HJCougar

And even then, once he decides what he is (usually the last episode of the season) by the next season's premiere he has become undecided again. They just keep doing the same season over and over and the same realizations over and over, every now and then they throw in new, unwanted, masks so they can say...see, it's different. Same story, same backwards movement, no true growth whatsoever. It's like watching a year long Groundhog Day loop. Their writers have the easiest job on television. All they have to do is take the previous year's scripts and swap out character names.

Perfectly stated. This is exactly how I feel.

I don't think this was a trailer just for episode 1. I think it is for several episodes. So it could be Episode 5. But then again, it could be from Episode 2 or any episode after (since we don't see the BF in epi 1 until the end of the episode and it isn't in the police station which this kiss was).

I'm pretty sure he stated several months ago that he missed pizza and started eating dairy again. I vaguely remember it but I don't remember where I read it. I want to say it was something he said at a fan event, but I am not sure.

I'm conflicted at what Donna did. I do see your point but I just don't know that I buy that Donna was a making a decision for Felicity at the end so much as I got the feeling she just wanted Noah gone because of something sinister she knows about. I think there is more to the story than just what was spilled the other night and she is still protecting Felicity from whatever that is. And Noah leaving was ultimately his own decision. Donna couldn't make him do anything. I didn't like her lie to Felicity when she returned to the loft though. She could have told Felicity that she asked Noah to go and he did. I don't think he's really gone though. If I remember correctly, when PB & EK were taking snapchats and BTS photos the last couple of days of shooting, EBR was in the make-up chair and TA was standing in the door of the make-up room, so wouldn't that mean he's going to be in the finale? Does Donna even know that Felicity feels that way? For years Donna thought she would lose Felicity because she wasn't as smart as Felicity and Noah. I have to wonder if she was so certain of her own inadequacies that she didn't realize that Felicity would feel unloved because Donna loved her so much. I don't remember a scene where Felicity ever said she felt that way to Donna. Maybe I am forgetting that scene? Add in the fact that Felicity left home early to go to college and never really ever went back, I don't know when Donna would have felt the time was right to tell Felicity. Although, regardless of time, I don't think she ever would have told her since she thought that Noah was out of their life forever, unless Felicity had told her that she felt no one would ever love her because her father abandoned her. If she had, I think Donna would have owned up to the lie/decision to protect her by taking her away from her father. I don't think Donna would have let her suffer that way for something she, herself, did. But maybe I'm blinded by my love for Donna and her love for Felicity.

I think it is totally understandable why Felicity forgave her mother. She's her mother for goodness sake and Donna did what she did to protect her daughter. I have personally lived through something similar in my life and I have to say that I just couldn't stay mad at my mother...she's my mother. She loves me, she protects me, she still wants to provide for me (even though I am way past the age of needing her to do so). She's my mother. Did it change how I look at other people? Yes. Am I harder on other people who do the same thing as my mother did? Absolutely. Did it make me realize that I never ever wanted to get married and have kids? YES...IN ALL CAPS. But it doesn't change the fact that I love my mother and forgave her, pretty easily actually. So I understand why Felicity assured her mother that she wouldn't lose her and forgave her. But that doesn't mean that the lessons she learned growing up isn't going to factor in when dealing with someone who isn't her mother and could affect her life in the future by doing the same thing (i.e., Oliver's inability to tell the truth or ability to withhold the truth and locking her out of her own life). I'm interested to see how TPTB are going to try to connect these two things because to me, they are two totally different circumstances. I love Olicity with everything I have for a fictional couple, but they both need to work on things about themselves and work together as a couple to move forward. And trying to slide over that work by the writers trying to say that what Donna did is the same as what Oliver did and therefore Felicity needs to forgive Oliver the same as she did her mother is just not going to cut it for me.

Yes. Season 3 was awful and Season 4 seemed like a totally different show altogether, a show that wasn't good at all in my opinion. And this is from someone that absolutely loved S1&2 and I adore WM and never thought there would be a time when I wasn't loving Prison Break. I don't think you need to watch 3 or 4. However, it would probably be wise to at least read about what happened in S4, especially since you might need that information to understand what is going on in the reboot. Having said all that though, maybe you would like 3 & 4 and would enjoy watching it. WM, DP & SC are still good in their roles in those years. It is just the storylines for those seasons were not to my liking at all. S3 was extremely dark and depressing and the color palette is basically dirt brown. Not my thing at all, but you may like that. And as I stated before, S4 was more of a spy caper with twists and turns but using prisoners as your spies. To me it just wasn't Prison Break anymore.

Upon the writers releasing that quote, I immediately thought it was Ruve to Diggle. But I've read a lot of other theories out there with good possibilities such as Lyla to Diggle. I would really hate it if Felicity says it in a snide way; but if it is her, maybe it isn't said in a snide way but rather a cajoling way? Kind of in the way I can picture Lyla saying it to Diggle.

Ugh...that is going to be awful if that is really what they show. Poor Tommy. I'm still going to hold on to the 8.5 years flashback until I see it though. Just for my sanity. :-)

Maybe, but I just can't think when else it could be. They only had sex that one time, right? I know I ff'd through a lot of that time, but I thought it was only that one time. When else could it have been?

I think it will be a flashback to before the whole shipwreck...like 8.5 years ago.

I'm sure people will try to talk Felicity around, but Felicity didn't walk out on him because he kept William from her. She already told him she understood he was put in an impossible situation, so other people telling her what she already knows isn't going to make her rethink her leaving, because that isn't why she left. She left because he leaves her out of very important parts of his life. She even mentioned the fact that he decided to send William away without talking to her about it. He doesn't talk things through with her. He doesn't unburden himself to her. He isn't sharing his life with her. Felicity did not leave because he kept William from her but rather that it is a pattern with him to keep things from her. He isn't sharing his life with her, and that is what she isn't sure she wants to live with for her future.