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  1. 57 minutes ago, ProfCrash said:

    I would also agree that this is Survivor and they are comfortable with flexing the rules if they think there is a benefit to doing that. The problem is once they allow that flex, it has to be allowed in the future or they have to re-write the rule. I know that the original immunity idol was used differently then they thought so they re-wrote that rule. Yul read the rules and used it in a legal way that Production hadn't thought of. 

    Stephen Fishbach (sp) has said that he was allowed to come up with his interpretation of his steal a vote advantage (I think that was his) and Production didn't correct him, if his approach was wrong. Rob C teases Stephen that his rule interpretation was awful and maybe he should have asked Production for clarification....

    So there are at least two examples of Production letting the players read and interpret the rules and going with it. 

    Years ago, Jeff said in an interview that players are always coming up with loopholes and if they just exploit the loophole, then he would allow it, but if they asked if they could do it beforehand, he'd say no. He said Colby in particular was always thinking about faster ways to do things, but the problem was he'd ask Jeff if it was okay so Jeff would say no. He was talking specifically about challenges, but I could see them adopting the same philosophy with respect to advantages.

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  2. Rocksroy is like the dad in a mediocre sitcom who thinks he's running things but is always wrong and is saved from calamity every week only because everyone ignores him and goes about their business. Drea and Romeo will probably stick with him over Tori, if it comes to that, but Tori is just so funny with her faces and passive-aggressive therapy-speak that I hope she stays for a while. Rocksroy seems miserable, like miserable to others but also as if he's hating every minute of being out there, so he's not enjoyable to watch.

    Has there ever been a bigger whiner than Daniel? Good grief. He acts like Chanelle got off scot-free, but no one wants to work with Chanelle either. He's not mad that she's not on the outs with him; he's mad because no one bought his story about how it was ALL HER and he was her innocent victim like the rest of them. He thinks everyone should forgive him and put Chanelle in the ocean just because he said so.

    6 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

    I legit thought that talking head was going to end with Jonathan crying and saying he worked so hard on his physicality because he's always been chasing Daddy's love and approval, but, lol, no, he seems fine with it.

    lol, that's how I thought it was going to go too. He's seems awfully well-adjusted for someone who was raised by the Great Santini.

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  3. The prosecutor Leah Askey talking about Judy Greer's portrayal of her in the miniseries (no spoilers):

    She says that winning the Russ Faria trial was the worst thing that ever happened to her. I would say it was worse for Russ, but she probably doesn't care about that.

    The other interesting thing was that she said she never had any interaction with Pam until after the first trial. She had to have interviewed her before trial, not to mention questioning her on the stand, so by "interaction" she must mean "social interaction." I interpret that as her saying she didn't socialize with Pam until after the trial. This is maybe not the great look she thinks it is.

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  4. 1 hour ago, CountryGirl said:

    I just rewatched the whole TC. That moment with the whispering took place before the first round of votes were cast and Hai's reaction, which I took as less confusion and more "crap, Daniel isn't with us at all" between Daniel saying he's calmed down by his obvious alliance members (aka not Hai or Lydia) and then Chanelle whispers "Lydia." He's still shaking his head as he goes to vote and I think he had a moment of panic where he thought "maybe I should just vote for Lydia and try to broker my way from the bottom," but then sticking to his vote for Jenny because you never know in this game.

    I don't know if the sequence was edited to make it look more dramatic, but I do agree that Hai caught the exchange between Chanelle and Daniel and realized they weren't with him and Lydia. Because the last info we got before TC was that they had agreed to split the votes -- guys on Mike, women on Jenny -- so if Hai had been following the plan he would have voted for Mike. I think once he realized that he and Lydia were on their own, he switched his vote from Mike to Jenny, knowing it might be a 4-2 result, but hoping for a 3-3. It was a Hail Mary, but the only thing he had, and as it shook out, with the two missing votes that he didn't know about before then, it worked.

    Assuming the tribes don't change up anytime soon, Hai and Lydia are in a good position now and I'm guessing will scoop Mike up as a third vote to get rid of Daniel and Chanelle.

     

    48 minutes ago, blackwing said:

    I do think Chanelle completely misplayed... if she knew her vote was important she shouldn't have risked it at all.  She and Omar had said that if there was a way to both get something, they should.  But she overplayed by telling Omar she absolutely couldn't risk her vote. From Omar's perspective, she said she absolutely couldn't risk her vote.  He reads the rules and sees that if they both risk, they both lose.  But if one protects and one risks, the one risk gets the advantage.  Since she was adamant about not losing her vote, I think he could assume she would protect.  He never said he wasn't going to risk his vote, so why would she assume that all of a sudden he would protect his vote?

