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9 hours ago, Orcinus orca said:
Perhaps "complications" or "difficulties" would be more appropriate? Check this out.
Thanks for the link. It explains what the person hired to work with the animals does There is legislation governing the treatment of animals in films. It's main focus is the health and safety of the animals as "actors".
Britain seems to have had laws prohibiting cruelty to animals in film since 1937. I didn't read all the clauses - which would have been updated as more was learned how various circumstances can effect animals negatively.
So, the "restrictions" aren't about what people are allowed to see but what needs to be done to enable animals to "act". A lot of what is "allowed" requires time and patience... and as we all know: Time is Money. Working with animals is costly.
Here is a link to the wikipedia page re: Cinematograph Films (Animals) Act 1937
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinematograph_Films_(Animals)_Act_1937
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12 hours ago, peridot said:
I can't even imagine knowing my great-grandmother. It's sad Elizabeth has lost the people who knew her the best.
But I can. It was standard in my family—for all the life that I have known. There were pictures of 5 living generations from my mother's birth to the birth of my 1st nephew. It ended there. My generation and our children were not as co-operative in the reproduction cycle. (I credit birth control.)
But there is a certain sense of comforting continuity in those photos... and I intimately knew all the great grandparents. I thought it was normal. Lots of good stories of the olden days.
I can relate to the Elizabeth portrayed here.
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On 7/3/2023 at 2:45 PM, magdalene said:
Thursday did not die though they certainly trolled us into thinking he would. He and Morse did part on good terms though Thursday certainly fell off the pedestal in a terrible way.
No matter what Thursday said I believe that killing will haunt him. Morse showed mercy when he didn't tell him who he killed.
There seems to be so much packed into this ending. I wouldn't go as far as saying they parted on good terms. I think Morse was devastated and disillusioned by Thursday's final step away from being the man Morse wanted to emulate. Now he couldn't be trusted to do what was right but only to defend his little family "patch". That phrase "he wasn't MY son" has become Thursday's only ethical platform.
At least Bright got out with his integrity intact!
What remained for Endeavour was that he still loved Thursday and family. Perhaps felt indebted to them all for being his surrogate "normal" family. But now, I think his last act was more one of indebtedness than empathy or even love. Thursday had become a broken man and Morse was, once again, going to try to save him, but not like having his back—the way he would have before—but for the family. The only thing Thursday had left to live for.
So, yes, I agree that act is going to haunt Thursday. Morse too, because Morse has started to "play God" and decide who gets punished and who doesn't (not Thursday). Perhaps he's beginning to face up to the shades of grey within what is right and what is wrong. Don't think he likes it. That is what makes people jaded. His future sure looks to me like it's a direct line to the curmudgeon we first meet in Inspector Morse.
This ending satisfied my need for a good reason why the Thursday's never get mentioned again.
On 7/7/2023 at 7:33 PM, la patineuse said:I think Morse distancing himself from Thursday was in part because Thursday and his family have to go to ground, but I also think it was the lost trust and his utter disappointment in Thursday as well. At their final farewell, Thursday called Morse by his Christian name, but Morse corrected him and said, "Morse, Sir. Just Morse." It seemed as if Morse was solidifying the divide between them by not allowing Thursday the familiarity of using his first name. It was also a significant step in transforming young Morse to older Morse. Endeavour is gone and now he is just Morse.
It is true that Inspector Morse hated his given name. It would have been a source of embarrassment when he was a child. But we are at the point in the chronology where this formerly idealistic Morse is embarking on becoming the jaded, disillusioned man we meet in the original Morse. All he's got left are his principles. Endeavouring it too lofty to describe what he's about. I thought he was signalling both that he and Thursday are not on a first name basis, and that the name has no meaning in relation to who he is, in any way. Getting the murderer is primary. Not advancement for sure, and he never got that. And never again... to save a friend. (Or at least I can't remember if there were any other instances. I just remember him falling for—or being sympathetic towards—more than one woman who turns out to be the murderer.)
Bleak, but on the nose. That's my humble opinion anyway.
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20 hours ago, Cdh20 said:
We welcome dissection! Are you enjoying this season more than the last few?
