
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Apparently, Belzer passed away in the house paid for by the settlement he received in his lawsuit against the (then) WWF and Hulk Hogan in particular. And if you haven't heard this story before, strap in, because this one's a doozy.
Back in the mid '80s, Belzer was the host of a cable talk show called Hot Properties. At the end of March of 1985, Mr. T and Hogan guested on the show to promote a little event they were doing that weekend - WrestleMania (the first one). As part of the interview, Belzer started asking questions about the common conception that "wrestling is fake" and challenges Hogan to "do a move" on him.
(Sidebar: as a pro-wrestling fan (though I haven't watched in many years), I have to clarify this. Wrestling is not fake. It may be a choreographed stunt show with a pre-determined result, but that does not mean it's fake. The events that happen in and out of the ring are (mostly) real. Those men and women are really doing what you see, while still taking care to not to actually hurt each other or themselves. Careers and lives have been lost. And accidental injuries can occur, as Belzer is about to find out.)
This wasn't something Hogan expected to be doing, so there was no preparation. And because Hogan is at least half a head taller and at least 100 pounds of muscle heavier than Belzer, he's trying to think of something he could do that wouldn't hurt Belzer. Hogan decides on a basic hold that is also used in amateur wrestling; a front chin lock, a variant of what is commonly called a sleeper hold. Basically, Hogan has Belzer's neck in the crook of his elbow, and he applies a little bit of pressure. This soon causes Belzer to pass out. After which Hogan releases Belzer; not just the hold - Belzer (although it also looks like Belzer just falls limply out of Hogan's arm). And the back of Belzer's head hits the studio floor pretty hard.
Hogan does help Belzer back to consciousness with a few light taps to the face. And Belzer pops up like a Jim Carrey jack-in-the-box, looks directly in the camera, and throws to commercial. (In an interview with Bob Costas years later, Belzer claims that he had a dream while unconscious about being late for the show, which explains why he's immediately back into showbiz mode when he comes to) Meanwhile, Hogan's got a stunned look on his face, because he's behind Belzer when he does this. Belzer then turns away from the camera, and we see why Hogan looks horrified. The back of Belzer's head is split open, and he's bleeding all over the back of his neck. The injury would require 8 or 9 stitches.
The episode would continue after the commercial break, but without Belzer. Someone (a producer, I guess) took over, saying that Belzer was really hurt. And Hogan was extremely apologetic. He says that he could apply 10 times more pressure to someone in condition to be in the ring and that wouldn't happen. Hogan also uses the opportunity to say "Don't Try This At Home."
Belzer would return to the show the following week where he re-aired the clip of the injury and showed off the stitches in the back of his head. Later, he and his wife would sue the WWF and Hogan for the personal injury. The suit was supposedly for $5 million, but they settled out of court for around half a million (reports go $100k in either direction). The Belzers used that money as the down payment for a house in France. And Belzer jokingly referred to the house as either "Chez Hogan" or "The Hulk Hogan Arms".
And it was apparently that house where he passed on.
Long clip of the original event, including the post-commerical segment here.
Shorter clip from the following week (at a slightly better quality) here.
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6 hours ago, Diana Berry said:
I think he was trying to help Lima out by picking her but he should have picked someone from the opposite team.
Only in retrospect. But Mister was trying to do the same thing Jorge tried to do in that other pairs challenge two episodes ago: set things up so that two members of the other team would go into OT. That's why also Jake and Larron immediately paired up after Mister picked Ilima.
Mister got the same results as Jorge did though.
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8 hours ago, supposebly said:
Overthinking and being overly critical of his romantic prospects sums up early Chandler Bing.
And you would supposebly be someone who would know.
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Retro TV Channels: ”The Good Old Days of Television”
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Enforced Method Acting?