balisticnikki

Right, I said both would be valid choices for the name. Yes, we know her teen pregnancy(ies) were not with Lily. But the comment in the most recent episode was said in such a way that it made me think she was saying her teen pregnancy was Lilly. She might have mentioned Lily's father or something, when they were teens, raising Lily. I guess she misspoke.

What does that mean? lol

Not to be argumentative, but I don't think ANYONE actually feels that way! LOL Not if they are getting married. There is no negative side to sex within the context of marriage. And I have never heard of it considered a somber occasion. LOL "Dear friends, we are called here on this, the soberest or sober, gravest of grave day, to commemorate the passing from life into death of Evelyn's hymen. Let us bow our heads..."

But even if/when James bails, is it necessary for the baby's name to changed? I mean, he is her father; that's the person Lily choice, good, bad or indifferent. I was married when both of my children were born and I gave them their father's last name...but I never took their father's last name. I always kept my own name, thru the marriage and now that I am divorced. It's really not that big a deal to have a last name that is different than your children's last name(s). It has never been mentioned, even when flying, etc. The only place I ever read documentation would be needed to establish that my kids were, in fact, mine, was in a piercing studio, if they were under 18 and I was bringing them to get pierced. But yeah, I think either choice of last name would make sense for Lily and the baby. I caught that, too. How weird. I can't remember what Kim said exactly but could she have been saying "you plural"? Like "you have no idea how much I went through with you plural kids"? Or maybe she's trying to make us think she's 31 like Kelsey (Lexus's mother). But yeah, I definitely caught that. Glenn is a good looking guy for his age (60); I wonder how long they've been together?

Then why didn't she just say that!? That made sense. All this, "you can change your name and the baby's name when you get married, just like I did..." was unnecessary and sounded almost like she was suggesting the name be dangled in front of James as an inducement to marry her.

hahahaha (I removed the word "tint" for my own satisfactions! lol

During the THs w/ Shaeden and Caelen, they always film from their crotch level. It's gross; I don't want my gaze directed right btwn their legs. OMG, if James doesn't lose those damn wave caps and open both eyes when he speaks, I'm gonna punch my tv screen. Has Shaeden completed high school? Or did he drop out to get a job? was he already dropped out? How can he work a fulltime job, go to school and help w/ the baby...all with no car, living 45 mins away from Lexus? These boys are so annoying! I did not agree with or even really understand Kim's (Lily's mother's) point about the baby's last name. Pick a last name. In this scenario, either choice (Kennedy or Bennett) would be valid. The father doesn't "earn the baby's use of his name." That is ridiculous; they'll be changing that baby's name back and forth every 6 months. And why is Kim filling Lily's head w/ all this garbage about Lily and James getting married. Chances are good they will never get married. Just pick a name. Yes, Scarlet's room is LOVELY! (But why did I expect it to be red?)

You're absolutely right about that. I guess i should have said "Evelyn is not a 'fundie.'" On this board fundie = the Duggars? Everyln said she likes the classy & slutty underwear! Lol

quoting accident

I'm equating "sexually repressed" with "just using sex for procreation." I doubt David is Catholic. I doubt a devout Protestant 18 year old Christian woman would feel comfy marrying a devout Catholic Christian guy. Many of the more traditional Protestant Christian denominations/sects don't even consider Catholics to be Christian, let alone consider them a great choice for marriage.

I think if Chris cares about his marriage at all, he will renege on Annie's co-sponsorship. This is a fight that will never end btwn spouses. And honestly, I see someone like Annie offering herself sexually to someone like Chris under these circumstances, if things went left and Annie was asking Chris for money. I don't think Annie was horrified by Chris's massage request; I think she was surprised she was being called up so soon in the process. I think Chris and Nikki made a big mistake sending David Poor and Annie back to Kentucky. They needed to keep them close and facilitate a break up btwn them...or just go to court and revoke sponsorship. It seemed like they may have had the discussion before she got the US and he mentioned a reversal would be possible....also before she got to the US.

I don't. I think she's a whore who just realized she got taken by her john. There would be no way for tv viewers to know this as producers deliberately left out any discussion of his vasectomy. That topic was just introduced last week, right? And she never directly said when learned about the vasectomy during last night's episode...iirc.

LOL It looked to me like his knees were stiff and he was running almost stiff-legged.

This is so funny! The frantic piano playing that changes tempo after the introduction of each title card. LOL

Why? What did you make of it?

Evelyn is not a fundamentalist. One can figure that out the instant they open her IG account. And Evelyn was never taught sex was shameful...her mother never said anything like that. Catholics aren't sexually repressed.

Why would she? She's hardly the self-made woman type...

Not more comments about kensley's crotch :( That was her lap. not crotch. But yes, she does look just like Tracy Morgan! But that's not her father.

Maybe he was molested..bc he doesn't get giggly about sex; he gets mad. Beyond mad. When she and Andrei met, she was slimmer and looked so much better. She has gained weight in that time since and much of it went right to her face.

Nikki and Chris have only been married for about 6 months and Chris had most this stuff prior to their marriage. But yes, income earned while married is equally both of theirs. OK, but he's going on a reality marriage show about getting married and he and his fiancé lead with: WE'RE BOTH VIRGINS. It seems likely that sex will come up. He should have written an elevator speech and rehearsed it to sound semi-normal.

Oooooooh Luis lied to Molly about the extent of his exploits at the strip club.....

Wanting to go to America doesn't put Azan in a powerless position while he is still with his entire family, in his own country and male. And being a US citizen doesn't put Nicole in a position of power over him as a woman in a strange Middle Eastern country, alone with her toddler. Azan is still full in control here. All he has to do is tolerate her for another few days. He is not an abused man.

IDK. In those pics I posted, Solomon and her dad (and the other guy) all look normal and like it's 2017. Even the mom looks fairly normal. But I think Evelyn has this thing w/ ugly, kitschy retro crap. Like that shitty house she wanted to rent. There's prbly a little ramshackle thrift store in Claremont and she thinks the cool thing to do is "dress vintage." Like her trying to alter that entirely-too-big, hideous green dress that she had pinned back to fit her. I'm guessing her mother, who is about my age, told her to watch Pretty In Pink (a movie the fortysomethings grew up w/) and now Evelyn is haunting the local Goodwill and really confusing herself.

But to use the H.E. sexual harassment analogy. Everyone will see that differently, too. Some will see it as harmless banter, Some will see it as horribly offensive, threatening and soul crushing. You have to use the "reasonable person or reasonable woman's standard." And part of that requires some effort/culpability on the part of the victim. In the H.E.S.H. situation, the victim must at least demand the behavior stop immediately and the victim must notify the authorities (human resources, commanding officer, police, etc.) if the victim is bothered by it. In the case of Nicole and Azan, I think if Azan is truly bothered by it he can insist that she stop at once and tell the authorities. Bc just like w/ sexual banter in the office, sexual propositioning, nudie posters, etc., some ppl don't really care about the slap and tickle, push and shove, etc. It might be annoying to Azan but not that big a deal. The victim's response to the behavior factors in to whether or not the behavior is actually abusive.