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1 hour ago, 30 Helens said:
I had no problem with CT or Trishelle voting out MJ if they really suspected her, but I don't think that was the reason. I think they just wanted a bigger share of the prize.
I take CT at his word when he says there’s no one else he’d rather share the prize with than Trishelle.
I don’t believe anyone actually thought MJ was a traitor. I actually find it pretty funny that MJ was voted out simply because she could be voted out.
It makes me wonder what would have happened if they kept stalemating.
12 hours ago, Ivana Tinkle said:Happy to see CT win, I've never seen him win a Challenge (not sure if he won one after I stopped watching) so it was nice to see him take it home.
I imagine you stopped watching a while ago. He’s won five Challenges.
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I think about Dan's "fear" of going to the end with other traitors. I want to say it doesn't make sense but on the other end, the rules and pattern of the game can change. It seems like a traitor would always need to bring another traitor as a sacrificial lamb that they can throw under the bus at the final roundtable or at the "Fire of Truth."
In this season, there was a murder and then a final roundtable. The murder clearly indicates there is still a traitor in the game when they're at the final roundtable. The faithfuls need to feel like they got the final traitor. If they don't get that traitor at the final roundtable, then they're clearly bringing a traitor to the end, the "Fire of Truth."
I rewatched Season 1, and it was a little tricky because the remaining traitors didn't murder anyone at that final meeting in the turret. The group had a roundtable and banished a traitor, then the traitors met in the turret but there was no murder, and then the group did another roundtable to get down to four players. Because there was no murder before the final roundtable, I can see how that gave the illusion of there being no more traitors when you get to the end.
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On 2/25/2024 at 11:37 PM, Irlandesa said:
The second season of the UK version is coming March 8.
Dammit. I thought they were putting up the whole season. They released the first three episodes.
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1 hour ago, NeenerNeener said:
I didn't see the reunion show from Season 1. Were there as many hard feelings among the Season 1 cast as there are among the Season 2 cast?
Yes, there were.
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Did CT just try to pull a Johnny Bananas and purposefully vote out MJ to steal the prize money from her? only to have that backfire at first because Trishelle voted for him?
All that MJ did just to get voted out in the end, and nobody actually thought she was a traitor... that's hilarious to me!
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10 minutes ago, NeenerNeener said:
Would it have been possible for Kate to pick MJ to murder, knowing she had the shield and was safe anyway?
If Bergie's attempted murder was any indication, I think she could have.
11 minutes ago, NeenerNeener said:If everybody showed up at breakfast the next morning then it would look like there were no traitors left and Kate would have been safer.
MJ would have known someone tried to murder her. She would have still gotten the "murder letter" from the Traitors because Bergie still got one, even though he had the shield. That's how Bergie knew that the traitors tried to murder him. Bergie still did the scene of him getting the letter from the traitors saying that he had been murdered. He did that and then went to the breakfast.
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Everyone is reading Kate like an open book... except MJ.
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The cast of “The Traitors” airs their grievances regarding murders, banishments and treachery.
Air date: March 7, 2024
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The toughest mission yet occurs on land, air and sea, with the Faithful or Traitors winning it all.
Air date: March 7, 2024
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31 minutes ago, mojoween said:
Was Laurel cheated on in a former life?
Didn't Nicole cheat on her?
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I'm still not sure how I feel about the mechanics of the game. It seems like luxury-Survivor with a game show at the end of it.
Not quite sure how I feel about the concept, specifically the game show at the end of it.
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2 hours ago, luckyroll3 said:
Producer: You and Berna were in the bathroom together. What happened there?
Emmanuel: Yeah, if you're in the bathroom with someone, doesn't mean that something happens.
Closed captions: [Sounds of something happening.]
Me:
I didn't watch it... but damn you're making me want to! 😂
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8 hours ago, seacliffsal said:
I just watched the second episode and am really liking Claudia. Loved that she spotted that Kim's faux crying did not include any tears.
That was hilarious!
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21 minutes ago, Hanahope said:
So i didn't see it as much this episode, but in so many of the prior episodes, Parvati's 'talking head' interview had her dressed in the same white outfit she wore the first day, yet she's clearly talking about events that occurred days later.
did they reshoot the first day? or ask some contestants to put on the same outfit from the first day to do some interviews?
It's not uncommon for reality shows to ask cast members to put on the same clothes and style their hair in the same way when they do interviews.
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2 hours ago, Meedis said:
I agree. I was thinking they should've went for MJ because that would've thrown confusion to Trishelle and John (and even CT) who were strongly on the Phaedra bandwagon.
I was thinking the same about getting rid of MJ. I'm not sure if Phaedra and Kate picked up on MJ's loyalty being questionable, but I definitely thought MJ should have been up for consideration. Even with them keeping John around and murdering MJ, they still had the numbers.
Kate, at least, should have picked up on MJ being curious enough to vote for Phaedra. That's because when Peter took Phaedra to the other room to distract her, Trishelle talked to Kate, Sheree, Sandra and MJ about voting for Phaedra. MJ indicated that she was willing to consider it (which I'm sure the producers made that a prominent moment just to leave us with the cliffhanger they gave us).
