phlebas
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Ok one last thought. Dan is a loathesome, despicable human whose redeeming qualities appear limited. But I do find it interesting that they brought up his "I want to slap her" but never brought up the numerous instances of Shirin calling people stupid, including Dan, and other things she said in interviews on the island.
Calling out people who called Dan stupid would have forced Jeff to talk to more contestants, but the reunion would have been two hours longer.
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Obviously I am an Army of One on here when it comes to being happy Shane isn't returning. Watching him gives me the same feeling I had when I saw a clip of Anna Nicole Smith's reality show: "Put down the camera and get this person some help!" Clearly, YMMV.
I hope I never have to hear Dan or Will's voice again.
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I think the finale was on Wednesday last time as well.
I think Survivor wants nothing to do with a head-to-head against Games of Thrones.
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Hey, Survivor! You look great! We've been worried about you recently.
Thanks, Entire World! I recently scraped off about 300 extra pounds of moron. Thanks for noticing!
Nice!
Yeah, everything is better when you don't have all that arrogance and misogyny to drag around.
We're proud of you. Keep up the good work!
I'll try! I have a long way to go before I'm healthy, though!
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It doesn't have to be a Shakespearean play. Dude wrote sonnets too. Maybe Dan is gonna lay down some sick verse on us.
What rhymes with "victim"?
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I think you guys aren't fully appreciating Dan for all his hard work. He is at the friggin' VANGUARD in the fight for white men to have the right to not listen to women complaining just because they sometimes get slapped around or used as something for men to rub on. We shall overcome, Dan!
(Jerk.)
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I realized this morning that Will's dickishness and the varying reactions to it here and on other social media have added a sort of meta layer for me. I'm curious to see how the game shakes out as more slide through the Douchebag Colander. But I'm now invested in watching how everyone reacts to whatever happens on the show.
For example, the people defending Will are endlessly fascinating to me. I'm not one of them -- I think what he did and said was vile and uncalled for in both the game and in human society -- but building a defense based on what they posit Shirin/Jenn/Mike said or did off-camera amazes me.
I love this game more than ever, even while I hate the participants more than ever.
And I agree with COLTON about something. I would never have expected that.
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And I don't think anyone's even mentioned their BIG TWIST-- Dan's extra vote. lol
That could be an effective tools in the hands of someone who understands strategy.
In Dan's hands... well, it'll be something else.
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Shirin, Mike, and Jenn outright spread rumours of Will stealing, lying, hiding things based on zero evidence. They jumped to this conclusion based on nothing and held firm to it. Why is that just completely forgotten here? Shirin did play the victim, yet Will was the victim of their shit in the first place. Will purposely made a decision to NOT act like a victim. He wanted to fight back.
I dunno. I have to go back and rewatch that sequence, but from what I remember, we got Jenn making one comment about how Will gave up the stuff he didn't like and kept the rest. Not clear what Mike and Shirin said, but if they were repeating that, they were basically accusing Will of playing the game. They were not questioning his integrity as a human being, they were pointing out a possible strategy.
Will's reaction was way out of bounds. If someone says "I think you hid some food away to give yourself an advantage," an adult human being with any sense of empathy does not respond with a variant of "no one on the whole planet likes you and you are forever alone."
Again, IIRC. I might be misremembering what they showed.
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"Breakfast in Merica" is the unfortunate follow-up to Supertramp's best album.
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I'm not crazy about an all-returnees show, but the list makes me happy in that the words "Wade" and "Ben" (not in that order) don't appear.
Nothing that looks like "Boneham" either. I thought returnee shows were ONLY to let CBS give Rupert money.
Please no Abi-Maria or J'Tia.
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Carolyn on the White Collar tribe already found the idol for that tribe.
Oh, you're right. Sorry, that was a pre-coffee comment.
I liked the Immunity Challenge, too. Mostly I liked how overstimulated Probst got during a close race. Lots of fun.
He's a professional actor, so expect anything at any time.
OMG Will is being played by Forest Whittacker. I knew it!
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If Max is off searching for an idol in the nude....and finds one....where's he going to hide it????
I'm afraid of the answer.
The sound guys have that pneumatic tube "shoomp" sound they've been dying to use.
There hasn't been a lot of talk about idols these first two episodes. Maybe they are waiting for the inevitable tribe-merge into two tribes before bothering to hide them?
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Well, she hasn't been shown getting close with Nina or Hali. Just Vince and Joe. So this is probably accurate. I won't be surprised if Vince's paranoia and insecurity blows up in her face, though.
Now it seems she and Hali are BFFs, so I don't think this is an accurate description of her.
Which is good. She's a hoot.
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My least favorite is Russell Hantz. Nobody else even comes close except for his nephew, Little Hantz.
While I think Der Hantzen are worse people, I've been rewatching Tocantins lately... and if I were on Coach Fuggin Wade's tribe for more than about 15 seconds, I would be homicidal.
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I respect your opinion, but I think Helen's worst moments came when she was off of the show and no one was editing her remarks. She wished death on Tom and Lorenzo and tweeted that one of her S12 competitors should be murdered (in addition to defacing pictures of said contestant on Instagram).
Frankly, I think it was irresponsible of Lifetime to cast her in the first place. She's got problems.
I knew there was something with her and Twitter but didn't know the details. I didn't know about the T&L thing. Those guys must have been quaking. But I guess that explains why I'm an army of one on this.
She may be a complete jerk in person. Hell, if you're reporting this stuff accurately, she may be a sociopath in person. That's probably what got her brought back.
But I still enjoy her on the show.
