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MY wife and I had a 'tug of war' over this. We were playing 'role reversal'...what ifs. If Adrain was a woman, and Deran, her boyfriend...would Deran have gone with "Adrian" then, and leave his family behind? Lets us hear or 'read' your concept on this...just for the heck of it.

I thought that too at the time, but in retrospect it could have been taken in a way that he was saying, of all the people he fell in love with, it had to be someone like a Cody, and their history.

Why did they bring Billy back? Maybe they needed someone to tell Pope about Deran was leaving? BTW, which one is Billy in the Flashback, if he is there at all? Nice moment Pope and Deran.. I wish I had a dollar for how many times 's..t' was mentioned.. and not one F..k. I like to get into the psychology of the Deran character. As a gay man, he does not strike me as the typical 'cruiser'. In other words, he was a 'one man' lover. Now, at his young age, after losing Adrain , does he go out looking for a replacement, if so, where would he go? Maybe he may turn 'Flip-Flop"...or does he go Celibate? It would be interesting to see if they have any love life in store for him. BTW, I thought his performance was great during most of his scenes, especially at the end with Adrian. The one thing that I thought they would show, would have been a final hug...but no. Pamela, wasn't she the waitress that stole from them at the diner, and then gave money to Smurf after seeing the babies? Jake is just dying to tell Craig that he is his Father, and I am sure he will eventually. 10 months from now we would find all this out.

Wow, the expected came unexpectedly...I thought what we saw last night would be in next years final season wrap up. How can they follow up after that? I really don't care what happens to the rest of the Cody's, so the final season is going to be a drag, for me. The one interesting part left as far as I am concerned is the Deran/Adrian mess. Smurf made sure she told J about Adrain before her suicidal attempt. Does he follow through? He didn't look too concerned. The next week promos showed J kicking someone down...was it a teaser, as they usually do with these promos, or was it Adrian getting his ass kicked, or even Deran?

How come when Deran asked Craig to get 2 passports, that he did even ask why do u want two passports? Hey Bro, your thinking of leaving us? Nothing ...who writes these scenes? It would only be logical for Craig to ask his brother and yet he said nothing...just OK.

I was watching the episode where Deran kills the blackmailer and he had told Pope that the guy he killed was the one that ratted to the cops, exonerating Adrain. It seemed that Pope believed it and helped bury the guy. My point is why wasn't this told to Smurf at that time? It could have been a good coverup for Adrain.

This is one of the problems about shows like these that last year after year, one forgets who's, who and etc and etc. Why not have the entire show new episode day after day for a week? But of course that is not possible, after all the network has to stretch out their time slots. In the good ole's days, they did it. I see by reading comments here on this show that Deran's problem is playing second fiddle to the likes of Julia, Angela and the flashbacks. I find the Deran problem more interesting...what is this Cody man do in this situation. How far will he go? Does he divorce himself from this close knit family? Does he sell the bar that he has come to enjoy, the fruits and labor of it, also the independency? Inquiring minds would like to know.

This is one of the problems about shows like these that last year after year, one forgets who's, who and etc and etc. Why not have the entire show new episode day after day for a week? But of course that is not possible, after all the network has to stretch out their time slots. In the good ole's days, they did it. I see by reading comments here on this show that Deran's problem is playing second fiddle to the likes of Julia, Angela and the flashbacks. I find the Deran problem more interesting...what is this Cody man do in this situation. How far will he go? Does he divorce himself from this close knit family? Does he sell the bar that he has come to enjoy, the fruits and labor of it, also the independency? Inquiring minds would like to know.

Wow..It seems that the Flashback took over the entire show, even if it was interesting. Perhaps the Producers may b setting up a new show, with how the Cody's came about? I am confused about Adrian...in the most recent show, he said he was going to take the 15 years, and now, thanks to Deran, take off to 'wherever"? How times change...earlier Craig always took advice from Deran, now its the opposite? Deran doesn't know how to get passports and Craig does? 2 more shows to go. There will be the 5th season...they were renewed... Stupid cop...making it obvious inside the store that he was suspicious and then comes out alone from the cops car.

Deran can talk until he is blue in the face, Smurf's ex cop friend has already tagged Adrian as a snitch. And she has all but called Pope in to deal with him.>>> Where did u hear that? The last thing she said to Deran, 'either you handle it or I will give it to Pope to take care of it."

That Julia 'insert' is a drag...she is of no importance to this story>>>> Sorry, I meant Angela.

I agree, I don't think Deran has it in him to kill Adrian. Why kill him anyway, he said he will take the 15 years, being caught once, while the Cody's do all kinds of stuff, killings, robberies and etc. and they are still Free....which brings to mind, if the cops suspect the Cody's, than why are they not under watch? If they were, they would have caught them all by now. Was that the "Kiss of Death" that Smurf gave Adrian? lol That Julia 'insert' is a drag...she is of no importance to this story.

Dam it...my audio had a glitch the first half hour of this show and I missed what the conversation was about with Deran and Adrian. Could someone enlighten me? I find this part of the show is really getting to the boiling point, and interesting. The rest is getting monotonous . The audio came back on the second half and still couldn't make out in the Flashback why the brothers were fighting.

What did Deran say that was lying to Adrian? Deran asking Adrian if the cop has kids. Would he consider of kidnapping the kid? I don't see the logic in that...this Adrian/Deran problem is a real mess...nothing good coming out of it. Who was that guy in the garage that J was setting up for future jobs? I must have missed a show or something...could someone enlighten me? Great doubleheader...Mia and Tupi...now if they could only get rid of the flashbacks. How convient about that pickup truck appearing. LOL Well, lets see...the Codys are becoming killers...I think Craig is still a 'virgin' in that group as far as not killing anyone.

Tensions are amounting...best episode yet and the acting .especially on Deran's part. He says, we'll try to find a way out of this mess. I don't see it...but who knows. Pope is concerned that Deran told Adrian about Colby....which he didn't. Where did Smurf go for a few days as she said? Why is she so involved with another heist? Doesn't she see the futility of it? All the money she can get is not going to help with her cancer. I am sick of the flashbacks, there is too much going on now with the group, that we have to be informed of the past.