sue450

oh I am still catching up a few pages behind I didn't get to it yet!

yes it is called "blanket training" from the book by mr and mrs pearl called "how to train up a child" several children were killed from their parents using the torture in this book, michelle helped them sell this book and they helped the duggars sell their books

did you know the rebers daughter is courting one of annas (josh wife) brother

ohhhhhh this reminds me of another ankle bracelet story...guy being released from prison And (I kid you not) they put the ankle bracelet on his artificial leg (yes you heard me right!) so he is at home slips off the artificial leg and the bracelet with it!!!!!!!!! I am sure someone lost a job over that!!!

he has an ankle bracelet so he can be tracked

oh this reminds me there was an episode where the duggars were in a aprking lot and they gave a bunch of food to a very needy family then, when the taping was over they took the food back

they are told they have no control over their urges but they are not allowed to masterbate/self pleasure so many things wrong with this cult

you make good points...michelle had a some what normal life she went to school, was on the gymnastcs team,dated boys, mowed the front lawn in her bikini......she married jim bob when she was 17 and took birth control pills she had josh went back on the pill and had a very very early ending of pregnancy..a religious dr told then it happened because she was on "the pill" they went full on religious after that...................at one point jim bob was running 1999 to 2003 for office and they were living in a little 3 bedroom house from the church 11 kids by 1999 and 14 kids by 2002 in that 3 bedroom house......they literally lived on rice (one of the daughters said at one point)

anna and the duggars are in the bil gothards cult......they think the men have no control over their lust...the word abuse is not used it is a MATTER handled by the church...A woman who filed suit against bill gothard said he told her to thank her father for molesting her when she was a child because it made her spiritually stronger......being abused is a badge of honor..........PTSD, anxiety, trauma depression do not exist, if you have any of these you are not trusting enough in god....if a woman want to go get an education or job out in the world she will be under the influence of satan and terrible things will happen ( she will be raped or her child/children will be murdered)..........this is TERRIBLE and especially the females get a bare bones education at the kitchen table.......watching the duggars the daughters always seemed emotionally and mentally stunted and much younger than their their physical years...... it is no surprise with the way they were raised.....and don't forget the horrors of blanket training starting when the baby is 6 months old because according to mr pearl a 6 month old baby is manipulating you...several children died from parents using the ABUSE tecniques from this book ( how to train up a child)

no the parents were on the same show the same time with the 2 daughters being interviewed by megan kelly

joy was the one in the laundry room she was only 5 years old he had her on his lap while he diddled her......some one filed FOIA (freedom of information) papers and the report with all the details had to be released, names were blacked out but you just had to look up the ages of the duggars at the time this happened to figure out which sisters were molested

oprah was supposed to have the whole duggar family on in 2006...... she got a tip the day before about josh molesting his 4 sisters and the baby sitter and that the parents (michele and jim bob) had hid this info.....she canceled and had her company call child services............the tipper apparently knew the duggars and borrowed a book from them one day....inside the book was a letter talking about josh molesting his sisters and the baby sitter......It is like joshs molesting his sisters and baby sitter was meant to come out...........TLC ran their first duggar special 2 years later so how would they NOT know about this?

josh is not very bright...when the investigors showed up at the used car shack where he was working they didn't say WHY they were there ...josh pops out with why are you here? was someone watching child porn???

yes the girl caleb got pregnant was under age and her parents got a restraining order against caleb

exactly this what jill said..now think about the fact that NONE of the local fundy dads would let josh marry their daughters. duggars got anna from FLORIDA....this is the tip of the iceberg. does anyone remember the mini golf episode...jim bob up against michelles back side trying to help her golf and they start dry humping in front of their kids and THEN said as they are doing this laughing ha ha you can't do this..... remember they follow bill gothard..the word "abuse" does not exist it is not a big deal in their cult...BUT if you are abused you are to thank the one who did it to you because it made you spiritually stronger also PTSD, stress, trauma, depression, shyness do not exist, if you suffer from these you are not trusting of god. the outside world is evil...if you are a woman and you want to get a job or go to school you will be under Satans influence something terrible will happen (you will be raped or your child will be murdered). women must have sex when ever and how often the husband wants it because the men have no control over themselves....IF the man strays it is the womans or even the female childrens fault. if you leave you will be shunned by family and friends now think about this ...Michelle had a somewhat normal; life out in the world before she married jim bob (the super religion started a couple of years into their marriage)..she went to school was on the gymnastics team, dated a bunch of guys, wore a bikini when she would mow the front lawn.....so when michelle speaks of how evil and bad the outside world is it will be that much more believable to anna, and the duggars will do everything and anything to keep her from leaving the bubble

duggar family friend caleb worked with him....he got arrested for getting a girl pregnant and at the same time they were looking for calebs brother to arrest for doing "something" to some sort of abuse to children edited to add the girl was under age and the parents filed a restraining order against him

does anyone remember when jim bob ran for political office he said that pedophiles should get the death penalty...wonder how he feels about that now..........one other thing when the agents showed up they didn't say WHY they were there...so josh asks why are you here did someone download child porn?????? yes josh really said this to the agents

don't forget when josh was before the elders in the church..the way they got him to confess was they threatened to shave an innocent girls head (gothard says all females MUST have long hair.), so to do this to a female in this cult would be devastating.

the duggars follow the teachings of Bill Gothard which says "abuse" does not exist....the behavior is "inappropriate" and handled by the church. you are to thank your abuser because the abuse made you spiritually stronger being abused in any way is considered a badge of honor...Anxiety PTSD depression traUMA ...do not exist, if you have these symptoms YOU ARE NOT TRUSTING IN GOD. men have no control over their urges so if they cheat it is the womans fault she is to do sex whenever and how often he wants it if a woman wants to work outside the home or go to school they will be open to spiritual attacks by satan something really bad will happen (she will be raped or her children may be murdered. this is why anna will not leave this is a CULT not a religion they live in a bubble anything in the outside world is bad if they ever have the courage to leave they will be shunned by family and friends and it will take years of therapy to undo the damage this CULT inflicts on people

there are perverted people on line who would enjoy a picture like that....they will copy the pics and save and share them...Also there a people with mental problems..I saw a story where a lady copied pictures of some other ladys twins and pretended they were hers...she even had their pictures in frames on the walls of her house...she said she had twins that were taken away and she used these as a substitute..turned out she never had any kids!

danielles grandfather died in 2006 mimi (her mom) has 2 sisters and 4 brothers....I saw 2 sons in law listed with the grandfather but neither one was married to mimi

oh and god help you if the room hildie had to redo had a ceiling fan....she hates ceiling fans and removed them from every room she ever did that had them!

yes it actually involved doug and of course hildie!! one did the entire room in white and the the other did the entire room in black on the same episode!!

hildie was the WORST on trading spaces...straw on the wall....million flowers stapled to the bathroom wall...a whole room made with cardboard (yes even the furniture was cardboard) she struck fear in the hearts of the homeowners that she would be the designer their neighbors would get to deign the room in their house

yes her show "windy city rehab" she is annoying always having problems....many houses had work stopped they couldn't get the permits and she blamed everything on her partner donovan who I think might be be suing her now...just google her AND her show or got to the forum on this link!