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19 hours ago, kwnyc said:
He also had a brief marriage to Carrie Fisher.
They even used a photo of Paul and Carrie to photoshop Midge into.
The big spangly belt and collar make me think I've seen the outfit that Midge is wearing before, but I can't place where it's from.
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@shapeshifter Thanks, I actually got all that before, but sometimes I just space out and click where the edit button used to be and end up quoting myself.
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28 minutes ago, Daff said:
Oh dear. Are you sure you really mean that? Choosing a phrase or sentence to quote is one thing, but I wouldn’t want anyone to be able to “edit” my contributions as that may misrepresent my intended meaning, thereby, making it theirs, not mine.
I'm not trying to edit anyone else's post, just my own. But because on the new layout, they moved the edit button from the bottom of the post to the pulldown menu at the top, a few times now, I've absentmindedly clicked on the quote button and ended up double posting nearly the same thing.
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8 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:
Not everyone's idea of happiness is daily involvement with family and all of the demands on one's time that includes.
Also, I think it's a mistake to think that a person's happiness is completely within their control. There aren't a lot of people who get to live their ideal life, and maybe there aren't any.
From the Glamour article that @shapeshifter linked to above is this from Alex and Rachel:
QuoteAnd yet, as Borstein pointed out, “This show about these two strong women. They both get what they want, but they both are very much alone.” So would they say it was worth it?
“I think the money Susie got brought her peace,” Borstein said. “She could take off the suspenders, the hat, the leather coat, and be in a big caftan where she could just breathe and be and take up all the space.” Added Brosnahan, “I think Midge thinks it was worth it. I asked Amy whether Joel and Midge would ever get back together back in season one, and she said they’d never be on the same page again and she’ll always look back at the day before Joel left her as the happiest day of her life. I love that both of those things live inside Midge. She’s never been as happy as she was, but she’s also led this deeply fulfilling and curious life that would otherwise not be true.”
That's been the arc of the show. Joel blew up Midge's life in episode 1 and we hear Abe reflect on that in the penultimate episode of the series: other people would have crumbled, but she picked herself up and found a new and different way of living. Had it been entirely up to Midge, Joel wouldn't have left her, and it might even be Joel with the successful standup career (though having seen his set ... uh, doubtful). But it wasn't up to her any more than it's up to any of us, yet in the end, she still had a good life.
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Crap, on this new forum layout, I keep quoting myself when I mean to edit the original post.
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I saw this yesterday and I'm still crying a little (I cry all the time, so don't go by me) and thinking about the end, which to me is the sign of a good finale. I liked the flash forwards all season and now that the finale has aired, I really appreciate how much of the heavy lifting they did. Giving us bits and pieces over 9 episodes is so much better than a linear season followed by a "here's what happened"-heavy final episode.
Does Midge end up happy? I think mostly yes. She knew early on that trying for fame was a choice that was going to exclude other choices. And we know in the intervening years, that idea was reinforced for her when she tried marriage again and again and it didn't work out, so I think she's finally made her peace with it. It's certainly poignant to see her walking through that huge, unpopulated apartment and eating in the kitchen with a only a magazine and her kitchen staff behind her for company, but at that point, she's 79 or 80 years old. Being a woman alone at that age is not that uncommon.
This article is about whether Midge and Joel ever reunited and what happened to Joel and the short answer is no and he's dead. But I'm a firm believer in the audience being able to contribute whatever they want to the empty spaces, so if anyone's preferred version is that they remarried and lived happily together for years, then that's okay too.
A couple of things I really loved: first, Rose's petulance about Midge not calling her to tell her about the Gordon Ford appearance. When we first met Midge, she aspired to have her mother's life, right down to the weird bedtime routine of cold cream and rollers after the husband is asleep and removing them before he wakes up. When Midge rejected that life, Rose seemed to take it as Midge rejecting her, causing her to question her own place and value in the world, as we saw in the Paris episodes. So it was touching to see how much it meant to Rose that Midge had everyone call her for hours on end to tell her to be at the show. Also another nice moment was Abe telling Midge he was proud of her before the show (even though it wasn't nearly as funny as him in resort wear staring stone-faced at her Catskills standup routine way back when).
The second really nice bit was Gordon calling Midge over to the couch after her set. Being on Johnny Carson's show was what all comics aspired to, but the holy grail was getting called over to the couch after. They were all instructed to look at him after the set and if he waved them over, then they'd get another few minutes on the couch, but more important, it meant that he liked them and would have them back for future appearances and that was huge back in the days of only 3 networks and no cable or streaming. So Susie and Mike's "holy shit!" reactions were apt, especially since Gordon had been such a bag of dicks over her appearing in the first place.
A of little things too: Shirley and Moishe in the shower, Susie chasing Mike through the offices, Susie and the birds, remembering the dumbness of Penny Pann.
It just hit all the right notes for me. I loved it.
