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  1. Clapton mentioned she used a lot of black in the final seasons because she wanted to show the bleakness everyone is facing. If the series ends optimistically then this may be conveyed in the characters wearing colour once more, with a less monotone palette over all.
  2. Just when you thought Cersei couldn't get any more evil....
  3. If he starts to think he is threatened, then perhaps he turns the Mountain against her.
  4. The front of Cersei's outfit looks like the spine detail of her Dragonpit dress. Clapton said she wanted Cersei to look unimposing and trustworthy from the front, a mourning mother, but with a monstrous detail on the back that shows her true self. Now the spine is on the front. If her Dragonpit dress was to show a Cersei still trying to put on a front, I'm frightened to think of what this new dress will mean.
  5. There was a second page that showed he was paid for six episodes. I think the leads get paid for all episodes no matter what, but there is nothing to indicate NCW will only be in four.
  6. NCW is a big J/B shipper and has gone on record saying that the final season is almost perfect, plus Gwen and NCW have had extremely similar filming schedules. I expect it will go canon even if Jaime does die. The fact that the writers took every opportunity to reunite Brienne and Jaime and included scenes such as Bronn and Cersei commentating on their love for each other definitely makes me think there will be a Jaime Brienne romance next season. And I think it is important for Brienne's character. Because of her lifestyle and her appearance she has been treated as unworthy of romance, which is actually something she wants quite deeply considering how happy she was dancing at her ball before she found out it was a trick, and how she joined Renly's Kingsguard.
  7. I can imagine some sort of conclusion to Tormund's crush, probably something to do with Jaime seeing as he's up North next season. But seeing as the writers have had two seasons to develop the 'relationship' and instead decided to keep repeating the joke, it's unlikely they are going to try and present Tormund as a credible love interest in the final season with everything else going on. Not when they had two seasons to show Tormund's crush as anything other than a joke. It's very telling that the one time Tormund had a conversation with Brienne, it was cut just to show Brienne walking way in disgust. Have you heard Gwen's commentary of that scene? She literally goes 'ugh' the moment she sees him. It's hilarious. My ideal scenario is Jaime and Tormund getting into a fight, with Brienne coming along and breaking it up, only for Tormund to insult Jaime and Brienne becoming the one to defend Jaime's honour. I do think a moment of levity, a punchline to Tormund's crush is likely. But after that they shouls wholly focus on the relationships that truly matter to the characters, Brienne and Jaime and Pod and the Stark girls, and with Tormund and Jon and the other Freefolk.
  8. So my current feelings on Dany are less about whether or not she deserves to rule the North, because I don't think anyone deserves absolute control over people in the way that all the potential rulers in Game of Thrones expect, but more about what the North needs. And what the North needs most of all is to defeat the White Walkers, and it is Dany who has the best chance of bringing that about. So I'm not that fussed over Jon or Sansa's or any of the Stark's personal struggle to rule the North, because I'm less concerned over what they have done to get the North and more what they are going to do. So if Dany in charge of the North means a greater chance of success against the White Walkers, then Dany should be in charge of the North. With Jon having declared for Dany and any opposition more likely to cause division during a time when unity is needed most of all, for now the best course would be for Dany to be accepted as QITN. That said, if the White Walkers are defeated and priorities change and for some reason Dany is such a terrible queen it is worth the very possible suffering and bloodshed to have her overthrown, then the question can open up again.
  9. Clapton has always used hair and costume to relay to the audience information about a character, and we can see Dany's hair and costume quite clearly. Especially considering Clapton has specifically said that she used a white fur coat on Dany to evoke the image of a saviour, it stands to reason that this why Dany is dressed in this manner.
