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I'm thinking Mia or Connor just in case Mia's too obvious? Maybe while Mia and William are catching up, Roy says something to Connor about not recognizing him and that's Connor's response? (I prefer Mia because that would suggest that SOMEONE KNOWS SHE EXISTS and no one knowing just makes ZERO sense.)

We have to get the Diggle we knew and loved back by 719, right? Right? (Please, someone tell me I'm right. Because I doubt it'll happen in tonight's episode.)

Unlikely theory: Dinah doesn't know about Mia because she leaves SC in the present at some point before the end of the season to "find herself" or whatever without her meta powers. Then, she returns after she hears it all fell apart. Mia's pissed at her because she wasn't around to keep things from going to hell when she should have been. So JH remains part of the show, in the FFs, but she's no longer in the present-day storyline. Roy returns at some point, briefly, in the present before the end of S7. At that point, everyone gets the Mark of Four tattoo. I really can't think of any explanation that will make 100% sense given that Felicity's going to be raising Mia (at least somewhat, given the 716 press release) and starting Smoak Tech in SC. Say Mia goes off to live with Donna or something. Wouldn't Dinah wonder why Felicity keeps taking trips to Vegas? (Actually, maybe not, given they never really talk.) Say Mia does grow up with Felicity (and Oliver). Are they going to hide Mia from the outside world? Do they never have friends over to see stuff for a kid in their home?

Just watched KM on ET Live and I'm pretty sure she said that Dinah and Roy don't know that Olicity had a daughter. I find that hard to believe, given the 716 press release mention of Mia's childhood with Felicity, Smoak Tech not a thing yet, the Mark of Four not a thing yet, etc. Unless no one's going to notice Felicity's pregnant/she's not going to see anyone once she starts showing/then she gives birth in secret/hides Mia/etc.?

There’s always the chance that there will be something good in a scene even with characters I dislike that I wouldn’t want to miss. For example, the FF with Rene and Dinah that revealed the people with the Mark of Four. Plus I actually have never skipped an episode of a show I’ve really liked, like I like Arrow, despite its problems. (I even watched all the Buffy/Spike stuff even though I was all about Buffy/Angel and hated what they did with Spike.) I look at it this way: if I could sit through 619 last year, I’m pretty sure there are no Arrow episodes I’ll skip before the end of the series.

We better see this. If I’m going to sit through Diaz, likely more of pod Diggle, and Oliver working with Emiko and Rene, not to mention whatever we’ll find out in the FFs, probably something that tells us Oliver, Felicity and their family continue to be the ones who suffer the most, I want to at least see this. In 714. Not later.

Maybe at whatever thing Diggle takes the Ghost Initiative to? Didn’t the promo show some event?

They really went three or four steps too far when it came to aging the characters in the FFs. Has it really been that long since characters like Moira, Donna, Quentin, and Malcolm were around that they forgot what people actually look like when they get older?

I just wish we’d get a Felicity/Emiko scene soon, but I’m not counting on it happening in 714.

That sneak peek is boring.

True. I’m just expecting Dinah to continue to flip-flop when it comes to how she feels about Oliver and Felicity. “They’re horrible! Can’t trust them! Felicity’s evil!” “Here’s the Mark of Four. We owe Felicity. Blah blah blah” or whatever she said to William and Rene about it.

I don’t see that happening. Oliver and Dinah don’t have deep conversations. I just don’t want a repeat of the S6 finale, where Felicity found out about Oliver going to prison at the same time as everyone else. Plus it’s still unclear if Dinah trusts Oliver or not in the future. She’ll probably have a conversation with Roy about how now there are two kids they can’t trust because they’re Olicity’s children. But then in 716, she’ll probably have a heart-to-heart with Mia about Felicity and the Mark of Four, after delivering the “devastating news” before we find out Felicity’s alive.

I’m just still hoping that we’ll find out Oliver told Felicity about the deal off-screen after Elseworlds. And then everyone else can find out next season. Maybe then we can repeat S6, with the others being annoyed they weren’t on the same level as Oliver’s wife — sorry, but until Diggle is back to being the Diggle I recognize, I don’t care if he knows or not — explaining the divide between everyone in the future and why it took a moment for Dinah to recognize Connor/she doesn’t know Mia. (Which would imply Diggle understands the secrecy/is let on/returns to the Diggle I like)

The phrasing seems odd, but I think I’m just used to cancellation announcements that say “due to filming/scheduling/a family emergency/etc.”

Yeah, the only way an Olicity divorce would explain Mia growing up with Oliver — which no one’s actually said she does — would be if they made Oliver a villain. He’d have to either try to kill Felicity or Mia (like @JamieLynn832002 said) or abandon his family. Neither is ever going to happen. Oliver and Felicity are never getting divorced. The prison option may not be completely off the table though. Not with regards to Mia not growing up with him or in the Slabslide sense, but perhaps when it comes to where Oliver and Felicity are? Maybe they’re both in some sort of prison or prisons (of Kevin’s making) in the Glades in the FFs.

What I find interesting is that the Q printed before KM's answer in the TVLine interview is: "Did Stephen [Amell] and Emily [Bett Rickards] both know that youknew? Was it a secret among the three of you?" So she could have just answered that part of it. But instead, we got: Who knows what will happen, but if, say, 716 ends with Mia and William finding both Oliver and Felicity alive in the future, I will definitely remember this part of KM's interview. KM could have easily just said, "we don't know if Mia will find her parents."

Thanks @tv echo! The quotes I meant specifically were: To me, that sounded like Mia grows up with both her parents — or Oliver at least doesn't die in COIE, at which point she would be, what, a couple months old, depending on when COIE airs, and wouldn't remember anything. I may be reading into it, but I honestly expected her to say she hadn't worked with either of them at all. Because going by what's aired so far, she hasn't.

Yeah, I didn’t like the grandparents at all, considering they blamed Oliver for not being around when he didn’t know about William and I can totally see them cutting off contact and blaming Oliver and Felicity. I just can’t see how Oliver and Felicity wouldn’t then go to CC once they’re told they can’t see/talk to William.

Didn’t KM say something about Mia having to grow up with two superhero parents or something like that compared to William’s “normal life”? And I’m pretty sure she said something about not working with SA and EBR much yet, implying she does at some point — and I can’t see that being for her childhood scenes since a younger actress will likely be playing Mia. Or maybe I’m misremembering completely. Maybe the big twist in 716 will be that Oliver’s alive/was there for Mia’s childhood, but that’s not revealed until the episode’s almost over/final scene?

Maybe the "devastating news" will be that that Kevin guy killed Rene. It's just as likely as anything else, TBH. And Mia and William will just stare at the others, wondering why they're supposed to care.