However, I'm not sure if Kate, who seemed like she really wanted to save Phaedra, passed that information to Phaedra.
12 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:Phaedra's game play was all about coasting which is actually pretty smart. She coasted on her connections to the other housewives and she coasted on the fact her fellow traitors were 100% more into playing the game than she was. She basically got to mostly chill while the other gave themselves away.
Right! Phaedra used the other traitors as a shield. They were bigger and more obvious targets than she was, and she relied on that.
Also, I'll add that Janelle has said that Phaedra would also do some "traitor hunting" with her, speculating about who might be a traitor.
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5 hours ago, Thalia said:
I need to watch a UK season. It is fun to watch the reality stars we know, but when they also know each other and their reps, I suspect it is harder for the players.
I watched the first UK season. It was phenomenal! It gave me everything I like about reality TV.
5 hours ago, Thalia said:This year, I'm not sure. I think the gamers, like Dan and Parvati were always going to be suspect, and they should have acted like Faithfuls from the beginning.
I agree. The way they acted was suspicious. People clocked Dan right away. However, I feel like their gameplay wouldn’t have changed all that much if they were faithfuls.
5 hours ago, Thalia said:Phaedra got far just being part of the Bravo alliance, but once Dan targeted her, she was doomed. Because yeah, once you're on several someone's radar it is difficult to defend yourself in this game.
Yes, Dan single-handedly tanked Phaedra’s game. Phaedra was on a sinking ship ever since.
I thought maybe Parvati could have thrown Phaedra a bone when she was voted out and said something like “Phaedra, my vote is for you but I’m pretty sure you’re not a traitor” because Parvati did learn that Phaedra had some loyalty to her fellow traitors and Phaedra never threw them under the bus.
14 hours ago, Rodney said:Dan taking Parvati and Phaedra's games down with his started the downfall
I think Parvati tanked her own game. They suspected Parvati before Dan did anything.
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23 minutes ago, Unclejosh said:
This show as filmed well over a year ago.
So they’ve been purposefully giving us the subpar shit and shoving it down our throats, while holding back what looks like a pretty decent All Star season.
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40 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:
I think Phaedra was just worn out. I know it’s only two weeks, but the stress of constantly deceiving while maintaining a public facade has to be exhausting. And when she had to look a longtime friend in the eye and flat out lie, I think that broke her.
And constantly having to fight.
I assume there's a roundtable everyday. Constantly having to defend yourself against people who are just relentless, never letting up, gets tiring. Knowing your name will always be called out and written down, no matter what you do or say, is exhausting. Granted, they don't have a ton of information to work with but it's hard to defend yourself against "evidence" that would be meaningless in the real world, but mean everything in The Traitors. It's hard to defend yourself against people's perceptions of how you should react, how should say things, and how you should emote.
If I'm being bombarded with that all the time, at some point, I'd just say "fuck it."
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1 minute ago, Thalia said:
Does Sandra know that Kate was tossing her name around?
I don't think she knew but I mean once Kate couldn't give a name, I felt that was a sign to Sandra that something was up or it should have been a sign.
Kate said they should save Phaedra for another day because there is someone else that could be a traitor. However, Kate is talking with three people. There is only seven people in the house. That only left Trishelle and Sheree, both of whom everyone is convinced are faithfuls. I felt that couldn't have been more obvious, especially for a Survivor player, that something was up the moment Kate couldn't give a name since she's pushing to vote someone else other than Phaedra. On Survivor, that would sound some alarm bells. If you're pushing to vote someone else out, you better have a name ready to say.
12 minutes ago, Thalia said:On one hand, Kate is kind of fun and it would be interesting to have her win.
I'm right there with you. I feel like they really wouldn't see it coming. I really want to see the shocked looks on their faces.
It would be nice revenge because I was rooting for Phaedra. Once Dan called her out, I figured at best she would be voted out at the end anyway... but I at least wanted her to make it to the end even if she was voted out.
I also would like Trishelle to lose. I want all the Peter Pals to lose.
18 minutes ago, Thalia said:I wouldn't mind if Kate had shared a pot as a faithful, but it isn't necessarily fair for her to swoop in late and win it all as the last Traitor standing.
And then only do 2 or 3 murders. I understand Cirie's perspective from last season when she said the reason she didn't share the prize with Arie was because she felt Arie came in as a traitor at the last minute. Arie didn't deal with that stress from day one.
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S02.E11: One Final Hurdle
in The Traitors (USA)
I listened to another interview with Sandra, and she says that Trishelle had previously expressed some suspicions about CT being a traitor. Clearly, we never see that on the show until the very end.
In this interview, Sandra also touched on MJ. She mentioned that MJ was kind of a rogue player and always did her own thing. I think we see that from time to time in the show. For Sandra, self-preservation takes precedence over finding a traitor and she demonstrates that when she breaks down the numbers with the billiards balls, and she’s telling the group that the traitors in “the Leftovers”, if any, need to also control the turret just as they all need to control the round table. Sandra also tells people that they can’t allow MJ to spend too much time with the Peter Pals or talk to them too much because MJ was always willing to hear people out and consider voting with them, rather than playing for preservation of the alliance.