Absolutely! But I have to confess that I have been spoiled. The Covid gaps were too much for me, so I passed the time listening to the books. That may be why I'm liking this season. The stories are moving along like they were taken from a reasonably edited version of whatever tome we are on now. 😎
SpoilerI'm sure I've forgotten at least 400 pages, but the show writers seem to be stitching everything together expertly. I can't remember enough of the audio books to write opinions from anything but what I am seeing here. It makes this season feel fresh and the plodding meandering that I felt listening to the books has become interesting and dissect-able.
I just started watching a week or two ago. Broke down and purchased a short subscribed to a streaming platform that offered a good deal (or so I thought), but airs everything on the Monday following the most recent airing.
Just one more sleep 'till I'm caught up. I like the casting decision on adult William. He comes across as a decent young man—which he should be given he was sired by Jamie and reared by John Gray! 😂
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22 minutes ago, Hanahope said:
Not every wedding ring has a gemstone. A lot of people wear simple bands. And I don’t think Roger ever bought her an engagement ring because it was impulse for him to search after her in the 1700’s.
IIRC he fashioned a "handfast ring" out of something non-metal. I remember seeing wedding photos in an article posted in the media thread where they displayed a wedding band on Bree's finger fashioned out of two metals (possibly gold and silver?)
Regardless of whether she still has that band; wearing metals or even items of clothing that could catch on the equipment (hence the coveralls) would have been against health and safety regulations even in the late 20th century. Bree's job was working with machinery and electrical stuff. I expect she would have complied with the regulations seeing as she was hired to enforce them.
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5 hours ago, ferjy said:
Whoa, I don’t think you got that most of my comment was just a joke! (running to see Mama and Da, not being as smart as her mother). Guess I’d better get the heavy sarcasm smiley out next time. But I stand by my opinion that she should have suspected. You hear that kind of buzzing and feel the dread, after you’ve been through it a few times and you should know, whatever circumstances you’re in.
@ferjy True. I did not get that it was just a joke. Thanks for clarifying.
However, I still disagree that she didn't know what she was hearing. She was in a desperate situation. Recognizing that she was confronted with a possible time travel portal was an unexpected impediment standing between her and what was clearly a possible way out. That was her "prime directive"—getting the hell out of there and going home.
When you've been "pranked" by your male coworkers in a malicious way—that could jeopardize your livelihood (if not your life)—it stays with you for a long time, takes over your thoughts... and you definitely need to vent... A LOT.
I know. It happened to me.
I viewed her reaction to the buzzing and the lights as her realizing what she was confronted with but it was just another obstacle. She overcame it, got out and put it behind her.
I have no issues with Sophie's acting. Perhaps that is why I see it different? I'm sorry, I don't recall if you are among the many who don't like her acting. We all have the right to our opinions. I apologize if I came across as rude.
It's been a long time since I last posted here. Be warned, I like to dissect episodes (if they don't annoy me). It's been a long while since I've had anything to say about the last few seasons. 🙄
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On 7/21/2023 at 5:06 AM, ferjy said:
You’d think she’d at least tell Roger about it even if she didn’t travel anywhere. Unless she didn’t realize. Would she really not clue in to what it was? I thought she did when she ran into it in hopes of seeing Mama and Da again, and I was wondering why she’d run through without telling anyone beforehand!
22 hours ago, ferjy said:By the buzzing sound, and that feeling of chaos they get. Brianna clearly felt that, given her reaction. It’s not a matter of knowing, but figuring it out. Wouldn’t be difficult to put two and two together. Claire suspected right away that the water in the cave in the Caribbean was a portal. Guess she’s smarter than her daughter. 😁 If I’d gone through that experience even once before (and they’ve now done it what, three times?) and heard and felt it again, anywhere, I’d stay well away from it, not jump right into/through it!
9 hours ago, steph369 said:That’s exactly what I thought, that her first thought would be to stay away before she went flying off to another time. Like you say, Claire thought it instantly, why wouldn’t Bree? How often do you hear such strong buzzing and get that feeling of dread? I was shocked that she actually went into it!
I may be a minority here, but I felt the biggest issue Brianna was facing in the tunnel at that moment was "How the f**k do I get out of here" along with "Stupid effing a**holes". Mr. Cameron and his lackeys had just locked her in, taken her keys, gave her a dead flashlight and their final words were: "Good luck, Madam Inspector. We'll leave your keys on your desk! " Then she could hear them driving away.