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I would have voted against Heidi just because she opted to make fire. I understand why Chris did it in the Exile Island season because he had spent almost no time in the main game and needed something on his resume, but for Heidi, it was an unnecessary risk. She was in the game the entire season and everyone knew her game; fire wasn't going to make a difference. Even so, I was pretty sure she would beat Carson at it because the one thing I knew about her came from the first episode when she made fire quickly on the first day out there. Then she became almost invisible for several weeks and every time I saw her, I'd go, "who is ... ? oh, right fire girl." So it was a dumb move by her but a nice callback by the editors.
I would have been happy with any of the Tika 3 winning, and I am happy about Yam Yam, especially after how sweet and helpful he was when Carson was losing it over trying to make fire, but I feel just the tiniest bit let down that Carolyn didn't get any votes. She was a good player, and I thought her jury performance was not great but better than Heidi's. Heidi was mostly giving a prepared speech and trying to flatter the jurors, which at least worked on Danny whose question was pretty much, "you rode my coattails to get to the end, right?" and Heidi's response was basically, "yes, I used you as a shield because you are so much more awesome than me. Thank you for your question."
The reunion show was fun. Jaime being absolutely delighted over the fake idol, Yam Yam and Carolyn finding out about Carson's connection with NASA, Brandon regaining the power of speech. You can tell this is a group of people that genuinely like each other.
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14 minutes ago, SnapHappy said:
Do we know the running time of the last episode? Do they reference that anywhere? I didn't see it on IMDB or the Wiki page.
I haven’t seen a time listed anywhere either, but since they’re also showing the finale in a few theaters around the country, I’m guessing it’s at least 90 minutes.
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The problem for Lauren/Jaime is that they burned their bridges with Heidi. Last week was the second time they voted together against her, and Heidi was pretty adamant that she had no reason to trust them so I'm not surprised that she didn't tell them she has an idol and that the three of them could use it to take out a Tika.
Heidi might still be in a good position, if Carolyn is seriously thinking about voting Carson out (which I kind of doubt, but despite her openness, Carolyn can be hard to read), then she could use Heidi, who trusts her, and Lauren, who has no other options, to vote him out next time, assuming he doesn't win immunity. And if Tika sticks together, I think Lauren goes before Heidi, but I'm just guessing because it seems like Lauren's name has come up more and has been seen as more of a threat.
Nice poncho, De Niro.
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15 minutes ago, phlebas said:
Or get Frannie to do it.
Or Heidi! Her montage was pretty badass.
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If De Niro were ever to see that, he’d take Danny out with one punch.
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I always said I'd watch until the bitter end, but 90 minutes might be too much on a weekly basis. And the same for TAR. Both shows became stale years ago and none of the changes have made them better. I doubt that "still bad and now 50% longer!" is the answer.
I wonder, though, if this is just a temporary thing in anticipation of the WGA strike continuing on into the summer.
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59 minutes ago, KaveDweller said:
I didn't totally follow Emma's new set up. Is the new unit actually approved by someone high up to secretly investigate the rest of the CIA? Or is she just acting totally independently? Cause that feels like a fine line between being a criminal herself.
I'm not sure I have this right, but I think what's going on is that Emma quit the CIA altogether, and she, Mason, and their old boss (who has been reassigned to a different section) are going to investigate the guy who replaced her old boss to find out who he's covering for within the Defense Department regarding the illegal arms sales. And they're going to finance it using the crypto she stole from Maguire.
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I'm watching Mr. Monk and the Birds and the Bees and I love so much his sex talk with Julie. "All of your dreams will come true, but they don't have to come true this weekend. Now stop crying and let me out of here."
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3 hours ago, catrice2 said:
A waste of Tony Shaloub.
Completely agree. Finding out he was going to be on the show was the only reason I started watching in the first place, and I doubt we'll see his character again. But I should have figured. He and Polly Draper have been friends for decades, and he often takes on small parts in friends' projects that he's really too good for.
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I do like this show, but everyone was being so irrational in this episode.
Emma knows she's being followed by someone in the CIA, so she pretends to take some time off, but then she and Charlie arrange a meeting with Daphne at the bar where both the agents tailing her and Mason see the three of them go in and can figure out that something is up.
Birdie and Simon act as decoys for Charlie and Emma so they can leave without being tailed, but then they all go to the same place.
David doesn't want to be a politician so much that he walked out of the final debate before it was over, but then he won and was like, "oh okay, I guess I can do this thing that disgusts me for six years."
Leo and Fran sell their bar for what has to be 2 to 4 times what the building is worth to real estate developers and then are shocked, SHOCKED, that the developers are going to tear the bar down and put up a mixed-use building.
However, it was all worth it just for this:
First FBI Agent: Maguire is dead.
Second FBI Agent: [zip-ties Maguire's hands behind his back]-
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It would be a little shocking if she wore that to the Emmys or Golden Globes, but anything goes at the Met Gala so I'm not bothered by it. There were a lot of people there wearing crazy things.
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I just started watching this series from the beginning last week because I heard Tony Shalhoub was joining the cast, and now that he's appeared, I'd like to call up the showrunners and ask them if they're only going to show him for two minutes at the beginning and two minutes at the end of the episode, what are they even doing with their lives? Hmpf. Maybe next week we'll see more of him.
