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phlebas

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  1. Imagine you're a returnee for Season 31 from one of the first 29 seasons.  You were watching season 30 and saw the crap that Shirin went through with Dan and Will and whomever else.  More importantly, you saw the reaction from the Survivor fans on social media, RHAP, and other places. Then you go to the reunion to find out if you made the cut, and they go into it all again (it had only been about a month or so since the original episode aired, after all). It occurs to you that season 30 is most likely to be remembered for that.

     

    A few minutes later, you find out you're going back in for season 31!

     

    Then soon after, you find out Shirin is coming with you. She seems pleasant enough, if a little overenthusiastic, but all you know about her is that she was in the middle of one of the most uncomfortable moments in Survivor history, and feelings are still running high.

     

    Does this change the way you interact with her in Cambodia? Do you try to get her out early because she's a distraction and an unknown (compared to the other players you may have known for years and talked to before you left), and hope that any of the fervor people had will have cooled by the time this season airs? Do you deliberately try to ally with her?

  2. I think that there is a good mix of focus on this season but I didn't vote for 1/3 of them. Abi is a mean girl, bitch. I don't like using that term but Abi is a flat out bitch. She pissed off everyone on her cast to the point that a trained therapist took her to the woodshed and everyone at that Tribal was thrilled. Abi is what Dan and Will want us to believe that Shirin was but that we never saw any evidence of. She was played by Pete, destroyed a solid alliance with RC and proceeded to be a pain in the ass the rest of the season. I don't hold her lack of challenge accumin against her since she tore her ACL and there was no way for her to compete. Personality wise, Abi is awful and I would rahter have Corrine back then Abi.

    Totally agree.  When the Second Chances list came out, I was hoping R.C. would be on it and she'd get chosen instead of Abi. Watching Abi sitting in the crowd trying to keep from looking like Rage in Inside Out would have been worth it.

     

    Since that didn't happen, I wish the mindset that kept them from bringing NaOnka back (speaking of toxic pieces of work) had prevailed with Abi.

    Survivor has this notion that these villain archetypes are good TV.  But I think they are reading it wrong -- villains are entertaining when they are also playing strategically. When they're just assholes -- looking at you, Brandon Hantz -- I don't think they are interesting until their inevitable satisfying ouster.

    I hope, anyway.  At least, that's how I feel.

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  3. I've never really understood why people have a warm spot for Carolyn. She did show some strategy after the tribe swap and was much better at challenges than anyone expected her to be. But she was kind of mean, befriended Mike when she had no other choice (otherwise she seemed perfectly content to stay with The Assbag Alliance), never really made a move on her own (that I recall) after the merge, and only sucked slightly less than Rodney at building the fire. 

     

    I assumed she was in the Second Chances running because they had to balance out the women or something.  I don't think anyone's opinions of her will soften over time, I think we'll all forget who she was.

     

    I'm curious to see the next setup when Survivor tries for a returning players season.  Maybe they do another BvW with all previous winners?  

     

    10 days!  Gonna be fun!

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  4. I was telling a friend (a Survivor noob) about Survivor Palau -- Stephenie, Ian, Tom, and how bad Ulong was and how Bobby Jon wasn't the purplest rock in the bag, if you get my drift. 

     

    So I started watching it again myself.  I had forgotten about Coby.  I thought when it aired originally that he was setting gay rights back 30 years by himself by acting like such an asshole.

     

    Then Colton came along and it's like Coby never existed. Coby's snottiness seems almost quaint by comparison.

    *sigh* It's like reverse evolution.

  5. Re: Upper-middle class Alabamians:

     

    I would assume it means the same exact thing as it does anywhere else.

     

    Pretty much.  We buy slightly higher quality grits and watch our college football on fractionally larger TVs.

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  6. Oh yes, now I remember Vince! The coconut vendor, how could I forget.

    Not just any coconut vendor.  A coconut vendor who seeks truth.

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  7. I am 99% sure I saw Vince today IRL.  Right near, if you can believe this, a clothing store called Vince.  I couldn't think of anything I could say except "hey I didn't find you as terrifyingly creepy as almost everyone else!" so I didn't approach.  Figures that the first time I see a Survivor in the wild, it's a lame pre-swap "wacky character" whose awfulness was quickly overshadowed by an entire season of assholes.

    That's awesome.

     

    Does Vince the store sell hair feathers? Or do you think he was offering them a deal on coconuts if they would let him have vince.com?

     

    Dude probably needed a hug.

  8. People are really dismissing Kim's game?  I will fight you.

     

    Okay, not really. But I think it's hard to compare winners objectively. Every winner benefits from bonehead moves from the other side, but not the same bonehead moves. The weather conditions, food and water availability, twists from the producers, etc., are all effectively random.  And the other people and personalities are different. And of course we're also looking at 44 minutes out of every three days, and not necessarily the 44 minutes we'd want to see.

     

    Kim rolled in having never played before, like everyone else.  Whatever gameplan she had beforehand, she adapted immediately and continually, laid low early while not getting on anyone's radar to be an early boot, and did it all while making friends in both tribes.  Compare that to the Great Boston Rob who took four tries to practice a game plan and was ultimately a celebrity on his final season.

    And Kim did it while dealing with effin' Colton and the delusional Alicia. Either of them alone would be worse than Phillip, pink manties and all.