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I think we basically agree. For whatever reason, I'm giving Helen a pass and justifying it by saying we're only getting to see edited aspects of her that fit someone else's narrative. It's not like we have perfect knowledge of her, Kate, Alexandra, and the others.
However, that's also true of people like Russel Effin' Hantz on Survivor, but I'm less driven to cut him any slack.
And yes, Helen walking away with a win would be hilarious just for the screen grabs.
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I did watch her original season. I remember waiting for her to shatter into a billion pieces and wondering who would get caught in the shrapnel.
Actual Helen in person may be a tiresome jerk. But the Project Runway Helen constructed for reality TV is, from my POV, a hoot. I find her far more entertaining than someone like Jay or Fabio.
I remember hearing that she was caught up in some post-season drama. Was that some sort of Twitter war or something? Or was there something during her original season I'm forgetting? Nothing would surprise me. She does come off as six kinds of fragile.
I admit I'm blinded somewhat because, like I said, she does remind me of the kind of person I gravitated to when I was younger, although with a lot more black tank tops. (I hope those are multiple tank tops.)
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Judging by comments about Helen in other sections and the lack of comments about here here, I may be an army of one. I love this woman.
Yes, her best designs are mediocre. She may be good at it, but she struggles with the limitations forced on her by PR. I don't care. She seems like a nice person with a really pretty smile who is likely to collapse into a puddle at the slightest provocation.
I don't know what it says about me but I find the whole Helen Spectacle fascinating. Like turning the crank on a Jack-In-The-Box when the noisemaker is broken -- you know something disturbing is going to fly out with no warning and scare the shit out of the cat. Pointing a camera at Helen kicks off the Castillo Uncertainty Principle -- the act of observing disturbs the observed because the observed is such a mess. (Up yours, Heisenberg.)
Also, she's exactly the kind of person I was attracted to in school. I don't know what that says about me either.
I know she's on borrowed time on this show. But it's not like this show is set up to find brilliant designers anyway as much as it is Fashion Kabuki.
I guess I don't really have a point. Just showing some love for my girl. I'd much rather have her brand of theatrics on every other season than Kate Pankoke's passo-aggro approach. (Though I would push past both of them to make Elena the new mentor.)
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"Sometimes you gotta risk it to get the biscuit." - Wes
Thanks, Wes. Getting biscuits sounds like a much more intense activity in Louisiana.
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I'm unclear on CBS' motive behind casting John in the first place.
Were they hoping for him to be the Loud Idiot Bigot Rocker as he's been portrayed in the media for the last 15+ years? If so, they must be disappointed they only got him through three episodes, and the first one didn't really have any big OH NO HE DIDN'T moments. He was basically a standard issue Type-A D-Bag that we see almost every season. The only difference was we knew that much about him going in.
Were they trying for a redemption arc? Seems unlikely if they really did coach him up for the "got beaten by a girl" stuff.
I know it's all stunt casting to get eyeballs, but I don't know what they wanted the eyeballs to see to make them stick around. Maybe they figure just getting them to look is enough to get them hooked on the whole season. Might even work if this season had other interesting characters.
(I have similar questions about the Twinnies, but I don't watch TAR so I'd never heard of them before two weeks ago.)
Well, I have thought more about John Rocker in the last few days than I had in the previous 15 years, so I guess I can stop. Go Braves. -
About John Rocker...when he made the very public and very unacceptable statements that he's known for, I was living in a city that was all about the Braves, and so I'm very familiar with what he said. And I hated it, and had no respect for him because of it. That said, it's been 20 years, and by all accounts he has since owned up to the horribleness of those statements, and has not said anything like it since. Please correct me if I'm wrong. But I have the impression that he's acknowledged how shitty he was, and has since learned and grown, and does not harbor those feelings today.
I'm sort of in the same boat. I lived (and still live) in Atlanta when he was a Brave and opened his fool mouth.
I don't know whether or not he's evolved on racial or LBGT issues, but he has kept is mouth shut more in the last 15 years. His thing now seems to be cashing in on being a far-right wingnut. His column on WoldNetDaily, for example, probably didn't come along because of his fastball. And his "jews with guns would have prevented the Holocaust" thing must have made Ted Nugent buy up all the old John Rocker jerseys he could find.
I kept waiting for him to go off by himself and vent away from his team while beating his head against a tree. "One of them is BLACK and one of them is GAY and one of them is of INDETERMINATE RACIAL ORIGINS and... oh, she's gone? Cool, but one of them is still GAY..." But no, he mostly behaved himself.
As for the rest, I found them all unusually likable. I never watched TAR so I had no preconceptions about the Twinnies. Everyone else seemed pretty affable. I hope it's a fun season.
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I've warmed to the idea of changing the nature of the idols. Instead of just granting immunity for one round, you can whip one out after the votes are read and use it to demand a Trial By Combat. Then you sit down with the person who had the next highest number of votes (after whatever tie-breakers are necessary) and have a fire-building challenge. If you build the fire quicker, you get to stay and the other one goes home or to the jury or whatever. And you go back to camp, knowing most of the contestants just tried to get you out.
That way if you have a pocketful of idols, you aren't untouchable. You still need to have some survival skills other than knowing how to dig for idols among tree roots. And maybe the other contestants would learn how to do something other than sunbathe and overturn the rice.
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S30.E14: It's A Fickle, Fickle Game / S30.E15: Worlds Apart Reunion
in Survivor
Generally I feel the same way, whether it's a Survivor winner, football player, or cancer survivor.
However, in this case -- Will (who is just as religious, at least in his mind) is getting a constant reminder that God liked Mike more. So I'm good with it.