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Really strong episode - very intense. We’ve seen rogue cops before in the Dick Wolf universe so it was pretty obvious where this was going but it was still compelling to watch play out. And pretty shocking when they tased Ray - those cops should’ve known that would be a big mistake but they weren’t that smart. Very satisfying to see all of those rogue cops taken down and I liked that the dad was disgusted with his son’s actions at the end. I did wonder how the rottenness of this sheriff’s office hadn’t come to light sooner in this day and age, but I guess everyone had been intimidated into silence. The guy playing the scummy sheriff has played a couple of memorable roles on original Law and Order, nice to see him. Remy had some good lines towards the dirtbag cops. This show has consistently good cases.
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Yeah Fernando’s fiancé was just as rotten as he was, she didn’t care at all that he bashed a woman’s head in for her car, she cared more about losing the car when Lennie and Rey found it. And then whining that she didn’t want Fernando going away forever because of her baby, not caring at all that there were young children without a mother because of Fernando. He deserved to rot and never get out. It was interesting how the DAs got played by the 2 attorneys who knew the statement about the gun would be suppressed. The guy playing Fernando’s attorney played several memorable roles in the franchise. In ID, I have a feeling Marks stepped down from the bench soon after the episode’s events, it wasn’t explicitly stated but the final lines between Jack and Adam kind of implied Marks wasn’t going to be on the bench anymore, with Jack saying he brought himself down and Adam saying he wasn’t going to celebrate. It would now be public record how Marks acted during that trial and his reputation would likely be toast - he just let the power of his position go to his head and thought he was above the rules. It was interesting how Marks just kind of appeared weird at first and then he slowly got worse with his comments to Jamie and then showing his bias. I liked when Adam told him the rules didn’t allow the judge to act like the defense attorney or put words in witnesses mouths, which is what Marks started doing once his ruling got overturned because he was upset about it. The twist of the killer impersonating her sister was good and made sense, given that they found the picture of the killer with her husband but they assumed it was an affair between the sister and the husband. Marks’ ruling was absurd that the defendant should benefit from her deceiving everyone and impersonating her sister and I’m glad the appeals court reversed him. The scene between Adam and Jack in the holding cell makes me laugh every time, Adam growling at the other guy to sit down and then the look he gives Jack after Jack tells him to wear silk is awesome, vintage Adam. ID is an all time favorite of mine.
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Season 7 has started today on Sundance, it’s my pick for the season with the best cases Causa Mortis is a great start to the season, strong case. Fernando was evil and his fiancé was almost as bad, she knew her boyfriend bashed a woman’s head in for her car and didn’t care, and then she whined about losing the car when Lennie and Rey found it. She was so whiny and pathetic. The ending of the recording the victim made before she was killed being played, pleading for her life, while the husband and daughter cry in court was very memorable and chilling. I liked Jack’s insistence on how prosecuting the case was his responsibility and that he didn’t want to hand the case off to the feds. It was a good intro to Jamie as well and showed that she was an effective lawyer. I also liked how it handled the aftermath of Claire’s death, while I loathe Aftershock and how they killed off Claire, they did a good job here - they didn’t dwell on it but didn’t totally ignore it, and the ending scene between Jack and Lennie was nice, I liked how instead of having beef and hard feelings, each wanted the other not to feel guilt over Claire’s death as shown by their final lines. ID is awesome, one of my all time favorites. Great case with a lot of colorful characters. The scene where Adam visits Jack in his jail cell is downright hilarious - Adam telling the murderer “young man, sit down” was great and then Jack telling Adam to wear silk when meeting with Marks and the look Adam gives him is priceless!! Adam confronting Marks was great as well, Marks was a creep on a power trip, he just let it all go to his head as Jack said at the end, he thought no one could hold him accountable. I liked the chief judge who told Marks to take sick leave or face the disciplinary board at the end. The case itself was awesome, I liked how Lennie and Rey went over the elevator records to figure out which floor the victim was on, and the twist that the killer stole her sister’s identity was great. She was so cold - “my sister didn’t have a life”. The Jersey cop enjoying a fancy meal at the steakhouse was funny, as was the rambling receptionist. Season 7 really has almost entirely strong episodes - just about every episode is memorable and excellent.
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Really good fall finale - I knew Clay was bad news from the start, but he was even more evil than I thought he would be. OA had a major blind spot with him, and it almost cost OA his life. I thought Clay was playing them from the start of the case but I wasn’t 100% sure. Good investigation and case with a good role for each character - I liked Jubal and the analysts in the command room as usual, and Isobel telling the dirty cop he was a disgrace at the end was good. Scola’s new partner does nothing for me though - very bland. This was a good high intensity fall finale.
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It might be my favorite of season 11 as well, because like I say I don’t care for a lot of episodes from seasons 9-12, and some of the ones I find entertaining just because they are so over the top (such as the monkey in basketball case). Conned is an example of an actual strong case that played out well. And yeah there were red flags for the shrink all around, good points you make.
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Yeah she was an extremely sick perp, very creepy. Yeah the mixup wasn’t SVUs fault, the detectives really didn’t do anything wrong here, but I I was glad to get an episode where the others got more screen time - in the last few Stabler seasons it was almost all Elliot and Olivia, all the time, and the others didn’t get a chance to shine much.
