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  1. About Roseanne having more career advancement at the salon than Rodbells...

    I think it's a mistake to assume that Roseanne's character wanted to advance.

    I know we think of Roseanne Bar as progressive and "liberated" woman, but that's not how she portrayed Roseanne Conner.

    In all the season 2 episodes that involve her finding a new job, her need to be at home with the kids nights and weekends took precedent. 

    In season 3, she tells Becky's principal that she doesn't have a career, she has a job. Her kids are her career.

    When she goes to Darlene's home ec class, she does so primarily because she percieves Dan being invited to speak as a diminution of the value of a wife and mother.

    In season 4, it's revealed that Roseanne is part time at Rodbell's and "comes and goes as she pleases." She likes working there because it fits her schedule. As a luncheonette, I presumed it wasn't open for dinner and that's why closing time seemed to be around 5-6pm.

    Seasons 2-3 Dan was consistently employed and always had jobs lined up. He was clearly the breadwinner and Roseanne worked mostly to supplement the family income and for the social element. She wasn't looking for job advancement or s career. Just for something to provide a bit of money and get her out of the house.

    In season 5 on the other hand, Roseanne Arnold seemed to have realized "hey, the show is called Roseanne, not Dan so why is it about him owning a business. It should be about me owning a business!" and Roseanne the character had higher aspirations.

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  2. 4 hours ago, Steff said:

    My Sweet Lord, but wasn't that Crystal's bachelorette party and not Darlene's 16th party?

    After the 1st meeting of Kathy Bowman, how uptight does Roseanne say Kathy is? 

    You are right! 

  3. 46 minutes ago, readster said:

    Yes, I hated when Roseanne left the salon because she was moving forward with things. She was even starting to do hair and other things that could have lead to her getting a cosmotology license, but that would mean Roseanne would have to get more education and stuff. That can never happen to Roseanne, remember: "Don't live beyond your education." 

    I've talked about this a few times.

    Hair salon = classic sitcom tropes. It was like an old WW2 movie with an ensemble of broadly drawn characters. The ditzy blonde, the kind of kooky older woman boss, the ethnic stereotype who is actually the most normal, eccentric and oblivious rich woman and former boss to Roseanne, and, a revolving door of "characters du jour" of salon clients. Plus, it gave Crystal something to do.

    Imagine the show like this for 9 years? It would be like every other lousy sitcom.

    Yes, it was better for the character to stay, but her leaving was better for the audience.

    In the season 2 hiatus, Roseanne consolidated power and took control of the show. Fired all the salon actors (and a lot of people behind the cameras) and decided she wanted to have the character work as a waitress.

    Roseanne the person credits working in a bar as her launching pad to doing stand up. She had a great raport with the barflies and they had a great comedic back and forth.

    This is what she was comfortable with and was what she wanted to do on the show. Look at her character at Rodbells. Fires off a bunch of smart alec quips with the customers and employees.

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  4. 40 minutes ago, UYI said:

    The Shirelles!

    What restaurant did Dan and Roseanne send Darlene off to with her friends after embarrassing her with a Sweet Sixteen party?

    Pizza King *I think*

    In that same episode, what song was playing in the car that wasn't coming from the radio?

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  5. 3 hours ago, iMonrey said:

     

    The Conners took out a second mortgage on their house for the bike shop (which didn't make much sense because Ziggy ended up leaving them the money)

    Why doesn't it make sense? Robert Barone at the bank said they would need the wad of cash in Ziggy's boot PLUS a second mortgage on the house.

    The banker says something like "No Dan, you are the drywall business... What do you got in your other boot?"

    Then as a last resort he says his boss will know they are serious if they take a second mortgage.

    Sad we only have a couple eps left and still no clue what happened to the Lunchbox.

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  6. 17 hours ago, janie jones said:

    Well, I'm not familiar with the scene in question, but it sounds to me like this person doesn't actually think it's a nice place, and once they start talking they realize they don't want to refer to it as a house or "home," so they say "place."

    Thanks for that.

  7. 2 hours ago, Aileen said:

    This. I thought it was pretty well implied that he couldn’t resist due to pyschological issues.

    I took it as a spot on commentary of how poorly we take care of our veterans. 

    But it got a stereotypical "laugh track" laugh out of the audience. If they wanted to make a point about something fine, but they made it just a throw away line for a cheap laugh.

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  8. 10 hours ago, Laurie4H said:

    CNN and MSNBC aren’t any better.

    The cashier’s comments just seemed very contrived.  Would someone really speak like that?  Especially the younger generation who are all about tolerance and equality?  Or maybe they were trying to convey the of ignorance of some people in a small town.

    About as contrived as the neighbour boy wearing an actual bulletproof vest. Like where would these food stamp people get a bullet proof vest likely worth thousand (s) of dollars? Why couldn't it have been a child's policeman dress up toy bulletproof vest? Why did it have to be the real thing?