  10. I think this clips hints at Dany having grown as a diplomat. She is acting courteous and isn't trying to appear intimidating, but instead gracious and pleasant. Clapton said that Dany's previous white coat was to make her appear as a saviour, which is probably how Dany is presenting herself towards the Northerners (which she is, essentially). Appearance wise, the mixture of red and white of Dany's coat reminds me of a Weirwood Tree and Dany's hair is framing her face to make her look more gentle, and it looks like she is trying to appear friendly and open. I think this suggests she is trying to win over the North and make them like her. Behaviour wise she certainly isn't going down the intimidation route, but instead hopes to ingratiate herself judging by the way she is dressed and approached Sansa. I don't think we've seen this approach from her before, not with other powers. To the slavers and Cersei, and around her Westeros allies, she wore black and grey and her hair was more severe, making her look more intimidating. Here she seems to be adopting her 'Mhysa' persona, which makes sense as she is the Northerner's saviour more than anything else.
  11. I hope we do get some satisfaction for the smallfolk next season, a cathartic moment where they call out the nobles (wasn't there a casting call for a 'scene stealing Northerner' or something similar?) and some strong indication that their lives will improve, such as Dany or Jon making reforms in their favour. With so many of the characters and plot lines in the same place and in close confines with the smallfolk, their ordeal might have a bit more focus. Especially as the poverty that comes with Winter has the potential to be a good source of conflict next year. It would also be good development for whatever character ends up on the throne.
  12. Cersei could, just out of pettiness and her hatred of Robert, but I can't imagine Dany would. Aside from Gendry's innocence, he is an unacknowledged bastard, unknown to the Stormlands who would be the ones most likely to support a Baratheon claim. He has no experience in politics and no desire to rule. He has no wealth, no armies and his claim is dodgy at best. Dany isn't going to kill an innocent man who poses a minuscule threat to her claim, not when she has an army of Dothraki, Unsullied and two dragons there to defend her.
  13. I doubt Ice would be reforged. It would be impractical to turn two usable Valyrian steel swords into one cumbersome one when fighting against the White Walkers. And D&D have presented Oathkeeper as the sword symbolising Brienne and Jaime's bond more than anything else, with the scenes it is most prominent being about them. Especially Jaime's line "It's yours, it will always be yours'. In fact, NCW confirmed that Jaime was talking about his heart in that scene, represented by Oathkeeper. So it seems like D&D very much intend for Oathkeeper to stay in Brienne's hands. Especially as Brienne has been using Oathkeeper before the Starks for two season and not once have they requested Brienne give it to them, or even mentioned it. Even if they didn't know she had it, D&D has countless opportunities to foreshadow Ice's reforging, and chose not to. Instead, they repeatedly presented the sword as a symbol of the love and trust between Brienne and Jaime. I don't think they would chose to do so if it ends up being taken away from her and used to make Ice. Maybe it won't be a sword, but something to take down Viserion.
  14. I think Petyr was a genius, but after having so many successes he grew too confident and sure of his own abilities, which caused him to be less cautious and make more mistakes. This talk of the three of them being a perfect unit makes me wonder what they are going to be like next season when Dany arrives. We know Sansa will be unhappy, but it's assumed Arya will accept Dany quickly (because of Dany being a warrior queen, Arya trusting Jon etc..) If Sansa is having trouble with Jon's decision here, you would think that this would cause division between the Stark girls. So maybe Arya is also unsure of Dany's presence. That said, with Jon now around to defend his decisions and Arya now having more respect for Sansa, perhaps the two will handle disagreements between them in a more reasonable manner and even when they are in disagreement, they are able to work through it. That could be a good way of showing their growth from last season.
  15. I don't believe GRRM is intent on wiping out Tywin's line specifically, this actually goes against a very common theme throughout the show of not being punished for the father's sins. I think we will see a fair bit of Jaime and Brienne together next season. Their actors have been seen together a fair few times during filming. With so much of their story to conclude, I wouldn't be surprised if nearly the majority of their scenes will be together. After all, Jaime needs a scene partner with Bronn gone, he is at odds with Tyrion and Jaime will be isolated up North, surrounded by enemies. It will only be natural he will cleave to Brienne.