    Omar did say he would protect her vote. First Chanelle said they shouldn't risk it unless both of them could get an advantage and he was nodding and saying "yes yes yes" the whole time, then right before they split up to do the wheel, he said, "if we can both get something without screwing over the other person and losing their vote, we should do it," and she agreed. Then we get THs from both of them, where they're trying to justify going back on that -- Chanelle's was that she believed Omar would protect her vote as he said he would and choose the option that would protect both of them so it was safe for her to risk hers, and Omar's was that he was certain Chanelle would protect her own vote so it was safe for him to risk his. They each thought they were outsmarting the other but ended up outsmarting themselves.

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  5. Daniel is a weasel. He had already lost me when he demanded that Mike again show him the note that came with the Beware idol, and when Mike started to hand it to him, he snatched it out of his hand and ran away. But he loses the idol and when Mike asks where it is, he immediately says, "you never gave it to me." Then at TC when Hai and Lydia are like, WTF, Daniel you said you were with us? without even blinking, he says that he was only voting the way Chanelle told him to vote. He doesn't even have to think about it; his natural instinct is to to lie and blame someone else when he's on the spot. That's not gameplay, that's a moral defect.

    Omar and Chanelle made the same mistake at the Prisoner's Dilemma. From their discussion beforehand, they clearly knew enough about what was coming to plan a strategy and it looked like they did. Twice they said if they could both get something, they would, but if not, then they'd play it safe. But there was no way they could both get an advantage. Either they both keep their vote, they both lose their vote, or one loses a vote and the other gets an extra. So if they had stuck to their agreement, they both would have protected their votes. Instead, each of them figured the other was going to protect their vote -- as agreed -- and then they could snake their way in and get an extra by risking their own. I wouldn't even call it stupid, just a calculated risk that failed for both of them. It was a bigger risk and a bigger fail for Chanelle since TC was that night and she was allied with a cowardly worm, but Omar will probably be okay. If his tribe goes to TC before the merge or shuffle or whatever is coming, then Jonathan and Lindsay will vote out Maryann.

    Hai's "where - are - the - votes" face at TC was so funny. The perfect mix of confusion, disgust, and hatred.

    Jonathan was really impressive at the challenge. I thought it was a little unfair that they had to do the entire challenge and the other tribes didn't, but it's better than a televised human sacrifice, so I get it. I thought they should have given the tribe an extra reward though, as recognition for doing the whole thing, like maybe let them keep the fruit they traded for the fishing kit.

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  6. 41 minutes ago, ProfCrash said:

    What is the entire sentence?  Is it you must read the phrase period or you must read and the others must read their phrases to activate the idols. I honestly don't know but Daniel's take on it after reading the note was that if he kept Mike from saying the phrase, and triggering the others, then Mike didn't have a vote. Daniel didn't say that based on what Mike repeated but after reading the note.

    It says, "At the next immunity challenge, you must say a secret phrase in front of the other players." That's in a paragraph by itself, and then in the following paragraphs, it explains how the rest of the activation works. Here's a somewhat blurry screencap of the note that someone on Reddit posted:

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  7. 1 hour ago, Hanahope said:

    Mike can "choose" not to "activate" his idol by not saying the phrase yet, whereas last season, they had to say the phrase immediately at the next challenge. 

    Mike read the note out loud and it did say, "at the next immunity challenge, you must say the secret phrase," so I'm wondering how he got away with not saying it. Either Production made a decision on the fly that it was more interesting to let Daniel and Chanelle manipulate him, or maybe a PA stepped in and told him he had to say it at the next challenge (I vaguely recall this happening a few seasons ago on one of those not-an-advantage advantages, but I can't remember the specifics) and he did say it, but they didn't show it to us for some crafted narrative reason.

    1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

    I wish the show was more transparent with the audience about this stuff. I assume they are with the contestants but honestly who knows lol.

    I agree. I don't mind if it's a situation that may or may not happen, like when they instituted the rule about going to rocks after ties, but when it's something that's already playing out, it would help to understand the players' strategies if we had the same information they have.

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  8. 2 hours ago, PaperTree said:

    Do they replace the used scrolls so it's always a 1 in 6 shot, or is it now 1 in 4?

    I don't know, but I assume they replace it in the way that @eel21788 described:

    1 hour ago, eel21788 said:

    Production would have to check which scroll was drawn after each attempt, so they could replace it with a similar scroll in case the next person to vote wants to use the Shot in the Dark, too, to keep the odds the same for everyone.