She was justifiably steaming mad. She quickly figured out how to turn lights on so she could get her bearings and be able to search for another way out. Good thing she was already familiar with the tunnel schematics.
Note: If they were willing to lock her in the dark with nothing, she could not rely on them returning to let her out. She didn't just sit around feeling angry, she channeled that anger into getting her bearings and looking for another way out.
I did notice the odd blue light and the buzzing sound (like she did), but I also saw what she saw past that floaty blue light... a door-shaped light a short distance past it. Grabbed a screenshot incase you missed it. See below. I put a black circle around it.
I assumed Bri saw her escape... blocked by a possible portal—if she could believe her senses. Her #1 priority was to get out of that tunnel. She gave the situation a quick assessment and decided the risk of possible un-planned time travel vs being stuck in the tunnel for who knows how long (and how her family would feel if she didn't come home from work) was worth the risk of trying to get past it as quickly a possible. That's why she ran through it so fast (not because she wanted to see her Mama and Da so bad she'd abandon her children and her husband.)
The next shot is her on the other side of the buzzing lights and getting out of the tunnel through the door.
If she'd been so scared of the buzzing and floating blue lights that she would choose to stay in the tunnel—when she was just a few yards from the door out—she would have proven that she didn't deserve her new job and would have caused panic for Roger, at least, when she didn't return home. Even I couldn't defend her if she did that.
But she didn't. She was still fuming mad when she got home. I don't blame her. She hadn't just been disrespected, she'd learned her co-workers did not have her back (in what could be a dangerous job) but instead had been willing to actually endangered her life. If she wasn't an engineer who had read the schematics she might have been stumbling around in the dark—ripe for an tripping accident.
So, I disagree that she isn't as smart as her mother. They both have smarts in their fields of choice. And Bri definitely had her priorities straight. Right up to the scene where she confronted those guys in the bar.
She IS the main breadwinner in the family now. She needed to keep her job and be safe doing it.
Encountering a Rando-Possible-Time-Travel-Portal was only annoying... and secondary info to her at that point. She retrieved it later when it was important.
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On 2/9/2019 at 9:24 PM, HazelEyes4325 said:
My two random thoughts here:
1 - Does anyone know who played the young Young Sheldon? His resemblance to Armitage was so strong that I wonder if it was a younger sibling.
2 - Am I the only person who expected, when Dr. Sturgis was first listening to Sheldon try to explain how he was wrong, for him to burst out with, "Inconceivable!"?
I'm late to this show. Just viewing it now, but I looked this up because I thought it would be interesting to know.
In case anyone else is still actually wondering...
Here is a link to the young actor who played young Young Sheldon;
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I was fine with the movie because at least we got closure.
Of course I would have preferred a final Season but that was not offered.
I am thankful to the actors and fans who lobbied for us to get this final wrap up.
It's better than just cutting it before the end.
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14 minutes ago, Zella said:
On Facebook, Penny encouraged disappointed fans to contact Prime's TV executive Vernon Sanders and she includes his email address. I didn't know if I was allowed to post it here.
Thanks Zella. Email sent: to vernon.sanders@amazonstudios.com
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This is very disappointing. Perhaps Amazon feels there is no market for cerebral mysteries? I agree some characters were miscast. And calling the series after the town? When lots of plots take Gamache to other Quebec locations (and one to Haida Gwaii, BC—the one story with an indigenous thread)—or to France? Yeah.
Louise Penny's books are sub-titled Three Pines Mysteries (or words to that effect) for a reason. It is the heart of the series not the main protagonist. Although, like Cabot Cove, it has more than its share of horrific events. Still, there was no way any of the book stories were going to give the show a bang-up start**. None of them are that kind of story. I've liked other adaptations by Left Bank Pictures (Outlander anyone?) They've got more integrity around book adaptations than many other production companies. (Although I'm on the fence re: the Crown, but it is not a book series.)
Anyone know how to lobby Amazon? I'm willing to contribute to that.
ETA ** Actually the book that starts with the big shoot out with ??? and the plot to blow up important Quebec infrastructures (that was it wasn't it?) might have been a possible big-bang start. And then spend a couple of seasons flashing back to the start? Too late for that now.