  16. They have been setting up this romance since season 2. A great deal of their scenes; Jaime telling Brienne they can't choose who they love, their farewell in season 4, Jaime giving Brienne his sword, has all be confirmed to have romantic subtext by the cast and is building towards something. Also, NCW has been very vocal in both his support for the final season (far more than season 7) and for the Brienne/Jaime ship. That in itself suggests a good conclusion for their story. It's not like Jaime is going to die in the first episode, if at all, and his story with Brienne has been a major part of his arc and is hardly going to be pushed aside after all the effort that went into building it up.
  17. Although I think the Lannisters (and any house, really) is up for destruction, the whole thing about destroying 'Tywin's line' specifically counts more against its destruction than for, because that just flies against the whole 'not punishing for the father's' crime thing that has been going on.
  18. Even Lena ships it! Crack theory, Cersei knows something is up between the two and Qyburn knew Jaime risked his life to protect Brienne. In the books, Tarth is one of the places attacked by the Golden Company. I wonder if Cersei will order something similar next series.
  19. There is nothing to indicate that Sansa was kind to Brienne. Claiming that 'we don't know it didn't happen is no sufficient evidence. Being civil is not sufficient after what Brienne has done for Sansa. Sansa was able to show kindness to others while juggling those plates, she could very well do the same for Brienne. And after what Brienne has done for Sansa, the absolute minimum Sansa can do for Brienne is make the effort to show Brienne the appropriate respect and gratitude. Or at least show some indication of wanting to,
  20. Sansa was rude to Brienne once, and kind to Brienne never. That is the issue. After everything Brienne has done for Sansa, we have never seen a scene in which Sansa makes an effort to show Brienne that she holds her in high regard, nor has she given any indication that she does. Sansa being rude to a woman who is giving her advice is just a sign that Sansa is failing to be a grown up.
  21. She still did it. And more than once. Eventually changing her tune is nice and all but it doesn't negate anything. Brienne used to treat him like a hindrance and annoyance. I don't care that Pod doesn't see it that way. Any normal person would feel like crap for being treated that way. Just because Pod isn't allowed to by the writers doesn't change the fact that Brienne behaved the way she did. And maybe if the writers were capable, Sansa and Brienne's relationship would be different. They just can't do it. They can't do female relationships. And it's not a priority of theirs either, it would get in the way of all the sexism and DudeBro writing. I don't agree that every normal person reacts the same to rudeness. When it comes from a person who otherwise puts in a great deal of effort to help you, many can accept the flaws in others. I also disagree that a person recognising her faults and making strides to improve them is meaningless. Even so, what makes a distinction between Brienne and Sansa is Brienne makes an effort. She tries to do well by Pod, even if she makes mistakes. You may still not like Brienne as a result, but she puts in time and effort to show Podrick he matters to her. Sansa does NOTHING. That is the main problem. Brienne cares enough about Pod to dedicate two hours of her time every day in order to help him achieve his dreams. At no point does Sansa do anything to show Brienne she is of value to her, and then is outright rude to her. All I ask of Sansa is a bit effort, something to suggest Brienne matters to her, same as Brienne does for Pod. But Sansa doesn't. Because Brienne doesn't matter to her. Or it's just smart of her to teach him so she has to look out less for him. So he can defend himself so she can do her job. There is nothing to indicate that this is Brienne's intentions, and considering Brienne made her offer after apologising to Podrick and does so after confirming Podrick wishes to be knight, it is clear that Brienne is doing so for Podrick's benefit. The scene was staged as a heart warming, bonding moment between the two. Brienne's motives are clear, and her motives are pure.