Overall, the show is a bit of a disappointment. The first episode was great, but then it went downhill for me, and I agree that Catherine Haena Kim is miscast. It's all sort of campy fun, but it's like it's been written by kids who don't know how anything works. I love the entire Nicoletti family, but we're supposed to believe they're a family of grifters living on the financial edge so it's funny that they have more tech knowledge and equipment than the CIA. We see Birdie and Charlie in their surveillance van, but Emma and Mason sitting in a car with a pair of binoculars and a point-and-shoot camera. And David just seems kind of stupid to me. I keep waiting for someone to explain to him that he can't be the senator from Washington state when he doesn't even live there. Not even going to get into the idea that the CIA are the good guys, lol.
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14 hours ago, shapeshifter said:
Tits up, indeed.
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9 minutes ago, Fretful said:
Were Carolyn and Yam Yam on the same giant rock that attacked Matthew (I can't keep all the beaches straight in my mind). I'm sure there's a metaphor there.
I always wonder what would happen if EVERYONE sat out the immunity challenge for the rice. That way, they all make the same sacrifice for the same reward. I'm sure it would make Jeff's head explode, and whoever came up with the plan would get the worst edit ever.
I was thinking it was the same rock too, until they went to a wide shot. Matthew's rock was almost a straight vertical climb; the one they were on had a much gentler grade. I still wouldn't have risked it barefoot and bare-legged though.
There's some rule about how you can't sit out a challenge for no reason (although they did make an exception for Special Agent Phil one time because he almost drowned as a kid and it was a particularly heinous water challenge), so I think once four people agree to sit out, then everyone else has to compete. A few times they did that sadistic thing where any number of people could sit out for burgers or pizza to eat during the challenge, but not everyone would sit out because some players felt like they needed immunity more than food. Theoretically they all could sit out for that and then I guess no one would get immunity that week, but I can't see that working because you know they'd all agree beforehand and then one person would figure they could snake their way into immunity by just not sitting out when the time came. In this group, that would be Danny for sure.
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15 hours ago, jsm1125 said:
I know Jessica Lewis (from Millennials vs. Gen X) indicated that, when she played Survivor, one of the rules before the season began filming was that production would make sure you had access to your things, regardless of what beach you ended up on.
Maybe she just meant that was in the event of a tribe shuffle or unexpected move to another beach. I can't think of any specific examples, but I seem to recall in the past that sometimes people have gone to TC without their bags, been voted out, and then had to leave their things behind.
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Tony Shalhoub joins the cast of Milo Ventimiglia's new show, The Company You Keep. Tony's first episode is Sunday, April 30. Maybe we'll see an alternate reality Abe punch Sylvio in the nose for lying to Midge. It won't hurt. He's not strong.
‘The Company You Keep’ Adds Tony Shalhoub in Recurring Role (EXCLUSIVE)
ETA: Luke Kirby appeared in Episode 3, but I haven't seen it yet and don't know if that was a guest or recurring spot.
ETA some more: Marin Hinkle is also in at least one episode.
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I'm confused about what happened with the matchmakers. Apparently they did set the tea room on fire and someone turned them in to the police, but who was that and how did they have enough proof to have them arrested? And the person who called each of the matchmakers said she was calling from Susie Myerson and Associates, but it wasn't Susie, so was it Dinah?
On 4/15/2023 at 2:06 PM, shapeshifter said:But do we think Gordon Ford is
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Like a Bill Cosby/Harvey Weinstein?
Will he fire Midge if she doesn't feel like she owes him sex?
Or: - Did Midge's off-stage gasp at Gordon's flub stimulate him to fix the joke and he sees her as some smart, possibly-talented, good-luck mascot to hang onto?
Somewhere in between the two, I think. He's a sexual harasser, but not in a way that would/should send him to prison. It's more the kind of unfortunately very common harassment that women were expected to and did tolerate and laugh off for decades. As for why he didn't fire her, it's probably because he does think she's talented but he also wants to sleep with her. If one of the men writers had fought with him in public like she did, he would have fired them on the spot.
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Like a Bill Cosby/Harvey Weinstein?
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4 hours ago, seacliffsal said:
I'm on the opposite side-I think Frannie has shown us her gameplay. She chose to put her showmance with Matt ahead of other gameplay.
I agree. I'm not seeing that Frannie is a great player who was held back by Matt. They're both pretty terrible and their strategy has been: schmoopy schmoopy schmoopy hope no one notices! Whether she and Matt are a couple or not, he was her number one ally, and it was stupid of her not to throw the IC. She had immunity, she could have given her number one immunity, and it would have made Danny, who they already had talked about blindsiding, vulnerable. By hanging on to win the challenge, all she got out of it was a PB&J.
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Monk - General Discussion
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Someone on reddit posted several photos from the filming of the reunion movie, which is happening right now in Toronto. They all look fantastic, but Monk, Leland, and Natalie look exactly as you would expect them to look 14 years later, while Randy hasn't aged at all.