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The drug may act like Red Bull but it's not caffeine. It's something that's prescribed to animals. It may not be legal to prescribe to people because of uncommon really bad side effects.

I think that me part of Kim's anger. She fought tooth and nail to get to the top and when she finally got there, she hated it. Since it has to be someone's fault, she picked Howard.

Caffeine can kill in large enough doses.

I get the feeling that Kim's revenge on Howard is something she's driven to do. There isn't any real logic to it. She's hated him for a long time with no real reason and every little real or imagined insult has made the hatred grow. In her mind, she's finally going to get this demon off of her and be free. Then she can turn the corner and everything will be perfect. One last unpleasant thing she has to do before she can change her life around. She's not really enjoying it now that its real. It's something she has to do. Then Jimmy tells her that the plan wasn't going to work and she through everything away. This was her last chance at redemption but her demons were more important.

Okay, I just had to go back and look. That seems to be on the side of the house with a porch below it so not much of a drop. And when he got into the house, they show him easily jump over the fence with no difficulty so I can see him lifting himself up and over the window and dropping down onto the porch. There was traffic noise and birds so any small sound would be muffled. And the dog was downstairs on the other side of the house.

That's where magic Lalo came in. He's the same Lalo that could crawl through a drop ceiling without making a sound. He's also the Lalo that escaped from an entire hit team. I think this is just one of those suspend your disbelief situations. He did it because the writers said he could. Compared to some of the stuff that happened in BB this is minor.

From what we've seen Lalo is a ruthless killer but he's not a random killer. He seems to kill for two reasons. He kills when its in his best interest to kill such as killing a witness to one of his crimes or someone whose dangerous to him and his family. Or if someone has seen him vulnerable like the doctor who saved him a few seasons ago or the couple earlier this season. As long as the widow never see's him, she's not a threat to him. And she saw him at his best and most charming. He's logical. Killing her would draw attention of too many people. And he left a lot of fingerprints. As soon as they figure out its him, they'll be international law after him.

I think that a lot of people believe that the final change from Jimmy to Saul will be connected to Kim. I've got two hypothesis. The first is a common one here. Kim betrays Jimmy and steals his money. The second one is that Kim gets more and more involved with the cartel. She changes her mind and wants out. She does her best to get out but gets caught up in a shootout between Lalo and the police. Lalo's dead. Kim's hurt and turns to a policeman who shoots her dead. Jimmy says to himself that if that's what justice is in America today, screw justice. I'll make my own justice.

Her mother became an alcoholic because Howard's dad deserted them. But I think its a little late to put that kind of curveball in.

It seems to me that if I was security, I'd want cameras on all sides of the house. Why couldn't Gus own all of the houses on all sides and officially live in the middle one. Watching just one side of the house doesn't seem very secure.

There's part of me that say the heck with it and have a high school scene with a 40 something year old high school students like they used to do in movies back when.

I always thought that thinking about the future is what people do whenever they get together. Personally, I don't like just passively consuming things. I want to try to figure things out. What I don't like are things like posting a stolen script on line.

I always liked Skylar. She was putting up with a jerk for a husband who wanted his own way and refused to compromise. Of course she got a little testy at times.

A private investigator in Germany that he had someone hire for him.

I don't think he's had people watching her for months. He figured out who she was shortly after her husband died and they gave a report on him and her. A lot of people follow the same routine. Everyone thinks he's dead so he's gone away to figure out how to take down Gus.

Lalo's scenes make sense to me. If you know a guy's name, his unusual occupation and the date and location of his death, it can't be that difficult to track him down. Lalo has had this on the back burner since Werner died. He didn't start to track her down in the last few days. He had people watching her for at least a little while and he knew she went to a bar down the street regularly. Walk in the bar and talk to a slightly drunk widow. Mention you come from the town where her husband was killed. She brings up her husband. He doesn't have to ask her about him. He acts interested. She keeps talking. She's a little drunk and here's a nice handsome guy whose willing to listen. In her mind, I'm sure she's thinking that he's listening to her because he's hoping to get lucky. He wants to keep her talking and she's happy to talk about her dead husband. The plan was to find out anything he could from her. When he didn't get much, he waited until she left then carefully went into her apartment without breaking in. His plan was to look around for some clues to find his workers who were with Werner in New Mexico. She clearly doesn't know anything. He didn't wear gloves because no one would know he was ever there. No one would look for him. When she came back, he knew that he'd left too much evidence. People saw him talking to her at the bar and his fingerprints are all over the place. Once they figure out who he is it isn't going to be just the local cops looking for him but the federal cops of both Germany and the U.S. Killing her or the dog was a bad idea. Plus, she didn't see him weak. If someone askes her about him, he was a handsome charming man. He tends to kill people who see him when he's weak. The problem is if she see's him, he has to kill her. All's she saw was an open window. Even if she calls the police, what's she going to say? There's nothing missing.

The thing about Jimmy/Saul's plan is that Howard has a history with prostitutes. The history was entirely invented by Jimmy but people know about it. That makes it more believable. Eye witness testimony is the least reliable testimony their is. Jimmy was driving Howard's car so that identification was accurate. And Jimmy looked enough like Howard that anyone who didn't know the two of them personally would think it was Howard if they only say him quickly or at a distance. Even people who knew him may be convinced because it was someone who looked a lot like Howard driving Howards car. They just want to create a reasonable doubt. And they did.

Rehashing to death is half the fun of these type places. But I agree that it shouldn't get personal.

If this episode happens in 2004 and the first season of BB were in 2008, that meant that Saul's line was about two people who haven't been heard from in 4 years, especially Nacho who we know is dead. Why bring up the name of two people who haven't been around in that long?

I'm pretty sure the DA told Kim.

I'm certain he didn't know for certain that Nacho was dead. The line did bring up two points. At some point between now and when that line is spoken, people in the cartel learn that Lalo is alive or Saul wouldn't have said it. And it can't be too far in the future when Saul says these lines. If no one had seen Nacho or Lalo for two or three years why bring them up?

That's sad but doesn't surprise me. IMO, with a few exceptions, the better the show, the more narrowly focused it is and the fewer people would like it. Most people in this thread consider BB to be a very good show, but during most of its run it averaged less than 2 million viewers an episode when an average show on network TV had closer to 5 million viewers. A lot of TV viewers today would consider BCS to be glacially slow because they can go more than 5 minutes without a gunfight, or a car chase or sex scene. (Exaugurated for effect.) BCS would never make it on network TV. It is too expensive, too slow, has too few episodes and takes to long to produce. It just wouldn't have enough viewers for it to be worth their while.

I just watched the scene again. It was ambiguous. When Mike said do it, he could have been talking to the guards to shoot Nacho also. That way he wouldn't have to and maybe they'll miss and kill the wrong guy and his people will be innocent.

I'm sure they were. I doubt that Gus was open to any other option.

I think that he was looking for options forever. He decided that he was out of options when he called his father. Once he made that decision, there was no turning back for him. In his mind, his fate was sealed.