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On 2/5/2023 at 8:26 PM, HoodlumSheep said:
Opium dealer--kind of shocked Oskar & Max didn't suspect her of anything based on how their previous conversation went (how she wished all those dudes would rot). Weird how they just believed her about him falling into the water. The ending wasn't the most satisfying.
I saw that differently.
Given the non-verbal eye contact where Max & Oskar both looked at the large pool of blood at the edge of wooden walkway to the bar, I got the impression that they, at least, understood that she didn't "try to save him" but more likely assisted him into the water. But they had no actual proof she did that. They knew that man had killed a merchant for the "treasure" and she had basically repeated the very same story to them when she told them how she felt about the people she sold opium to. Perhaps they left her alone because they felt some sort of justice had been been carried out. They were looking for who killed the man in the hospital (or what ever it was), not for the treasure that he was part of stealing.
It seemed to me that Max & Oskar read each other's minds on that issue. Like they seem to do on quite a range of other things.
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On 2/4/2023 at 7:46 AM, Tardislass said:
Happy to see there is one more episode left. Hoping that the BBC renews it again as I love me some Max/Oskar ...
I've been totally enjoying the Max/Oskar repartee. The "your hat" business that was a staple of the first season. The "welcome to the case" ritual (and Max' resuming it for his father's benefit.) That one fell a little flat, but I was pleased to have a little nod to that particular ritual. The show is becoming a bit more subtle about these, but the "hat" thing is being reincarnated in this Season. The switching of hats to claim top bunk, the nod to the hat ritual when Max picked up the Landlord's hat and gave it to him after Oskar roughed the guy up.
And, last but not least, the fact that they tease each other but are comfortable enough to call each others bulls*t and have the other acknowledge they are right.
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14 hours ago, possibilities said:
I just realized I called the town Skeldale, but it's Darrowby. Skeldale is the house, not the town. I'm a little curious why it's called Skeldale, and not Farnon House.
Google search reveals that the name Skeldale House became synonymous with the vet practice because that is what Wight (aka James Harriott) called it in his very popular books. The real Sinclair/ Wight vet practice was located in Thirsk. From what I have read so far, the place officially became called Skeldale House in 2013, after it was bought by new owners and was preserved as a tourist attraction. https://worldofjamesherriot.com/explore-discover-visitor-attraction/
However, for fans of The Yorkshire Vet:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5016662/
That show was set in the Thirsk Skeldale Vet Centre. It ran from 2015 - 2022.
(disclaimer: this was a quick search, so feel free to correct anything you find that clarifies or corrects the above.) ☺️
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I finally got around to finishing this Season. I do hope there is another!
The best thing, for me, about this adaptation is that it appears to be keeping the essence of the characters and mix-&-matching the plots from a few books to present something that feels both new-yet-familiar to me.
I've read all the books—except the most recent one which I am on the very-long-library-waiting-list for. But this version challenges me with new twists or takes on old plot lines. Given that there are now 18 books to draw from... And that the many characters grow and develop throughout the span of these books... I believe there is enough material to cover a couple more seasons without veering too far from the path Louise Penny laid out for them. All that and still surprise book readers.
I've got my fingers crossed. I really love that the material has been updated to reflect current issues.
I would also love to hear what non-book readers make of this adaptation. That's the only way I'm likely to know if it is successful. Currently I'm completely satisfied only because I can happily live with the changes. I am unable to judge it only on its merits as a show.
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I've only watched as far as episode two, but I am already relaxing into this translation from books > film.
I'm good with the changes. I feel that the essence of the main characters are being accurately portrayed. (my opinion of course). And I actually really appreciate the updating of the underlying "issues" to make them more relevant. It was also a good move to leave book 1 as its own movie: Still Life.
Starting with the 2nd book allowed an easy transition regarding the big house at the top of the hill into a residential school.
I'm even good with the decision to age up Jean Guy (although I agree I found him too old to start with). However, I'm assuming that the decision to focus more on Isabelle will result in less of the Jean Guy storylines. So basing this show's Jean Guy on the later, less emotionally unstable incarnation seems a good decision. Guess I'll have to wait and see how accurate that assumption turns out to be.
One of the things I like about Louise Penny's writing for these books is that she takes her time to expose the experiences that make the characters into what we first meet, and then folds the changes that focusing on them brings into how they behave in subsequent storylines. That is what I hope to see as I watch more episodes. Recurring denizens of Three Pines getting their own in-depth exposé.