     

    All MHO of course.  Kim is one of my faves.  But then, so is Danni, so take my view for what you think it's worth :)

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  9. but it's not like she was mocking somebody's miscarriage, saying people suck at life or comparing somebody to a blow-up-doll. Oh wait, the person who did that almost won because people liked her. Huh.

     

    Oh crap.  How did I miss that happening?  Who did that? I feel like a noob.  (Please don't be Amanda.... please don't be Amanda.... )

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  10. ETA: ooh, even better - for 70 bucks she (or someone from there) will go to the grocery store with you and give you advice about what to eat.  Doesn't look like they have a very big staff so it may well be her.  It'll be like a date with a bossy girlfriend, and nobody has to irrigate anything.

    You are a genius.  70 bucks to get Amanda Kimmel to come with me to a Whole Foods and buy enough carrot sticks and broccoli crowns to last me until I can drive to the next Wendy's? Awesome.  (I may pitch it differently to her.)

    I'll be there four days before her wedding.  I'll make ready a contingency plan in case she whispers "I am about to be trapped in a loveless marriage -- you are my last hope of escape."

     

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  11. So Amanda "attended the Las Vegas School of Colon Hydrotherapy" and owns a spa in Montana.  This sound a bit California for Bozeman?

    I'm going to be driving through Bozeman in about a month.  Amanda's one of my favorites. 

    I don't actually want anyone to stick a hose up the ol' pooper, not even someone as attractive as Amanda.  But her center is just a couple miles off the interstate.  Might as well take a 15 minute pilgrimage.

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  12. Danni was kind of boring on the show.  I liked her, and would love seeing her return some day, but I think her problem was being surrounded by louder and more colorful personalities.  She kind of slunk into the background.  However, that's the very thing that I believe led her to victory over Stephenie.  At the time, IIRC, she had a gig hosting on the radio for sports casting.  Plus, she was a former beauty queen and spokes model.  So it is possible with her background they might have thought she met the qualifications.  Don't know if she would have been as cutthroat as Jeff can be, but she probably would have been a very kind and compassionate host.

    I would love to see Danni again. I thought she was the awesomest, and my favorite winner (until The Spradlin came along).  I loved that she didn't get weepy during the family visit that she played stupidly, then helped oust Judd that same episode. "Bye, guys. Hope you all get bit by a freakin' crocodile. Scumbags."

     

    But she hasn't darkened Survivor's door in the 20 seasons since then, has she? She's got a four-year-old and an eight-year-old now too.

    I think Parvarti would accept the job before the offer was completely out of Burnett's mouth.

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  13. I think it's a shame, but not shocking at all. Africa was on right after 9/11 and hasn't had a strong legacy. People forget that Varner, Kimmi and Kelly were semi celebrities. Kimmi's fight with Alicia was replayed so much between 2001-2004 on all those reality show countdowns.

    Oh, I think she would have been fine, but honestly I had to go look her up.  Even then, I only have vague memories. Unless someone is really into the history -- like Rob or someone who posts on an online forum regularly (you know, crazy people like that) -- they are probably not going to be thinking "Finally, the woman who came in fifth in 2001 gets her shot at revenge."

     

    But yeah -- being disappointed she didn't make it is one thing.  Being shocked just shows (IMHO) a skewed vision of how the casual Survivor fan thinks of the game and the game's past.

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  14. Nope, Will has gone to ground. I don't know how active he was before the show started to air, I suspect that it was a great deal more then since the fight aired. He made comments that people on the street were saying they didn't like Shirin and that he was fine but I suspect that is not the case. We tend to hear similar comments from folks who did not do well and were seen as assholes on their season. I think Will gets how badly he came across and is trying to lay low and let the storm pass.

     

    Given everything, this is probably his wisest move. Refreshing from a man not known for making wise moves.  I suspect this is an approach Dan wishes he'd adopted before his Survivor Done Me Wrong Tour 2015 began.

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  15. An army of one.

     

    Speaking of forgetting Will, has he shown up anywhere since the finale?  His twitter account is mostly inactive, and Monifa's FB page isn't giving us much.

  16. I don't think Will should have been pulled. I don't think he should have been forced to apologize. What happened was something that should have been handled in game. I do think that there is a line that will need to be drawn but I don't know where that line is or how they draw it. I suspect it is when someone is following another person around, essentially stalking them, and harassing them. I don't think we have come close to that line and I doubt that they will ever get close to that line but who knows.

     

    I'm fine with Will getting what he got.  I don't care about Survivor forcing him to apologize any more than Shirin apparently does. But since Will claims to be a Christian, he should be familiar with this passage from the Bible:

     

    "If you sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind." -- Hosea 8:7

     

    Will is now dealing with the blowback from his behavior and is in the odd position of hoping he can become anonymous.  Seems like a fair enough return on showing your ass in public.

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  17. Certainly Will's over the top response to Shirin wasn't smart game play, but neither was Shirin accusation of him or especially her denying him the letter from home.

    I honestly don't think Will's outburst lost him any votes other than Shirin's (which he wouldn't have gotten anyway). He lost at FTC because he was a mediocre player who coasted to FTC on the coattails of others and because he was not seen as a threat.

     

    I recommend you let this crusade go. Will needs us to forget him more than he needs a PR campaign.

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