  22. Your examples are all from way back when. When D&D still cared and still had the books to fall back on. As we have been subjected to pure D&D for the past few Seasons, there are no examples you listed from those. Interesting. I bring up the scripts to counter the points that it was unintentional on D&D's behalf that Sansa treated Brienne poorly and the argument that Sansa was doing it to protect Brienne (which was entirely unsupported by onscreen evidence but was still being suggested). What happens on screen was enough for me, but that isn't the case for everyone. Lady Crane and Arya, Brienne and Arya, the continuation of Dany and Missandei are all from recent seasons. Even if you believe these relationships were poorly done (which I don't necessarily agree with) it's clear the writers intended for them to show mutual respect between the characters. So even if they aren't good at writing female relationships, they can make it clear when they are trying to write a positive one.
  23. "I did next to nothing" is not biting his head off, but even if it was as you say, Brienne still caught herself and made an effort to change her attitude. That Brienne has treated Pod poorly is not the issue, it's that she has also made great effort into checking herself and treating him well, something Pod appreciates and accepts. Meanwhile Sansa has either treated Brienne poorly or indifferently. One moment of genuinely selfless and kind treatment of Brienne from Sansa would make all the difference, but there isn't one.
  24. After Brienne's apology she makes a promise to help Pod and sticks to it, vey much showing that the apology meant something. Brienne makes digs at Podrick, but also has taken the time to give up her time and energy to train him and help him accomplish his goals, showing her regard and care for him. Podrick accepts this is how Brienne shows her affection, and embraces it, as evidenced by his only growing affection of her. That Pod does not view these jibes as a deal breaker is evident is his relationship with Bronn and Tyrion, and this continues with Brienne. Instead, they both show their care and respect for each in different ways, which they both accept and understand. Unlike Brienne, Sansa does nothing to suggest she has any care for Brienne. Sansa's rudeness to Brienne in season 7 isn't the problem in itself, but the fact that along with this she has done nothing that suggests Brienne is of any value to her casts her in a very unpleasant light. Whereas Brienne is rude to Podrick (who has established he doesn't mind), but invests time and effort to show that he matters to her and she respects him. These scripts shows that it is the writer's intentions that Sansa resent Brienne for having a friendship with Arya, a very unpleasant revelation about her character. That is very much the writer's intentions. That is not their trying to write a mutually loving relationship and failing, that is the writers wanting Sansa to treat Brienne this way. And at the end of the day, we can only go by what we have on screen. 'Girl talks' (which I disagree with in terms of being the only relationships on the show, Brienne and Arya/Catelyn, Arya and Lady Crane, Sansa and Shae etc..) may be insufficient in terms of skill, but is shows the writer's intent is to show a good relationship. That they don't include anything like that between Sansa and Brienne only tells me one thing, and that is Sansa doesn't care about Brienne.
  25. You are skipping the bit where Brienne apologised to Pod, bonded with him and is dedicating time to training him and helping him fulfil his dream. This confirmation that Sansa was acting out of pettiness, had no intention of protecting Brienne and thus have NEVER shown any proper gratitude or affection (nor has made an effort or shown a desire to) for Brienne doesn't make Sansa evil, but it does suggest some rather nasty aspects of her personality and makes me dislike her heartily after having for a while quite enjoyed her character. I will admit, I'm disappointed that Sansa and Brienne's relationship went where it did. Pre-season 6 I loved both their characters and had hoped to see a bond form between the two like there had been between Jon and Davos or Dany and Missandei or even better like Brienne and Cat. Instead the writers have decided to create a very different dynamic, which while interesting, has made me like Sansa a lot less than I did. That's not to say it wasn't logical. I guess the authors are trying to go for a dynamic where Sansa is trying to appear like an adult and in control, causing her to be needlessly rude to someone who is just trying to help her, or maybe Sansa knows Brienne won't leave her and is Sansa's inferior, so she makes a good target to take her frustrations out on. Which is human and understandable, but very unpleasant and undeserved for the woman who has saved Sansa's life, and as a Brienne fan first and foremost it made me go off Sansa very much. In a way, I suspect it is the same for Jon and Arya fans. We can excuse quite lot of the characters many things, but when they treat our faves in a way we don't like, they become the enemy. Funnily enough, I was disliking Arya a fair bit after the way she treated Sansa.
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