Sorry to those of you who prefer to give the police corruption stories a pass: that is Gamache's story line growth. I can't see it being cut.
Although I miss the early touches the books gave us on the daily interactions between Three Pines residents, I'm hoping some of them will emerge in other episodes/ story lines.
My current rating is 👍👍
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On 12/7/2022 at 8:31 AM, Zella said:
It seemed strange that they only looked at the photographer's photos of the curling event, and never asked everyone else for their photos / videos.
On 12/7/2022 at 8:31 AM, Zella said:I agree that is strange, but I think that may be a dated relic from the book, which was written in 2006 before cell phones were quite so ubiquitous. It would definitely be something for the showrunners to update, though.
It's been quite a while since I read the books, but I'm pretty sure that in Book 1 a big point was made about how "invisible" Three Pines is. It couldn't be found using GPS. Also IIRC it is (was?) a bit of a black hole for cellular reception. That played a role in the early books. So not only were cell phones not a thing for the time it was written, but wouldn't be a thing in Three Pines regardless. (The locals supposedly preferred it that way.)
However, that was not explained for these episodes, so it is a reasonable thing to wonder about.
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17 hours ago, gingerella said:
I think we're talking about the first big 'do' that Colum threw with the musician who played that harp-like instrument. He had a haunting voice and sang a tale about a woman, I thought it was a woman, who came through the Stones from another time, and then one day she went back. Claire was sitting with Jamie in the hall, translating the Gaelic song and Claire says, 'so she could go back!' and thats when she started plotting going back to Craigh na Dun. Does that ring a bell?
That right, @gingerella I found it. It clearly echoed Claire's own experience which made her hope it mean she could go back.
This is a transcript of the end of S01E03 The Way Out:
Jamie: Now this one is about a man out late on a fairy hill on the eve of Samhain who hears the sound of a woman singing sad and plaintive from the very rocks of the hill.
Gwyllyn (the singer):
"I am a woman of Balnain.
"The folk have stolen me over again, '
"the stones seemed to say.
"I stood upon the hill, and wind did rise, and the sound of thunder rolled across the land."
"I placed my hands upon the tallest stone
"and traveled to a far, distant land
"where I lived for a time among strangers who became lovers and friends."
"But one day, I saw the moon came out
"and the wind rose once more.
"so I touched the stones
"and traveled back to my own land
"and took up again with the man I had left behind."
Claire: She came back through the stones?
Jamie: Aye, she did. They always do.
The only reference to a man is that he overhears the song. The time travel and return aspect is that Claire's own experience is reflected in the song's folk history regarding the fairies taking the woman to a far and distant land and her returning back to the man she left behind.
It may have been different in the books, but this is the only reference made in the show. The next gathering is when Jamie doesn't swear an oath to Colum.
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13 minutes ago, DoctorAtomic said:
It was way early on, when they went to the big banquet at the lord's house. I know it was the first season.
The only instance of any other time Traveler in S01, that I can recall, was the mysterious Scottish man that Frank encountered looking up at Claire in her window.
A lot of us think that was Jamie, but it’s a stretch at best at this point in the story.I don’t remember anyone else. Even at the Laird’s feast.
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On 4/26/2021 at 7:03 AM, DoctorAtomic said:
The show has said early on that the stones only go 200 years ish.
On 4/27/2021 at 10:04 PM, Camera One said:Interesting. I must have missed that. Was it in Season 1? There didn't seem to be any real authority on how the stones work, so I think I assumed that what people said about the stones was guess-work. Even someone like Geillis, who actually did research, could not have known for sure. I always wondered how Geillis was confident she could go forward in time to right before Claire gave birth, to kill Brianna. That made me think the destination depended on what the time traveller was thinking and wishing for.
If it has to be 200 years, I guess the 1570s would either be more contact with the indigenous tribes or maybe Spanish explorers. If it were the 1970s, Brianna's OMG could simply be "All those trees were flattened for a parking lot"?
But once the story introduced Geillis the whole concept of 200 years didn't make sense, unless "ish" means "give or take 20 odd years".