    7 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

    Eh, I don't think Fishman cares all that much. He's pretty much been out of the limelight for years and from what Roseann has said he likes it that way. He has other projects going on that have nothing to do with acting, is fairly successful in his own right and he is happy. I got the impression he has used his Roseanne money wisely. He and Roseanne have stayed close throughout the years. At least that's what she said on that crazy short lived reality show she had featuring her nut farm in Hawaii. He even came to visit her one episode. 

    I think the revival is the biggest thing in Fishman's life since the end of the original show run. He was one of the biggest social media posters when they were filming.

    He made it seem like he was an integral part of the show.

    Someone here posted a quote from him about how he tweeted that all his fans needed to wait for "his" episode because he was barely in the previous 7 episodes. This was his episode and his wife Gina has now had more lines in this single episode than he's had in the entire revival.

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  9. Feel pretty bad for Michael Fishman. Finally he gets to be in an episode and when he drops Mary off he says "Ok, well I'm leaving now to go to the VA"... Basically his role in this ep was just to drop Mary off and then leave. Luckily he came back for that scene with Dan. It's obvious they don't know what to do with his character. I think out of 6 or 7 episodes now, this is only his third appearance? The other 2 were 15 second cameos.

    I also thought that joke about "there's so many veterans living on the sidewalk already" was in REALLY bad taste and I found it offensive.

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  10. On 5/3/2018 at 4:48 PM, bigskygirl said:

    I would have love to see Jackie working at a desk job until her back was healed well enough for her to go back to patrol, and Roseanne getting a secretary job with the police department. Heck Dan could have gotten a job as a correction officer too. I started hating the original show when Jackie left the force, Roseanne got the waitress job, Dan brought the bike shop, and Becky started dating Mark.

    I don't think they really want to deal with the "work lives" of the characters in the revival. Roseanne does uber because it's sporadic. If they need a scene where she's working, they can do it. If they need an entire episode where she's not working, they can do it. Same with Jackie as a life coach. Her professional life is off camera as it's not a 9-5 job.

    We still don't really know for sure what Dan does but in this ep he says he was fixing up a neighbour's house. Again, something he can/can't be doing if the script requires it.

    Darlene is unemployed.

    The only workplace we see is Becky's and it's so cliche and tacky and stupid. Does it have to be a Mexican restaurant? Somehow that's innately funny? Just a regular restaurant or diner isn't funny enough? I think Rodbell's and the Lunchbox were funny enough without the gimmick.

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  11. 6 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

    Donald.

    What did Ed bring as a gift?

    Pretty sure that was the VCR where the Conner family lept into the 1980s.

    What would Ed have won if he got the first place prize?

  12. 23 hours ago, AM1418 said:

    He was shot by a sniper.

     

    When Jackie caught Booker at the Lobo with another woman (who was obviously not his mother) what did she do to exact revenge? 

    Pretended to be his wife.

    Where did Jackie want to take Booker in that episode?

  13. Bill Maher addressed the Roseanne revival on his show the other night.

    I'm mentioning it only because he talked about his appearance on the episode where Roseanne buys Dan the boudoir photo set. Basically says it was just a way of her putting some money in his pocket when times were tough.
     

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  14. 2 hours ago, Glory said:

    The thing about Johnny appearing on this show is that he probably has a LOT of clout at CBS with TBBT being their biggest comedy. He's a highly paid actor who they are pretty much begging to come back year after year at the point. They're going to let him do whatever he wants if it might mean more TBBT episodes (and hence more money) for CBS. 

    He makes a million dollars an episode on TBBT - he can work for free on Roseanne if he really wants to - and since he's publicly said that season 12 of TBBT is probably his last he can kind of afford to burn bridges at this point. In interviews it seems as if he's enthusiastic about more Roseanne episodes and not so enthusiastic about more TBBT episodes FWIW. CBS will do what it can to make one of its biggest stars happy for as long as it can - look at all the weird freaking hoops CBS jumped through to keep Two and a Half Men on the air. 

    Roseanne is a huge hit. I don't think he will be working for free lol.

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  15. 7 hours ago, eskimo said:

    Before the revival was announced I would come to this thread occasionally and there was light activity once in a while, but now, NOW, this place is exploding and It. Is. Great!  I love that so many other people love the show that I do.  I enjoy all the discussion and different perspectives, even those that don't necessarily align with my own.  Thanks everybody!

    I find 99% of the activity is in the individual episode threads. The first 2 episode thread exploded after the premiere.

    Since then, activity in the subsequent episode threads has really tapered off.

    The other threads are still mainly populated by the "regulars" here.

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  16. 1 minute ago, Chicken Wing said:

    But seriously. Ser-i-ous-ly. What sorcery is responsible for Estelle Parsons not aging a damn day in 20 years?

    They should have made a follow up joke to the episode in the original run where she goes into the nursing home and Jackie says something like "or, she becomes a vegetable, lives for another 30 years and hits the jackpot!"

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