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Oh yes Andrew was extremely sympathetic, but he wasn’t a perp really, he killed in self defense and the shrink framed him for rape and then had him institutionalized so she could continue to have sex with him. He was a victim of his shrink. That shrink was such a sicko creep. I was very glad she got a lengthy prison sentence. That’s a good episode, one of the best from the later Stabler seasons when everything felt over the top and ridiculous, but that’s a strong episode, maybe because Stabler/Benson took a backseat to Fin/Munch/Cragen/Huang.
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Very good episode IMO - I like this cases on this show the best of the 3 FBI shows. Good investigation and good twists - I liked the reveal that Ash was undercover and then that he was dirty and had gone rogue. Vic was a pure psycho. Strong case that played out nicely and had a good flow to it. Remy’s old friend seemed like a sleazy alcoholic, and I wouldn’t be shocked if he gets in trouble in the future if they bring him back. It was weird that they said Remy worked in finance before joining the FBI, that’s never been mentioned before and seemed like an odd reveal. Maybe Remy made some money then and that’s how he affords his spacious apartment. The personal scenes felt tacked on here as they often do, although Remy being hungover at the first crime scene was kind of funny.
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Pretty good episode, good intensity and case. Wes has grown on me a lot since the beginning and I’m enjoying him as team leader now. But I’m not a fan of this new agent - too hotheaded and I didn’t like his attitude. I’m not sure if he’ll be a new regular or what but I hope he grows on me because I wasn’t a fan of him. The villain’s wife was so spineless and I wasn’t happy she got off at the end but I guess that’s what it took to put the bad guy away. Nice seeing Tank make an appearance.
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Wild episode - those were some crazy people they were dealing with - interesting enough case at the start although it was dead obvious from the first scene that the dad would be involved in the case, but it kind of dragged on and on without much suspense after a while. The shootout at the bar at the end was a bit over the top - it was based on the “Pizzagate” incident a few years ago for sure. I’m glad Jubal is back as I enjoy his interactions with everyone but there wasn’t a lot of him or the people in the command room tonight. Isobel was good in dealing with the prick leader though. Kind of mediocre overall in that it was predictable and lacked suspense but there were some good lines from each agent and some good moments in it. Scola’s partner doesn’t make any impact really and I’m not surprised she’ll be gone soon - she’s just not working for me.
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Approach The Bench: Law & Order General Discussion Thread
Xeliou66 replied to GHScorpiosRule's topic in Law & Order
Yeah that’s another one with some similarities - Profiteer from season 17. -
Approach The Bench: Law & Order General Discussion Thread
Xeliou66 replied to GHScorpiosRule's topic in Law & Order
I immediately thought of L&O when I heard about that murder - seems like something straight out of an episode. I was reminded of the season 12 episode about the guy who killed the insurance executive who voted against approving the treatment for his sick daughter, given that this real life victim was a healthcare company CEO. I also thought of the episode from last year about the tech big wig who was killed after replacing some jobs with AI. A few other episodes came to mind as well. I have a feeling revenge may be the motive in the real case as well. I have a feeling L&O will rip from the headlines with this sooner or later depending on how the real case shakes out. -
Yeah Conduct Unbecoming is great, Bunker was a total asshole and misogynist. The defense might’ve made a mistake in putting Bunker on the stand, but I guess they needed to since they were trying to portray him as an upstanding noble guy who wouldn’t hurt anyone - Ben’s cross of him was excellent, and his closing was spot on. I love the investigation as well with Lennie and Mike questioning witnesses and getting to the bottom of it and Cragen’s frustration in dealing with Navy bureaucracy. It’s one of my favorites from the season. Yeah the killer in Animal Instinct was a loon, completely off her rocker. She was a memorable character but it seemed like the DAs should’ve vetted her more carefully. I also like Night and Fog a lot, the killer was really evil, killing his wife to keep from being discovered as a Nazi. Very compelling storyline. The run of episodes in the middle of season 3 is fantastic.
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Conduct Unbecoming is such a great episode - love the detective work and legal stuff. Captain Bunker was such a piece of garbage, an egomaniac and violent misogynistic prick. Ben nailing him on cross was great, one of Ben’s best moments “which bitch is it, sir?” and his closing was great as well. So satisfying to see Bunker go down. I loved how Lennie realized the victim was attacked before going into the room where she died and how they discovered Bunker was in the room where she was attacked. Nice to see Cragen go to Adam’s office, and Cragen’s exasperated “I like corn beef” line when Lennie/Mike were talking about the food ordered to the room was hilarious. Ben’s line to Bunker about who has the right to judge him “that right belongs to your conscience and twelve taxpayers, and I assure you the latter will not be as tolerant as the former” was awesome, vintage Ben. And Adam’s final line about Bunker was one of the best “I doubt he ever got past the Declaration of Independence - all men are created equal” perfect ending line. Animal Instinct is a weird episode - the killer was a complete loon, she was very creepy with her fixation on the victim’s husband and how she insisted they were in love. But I thought the DAs should’ve done a lot more background on her before the husband’s trial and maybe they never would’ve taken the husband to trial for something he didn’t do. They were too quick to suspect him.
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Good episode - I hope they bring the female assassin back in the future, she would be a good multi-episode villain, this episode was a very rare time where justice wasn’t served so I hope they do more with her story and bring her back maybe at the end of the season, would be cool to see Remy square off with her again. Another very good episode from start to finish, this show has great cases. Like everyone else I knew Hana’s boyfriend was going to be no good, just didn’t know how. I was almost expecting him to be something worse than a run of the mill drug addict.