Claire left in 1945, right?, and she arrived in 1743. That is 202 years. Geillis left 1968 and she arrived in the past prior to 1743. Long enough to have learned how to successfully survive and marry a couple of times before she met Claire. That could add at least another 25 years to the 202 years that Claire traveled back in time. It just doesn't compute.
I agree with the part in bold. At least from what we've seen so far.
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On 3/8/2020 at 12:37 PM, nara said:
Ok, am I the only one who thinks Jamie is a terrible dancer?
🤣🤣🤣
I only got Murtagh and the two who "danced" before him to compare him to. Murtagh gave us his version of the sword dance when he and Claire were traveling the countryside trying to get Jamie to contact them — back when Black Jack Randall was still in the show.
Murtagh's was angry and anything but graceful. Compared to that? Jamie's was perfect. He executed the starting bow correctly, but didn't include the swords in any of his steps.
Still, I don't think he was a terrible dancer. Not a great one, but not terrible.
I'm also on board the Marsali love train. It clearly is better to have her on your side than against you. 😬
I'm also enjoying the way new characters are being added. It feels pretty organic. I'm enjoying the twins. They are clearly there for a reason, but I can wait for the other shoe to drop.
Bonnet's appearance has to be just around the corner. The amuse bouche during the opening song—of the coin knuckle-rolling—went on long enough for me to decide that must be Bonnet rolling the coin. And it was confirmed (for me) when the coin was found in Jemmy's basket. I expect the plan is to get us all tense about when and where he will show up... THEN... it will end up being much more mundane than we expect. Gotta keep the viewers off kilter.
And as my last word? Roger can sing anytime he likes. I've been enjoying his singing. Did he sing in any previous season? I don't have a memory of it he did.
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On 2/7/2022 at 5:37 PM, Camera One said:
Murtaugh's personality completely changed. If they really wanted to do this story, they would have needed to show us a bit of what happened to Murtaugh in the last 20 years and what triggered this change.
You've made a lot of good points in this discussion, @Camera One. I wasn't happy to see such a hard-nosed and heartless Murtagh, and I agree with this quote. It is a weakness of this show—and even of the couple of books I've read. There are large leaps in time in both. That makes it impossible to do anything but speculate on the personality changes.
On 2/8/2022 at 8:26 PM, Camera One said:But then again, he knew all about the harsh injustices back in Scotland which were often even more egregious and didn't become radicalized.
See, I don't think everyone changes their behaviour due to momentary revelation. Certainly not our Murtagh. He had 20 years where he was free from the oath he gave to young Jamie and his deceased mother. Jamie and he were on different continents. Both were prisoners in those different locations, but Murtagh didn't have Jamie to look out for. He's had time to reflect on what happened at Culloden, and the fact that the British attitude towards him and his people had not changed a bit. When his term of indenture was over, he had a better opportunity, in the new world, to make his own way. And the ratio of settlers to British soldiers was far greater—and more diverse—than back in Scotland. Most of them had come to get away from the clutches of the British, so there were fewer of them willing to accept becoming a clone of the old world.
I think Murtagh grew into becoming his own man by the separation from his oath-to-serve-Jamie. Because we WEREN'T shown all the incidents that led him to decide that opposing, rather than acceding-to, was the only path to be rid of the British oppression... all we've got is the changed behaviour to go on. I don't find it impossible that he would have grown into this political stance. In the new world he wouldn't have been alone in that.
He knows that Claire, Brianna and Roger have said that there will be a war that will rid his new land of the British, but Murtagh was never a man to let things happen around him. He knows he has to be part of the change to ensure it happens. The problem is that he is not the strategist that Jamie is. He fights what is in front of him.
The most poignant part of the Murtagh/ Jamie leave-taking—for me—was Murtagh asking if Claire had told Jamie what happens with the Regulator movement, and Jamie being unable (or unwilling) to tell him.
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13 minutes ago, Camera One said:
...it would make Jaime's action seem smarter when interpreted in this way.
Hmmm. I think Jamie Fraser may owe me a favour. 😉
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On 4/8/2021 at 9:51 PM, Camera One said:
Was Jamie's ceremony supposed to show the Governor's men that he is a force to be reckoned with, or something? What happened to his earlier comment that he can't afford to lose his land and fight?