    It would have been interesting if both Marya and Maryanne had played their SITDs last night and both been safe. Or ... maybe more infuriating than interesting.

     

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  9. 2 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

    I'm also suspicious of how this works. They have some sort of token they drop into some sort of container and out pops a little scroll of paper.

    The scrolls are all in a bag next to the container. They reach into the bag and grab one of the scrolls.

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  10. The blue team is a mess. I look forward to watching them self-destruct. I would have rather seen any of them (except maybe Romeo) go before Zach, but they seem like a group that's going to keep losing, so it's fine.

    Tori looks like Christa Hastie's Mini-Me. Christa was pretty tall and nearly as strong as Rupert, but she and Tori have the same face and snuffly way of talking.

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    Everyone not on Blue seems okay so far, although I was looking at the cast list and Chanelle sounded so unfamiliar that I had to look at her picture and I still don't have any memory of her from the episode.

    Jeff walking into camp is like the Grim Reaper dropping by. As soon as I saw him on the boat, I knew someone was leaving and maybe this was just editing, but the look on Jackson's face said he knew it was going to be him. I do think the producers knew they were going to pull him before the game even started, but I also think there's more to the story than we heard. The whole thing sounds really strange, starting with lithium being used as a sleep aid. That's just not a normal use for it, and it doesn't seem like a reputable doctor would prescribe it for that.

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  11. On 3/6/2022 at 7:15 PM, andromeda331 said:

    Trudy and Monk meeting when they were a little older makes the episode with Trudy's parents more sense too. They show a flash back of Trudy introducing Monk to his parents. At that time he was already police officer possibly already a detective. That doesn't make sense if they met and started dating in college. 

    That was a good episode, even though Kevin was in it. Her parents were so gentle with Monk, and it was cute the way her mom remembered to put his dinner on separate plates.

    What do people think of Karen Stottlemeyer? I always liked Glenne Headly, but Karen was hard to take. It seemed odd that she and the kids blamed Leland for the divorce, and he seemed to agree with that. I don't get it. He had always been so devoted to her and supported her filmmaking career (despite how TURRRIBLE her films were, if the one about the oldest man in the world was any indication), but after she left him with no explanation, the older son is mad at him. Of course, he did move on pretty quickly with murderous realtor, but even so, I don't see how Karen wasn't at least equally at fault for the divorce.

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  12. On 3/3/2022 at 5:04 PM, vousviou said:

    I'm not sure why Penn's prescription glasses weren't good enough for him to see that amount of detail, though. I assume getting an up to date pair is the kind of thing you'd have on your check list before the starting line, but maybe there wasn't much time this season to get ready?

    I'm only guessing, but he's old enough to wear progressive lenses and those can be hard to look through at distances because you tend to tilt your head up when doing so, but then you're looking through the lower, magnified part of the lens, which is only meant for close seeing. Yesterday I was in an unfamiliar store and trying to look down to the far end of each aisle and it was murder. Everything just blurs out. If you see a person with glasses bobbling their heads around while looking at something, they're probably wearing progressives and trying to find the sweet spot.

    It would have been funny if Dusty and Ryan had removed their shirts at the finish line. Maybe they were too sad. I don't mind Dusty, but he talks so much. When he was going on and on and said he hoped they gave a voice to the wrongfully convicted, I thought it would be nice if he'd be quiet for a second and let the only one of them who had been wrongfully convicted actually speak. But kudos to the editors for cutting to the cops at that moment, nodding proudly, like, "yes, we've arrested the wrong guy lots of times."

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  13. I started watching this for the first time only a few months ago when Decades began airing it and got drawn in so quickly that I've now binge watched the entire series twice. I just adore Mr. Monk and became so protective of him that I'd get anxious whenever he'd so much as get his feelings hurt.

    Favorite episodes are the two with Ambrose, the one with the dog, the one with the kid, and any episode where he's not quite himself (when he's on anti-depressants, hypnotized, or drunk), but really they're all great.

    I too was bothered by the timeline problem when it turned out that Trudy had a baby in 1983, even though they were supposed to have met in college and graduated in 1981, so I've decided to make the college reunion episode the problem. Trudy was born in 1962 (it's on her headstone) and Adrian probably in 1959 (in Mr. Monk and Little Monk, he's in the 8th grade in 1972), so Adrian graduating in 1981 makes sense, but not Trudy. Also, Ambrose said something like, Adrian started dating women when he was "only 26," and they didn't marry until 1990, so I prefer to think that they didn't meet each other until they were a little bit older, and the reunion episode, while very sweet, is just an alternate timeline.