I was sure I heard some reason given in a conversation between Jamie and Claire this episode. So off I went to re-watch with closed captioning on! Following is the scene I was remembering. It came right after Jamie was introduced to Lieutenant Knox who would be staying to
ensure thatassist Jamie in hunting Murtagh. Governor Tyron left for a more urban environment right after that. Jamie goes in the house to let Claire know what Tryon expected from him.Claire: What's the matter?
Jamie: Tryon is leaving a troop to aid me in the hunt. We leave in a week. [sighs]
Claire: And if you refuse to hunt Murtagh, then Tryon takes back our land?
Jamie: He'll brand me a traitor. I signed an oath to the crown.
Claire: Please. Tryon would renege on his oath to you the moment it suited him, - or if he could profit from it.
Jamie: Aye. When this war you tell me about eventually comes, well, then, I'll reconsider my vow, but I dinna have the luxury of that now. Because of our family, our tenants. If there is a war, I need to ensure the men of the Ridge are loyal to me, not to Tryon.
Claire: The men of the Ridge would do anything for you.
They talk about Roger's lack of fighting skills briefly and then Jamie leaves the room claiming "If Tryon wants a Scot... I'll gee him a Scot."I thought he was referring to Murtagh but he went directly to his warrior chest and put on his Clan gear. Soon after came the scene where Jamie— looking every inch a Scot Laird— creates The Fiery Cross of the episode title. He then reminds his friends and tenants of the old country traditions and that he is not their Laird, but to protect them he needs their oath that they will trust and follow him.
This was how he could ensure the men of the Ridge were loyal to him and not Tryon. He knew there would not be a better time because they were all there , because Tryon had already threatened they would go to war against the Regulators and because Jamie would be off in 1 week Regulator hunting. So, no time like the present.
In one act—that would appear to the British soldiers ,who witnessed it, as nothing more than Scottish pageantry—he secured his men's loyalty and told them what the call-to-arms signal would be—a second Fiery Cross.
I'd call that very efficient script writing and a lovely call back to S01, when Jamie was faced with a different oath swearing dilemma. Great job!
On 4/27/2020 at 2:43 PM, Blakeston said:The biggest shock of the episode, for me, was that Roger and Brianna waited a significant amount of time to get married after Roger came back to Fraser's Ridge. What happened to the huge race against time, where Brianna had to get married ASAP, because her child's life would be ruined if anyone knew he was a bastard?
I hadn't noticed that as strange but started to wonder about it when a few people remarked on it. (above quote is for example only). But after a bit of thought, the whole Brianna HAS to be married before the baby is born was because:
1 - She "appeared" to be unwed. By that point, Claire & Jamie knew that Brianna and Roger were "Hand Fast" which was as good as wed back then. The problem was that there were no witnesses to that—except Roger—who was MIA and possibly dead.
2 - Once Roger was rescued, he could attest to their Hand Fast ceremony. BUT he still hadn't decided to stay and accept the child as his. Once he did that, the wedding could be timed to meet whatever conditions they set for themselves. No hurry. It would just be the more social and religious version of a legal contract they had previously entered into.
Olden days equivalent of Registry Marriage now // Church Wedding "for the parents".
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S04.E01: Elysium
in Miss Scarlet And The Duke
I have a lot of the hesitations (complaints) about this 1st episode that other's have laid out. I kept thinking "haven't we seen this before?"
But there is enough that I liked to keep watching.
I think Eliza's biggest obstacle is that she wants to be in control of her life. Her father brought her up in such a way that she WAS (for the most part). She was confident in knowing what she wanted and believed she deserved to act that way because men did it all the time.
I also think it has been made clear that she knows that marriage would alter her legal rights to act that way. Men were still in control of their wives decisions and money back then. She seems to also be aware that if she gives in to her hormones her entire life will change (if/when she gets pregnant... and a married woman didn't have the legal right to say No). She will have no legal "Right" to make her own decisions about her own body. That is not to say she and William couldn't work that out between them, but it is much easier to stand on your rights than convince by discussion if you are the one with all the legal rights to do so.
Eliza has been presented as a woman who needs to be in control of her own life and doesn't see why she shouldn't or can't be allowed to.
That was set up back in S01 (or that's how I saw it) and I always see her backing away from saying yes to a traditional relationship with William—despite how she feels about him—because she knows the law only allows her to make her own decisions because 1) she is unmarried, and 2) she is a property owner.