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  14. 13 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

    I was curious, and maybe the posters who were familiar with the first incarnation of ACG&S can help me.  Was the storyline of Siegfried being untruthful about Tristan's veterinary status in the books or the original series.?  This silly storyline seems so out of place.

    No, it wasn't. In the original series and books, Tristan was portrayed as intellectually gifted, but very very lazy about studying. He failed his exams repeatedly, and after each time, Siegfried would throw him out of the house (then forget about it within 12 hours). Tristan received notice in the mail that he had passed his exams and was qualified right before Siegfried and James left to join the RAF.

    Also in the original, Diana Brompton was a much younger woman, a snobbish socialite who was reliably rude to James and somewhat dismissive of Helen. The current writers' habit of taking the names of already established characters and slapping them on different characters is only one of the things annoying me about the series.

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  15. 12 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

    So Shan's RHAP:

    ...  She would have liked to have worked with Evvie.  

    ... She feels her downfall was giving up the 'knowledge is power' to Liana, but she wouldn't have told anyone she had it.

    If she wanted to work with Evvie, then maybe she shouldn't have repeatedly targeted Evvie for the vote. Hard to work with someone who's at Ponderosa. And her claim that she wouldn't have told anyone about the knowledge is power advantage is ... I don't even know what to say about that after-the-fact nonsense. She was the one who told Tiffany that Liana had it.

    I don't think Shan has the ability to tell the truth about anything. She'll say whatever she thinks will benefit her in the moment and maybe even believes it while she's saying it. That's sad for her, but worse for anyone who has to be around her.

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  16. On 10/13/2021 at 1:25 PM, ctlady said:

    A little bit of Happy Days trivia:

    What was the first line Fonzie ever said on the show?

    I just saw this yesterday because MeTV reran the first episode. I'll let the Fonz speak for himself:

    The night before that they showed the last episode ever aired, which wasn't Joanie and Chachi's wedding because they originally aired them out of order, but instead was the one where Fonzie is talked into joining the Leopard Lodge and as part of his initiation he has to wear a bunny suit and hop around. So it's a relief to go back to season one Fonzie.

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  17. So, that was a season, I guess. Good cast, though. There are quite a few people I'd like to see play again. Erika, because all along I felt like she was playing a smart game and we certainly heard from everyone who was targeting her all season about how smart she was, but we only got glimpses of it. If she comes back, it would be nice to see them focus more on her. Deshawn, because he could openly burn people and yet they'd still want to work with him after so he obviously was more charming than they showed. He did play emotionally and made some missteps, but being aware of that, he might be more reserved if he played again. Ricard because he was a great player. Naseer, who wasn't a great player, but I just liked him. Danny, also not a great player, but, well, have you seen Danny? Tiffany because everyone loved her and said she was fun and charismatic, but again they barely showed us that. Evvie because she seems like a good person.

    Meh on all the pre-merge people, Liana, Xander, Sydney.

    No on Shan and Heather.

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  18. That makes me sad for Ricard. On the way he said he was looking forward to seeing Shan, and when he first got there, it seemed okay, she hugged him and was smiling, but the next morning -- yikes. That was bad. He's sitting there feeling sad and waiting for someone to wake up, and then she won't even look at him. What the hell. Shan is hardly the first player who can't get over losing (somewhere right now Andrew Savage is sticking pins in a Lil doll, Russell is crank calling Natalie White, and Coach is sobbing), but I don't understand that attitude. If you have a 1 in 18 chance at a win, you're probably going to lose. It's not the worst thing in the world. Shan looks especially bad compared to Evvie coming out to greet Liana with a huge hug and immediately saying, "you and I are fine." Everyone at Ponderosa is in the same boat; they're all disappointed about losing. Shan needs to realize there was nothing special about her game and nothing special about her loss.

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  19. 6 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

    The fact that jurors were nodding along during some of Xander's answers isn't really evidence of a strong social game throughout the season.

    To me the biggest tell that Xander had a poor social game is that he thought Erika was a goat. Social game isn't just having people like you; it's understanding the social dynamics of the group, and Xander clearly did not. His bringing Erika to the F3 isn't the same as Colby bringing Tina or Woo bringing Tony. Colby and Woo did it because they (foolishly or not depending on anyone's particular point of view) wanted to go up against someone they considered deserving of winning the game. Xander bringing Erika to be the goat is like Russell bringing Sandra to be the goat, just a bad, wrong decision that shows they didn't know what was happening in the game. 

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  20. CBS also wanted to do a celebrity season of Survivor back in the early ‘00s using stars from their then-current shows and floated Kevin James and Ray Romano as possibilities. Nothing came of it so I assume all their actors were like, “LOL no.”

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