VedaPierce

Yeah, but the differences are negligible to me. I didn't even notice that she didn't have a white kitchen. They both felt the same to me, not that there's anything wrong with them, I liked them both a lot, but it's very much a certain look that is happening now, and will also be very much dated in 5-10 years. But to have Luann trash what Ramoner did to Bethenny was funny to me, both styles looked the same. If Luanne had said something like, "Ramoner seems to be trying to do what you did Bethenny, but YOU do it right and Ramoner is a cheap imitation wannabe", that I could get behind...

I really can't stand that Hipster Doofus. Something about his presence on screen makes me disgusted. I hate his look, his aura, his energy, his whole persona disgusts me. I know this is a lot but for some reason, I just have this visceral reaction to this lazy, parasitic loaf.

I remember Heather being really awful to Kristin, who was supposed to be her friend. She dumped her at a race and ran with Kristin's husband, and subtly made fun of her with him. Yuck, gross, bitch move. Then she was an ass to her in Montana and picked on her during that idiotic Geo search and, while Kristin was terrified of heights, belittled her rock climbing or jumping or whatever. She not great with fellow women unless they are high up on the food chain, and I really loved when she would get all "gangsta", to show how bad-ass tough she was, retch. Yeah, Heather, you're so from the hood, you're practically a Blood, dahling! Ugh. Heather.

I know! To me, Bethenny's looked quite similar to Ramoner's, just .... more....same aesthetic though, for sure. Modern, whites, grays...I will say Bethenny's looked higher end while Ramoner loves her some Home Goods, but still, same feel.

Love all of this. GG is a monster with no control. She was married to Sholom for 20 minutes. That wasn't some great big love affair which needed all the gasps and screams and getting physically dragged out of the place, just because his other 20-minute ex wife was there. Who gives a rat's ass? Pull your shit together, GG, walk over and introduce yourself and have a conversation about your joke of an ex husband. Give me a break. The girl loves to put on a show for a camera. She loves the spotlight. She's an ass.

Thought it was kelly?...why wasn’t she in Mexico then?

Why wasn’t Kelly drunk in Mexico with the three party ‘girls’? Did she say Michael was sending her on a trip? Wasn’t she also surprised because Michael was paying for it and it came out of left field for her? Like he would never pay for her to go on a vacation willingly. Hmmmm.... wonder if this was cooked up between Michael and Vickie to get kelly out of Vickie’s hair and have Tamra and Shannon all to herself...so she could really bond with them and not share a spotlight with someone who probably parties harder and better than all of them put together. The three having a ‘Special Club Bracelet’—if you don’t have one, you’re not in the club!—and a stupid dance to go with it, makes me think this was a Vickie idea... also, she (Vickie) probably thinks she’s awesome and hilarious and the star when she’s partying in Mexico and didn’t want Kelly’s competition, because kelly most definitely would win the insanity award without trying as hard as Vickie. I keep remembering that this is a tv show first and foremost, and camera time is what all of these hookers are looking for the hardest.

Omg! You’re hilarious! That’s crazy tawk! I’m mainly from Long Island and occasionally hear myself and cringe.

I remember Maryann from Brooklyn and miss Howard stern so much! I never followed him to satellite. Vickie always tries so hard to be funny. Extra loud, laughing, telling everyone she meets “welcome to my world!” Ugh. She is so full of herself. She’s not charming or cute or unique. We are not dazzled by her. The doctor behaved the way we all feel. Not enjoying her antics. Maybe a little laugh to not embarrass her. She’s truly awful

I wouldn’t be surprised if superstition plays a part. I work with a guy that has been with the our company since it started, and he’s awful! Everyone says the owner doesn’t want to let him go because he’s superstitious. So he comes in late, does nothing but make trouble, and leaves early...

I remember that too. I also remember Meghan going out of her way to exclude Shannon from some idiot party of hers, while including everyone else, and Vickie bowing out of the party because of that bitch move, and hanging instead with Shannon that night. The rest of them ended up leaving the party to go be with Vickie and Shannon too. That was nice of Vickie. I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Heard about that! Heard it's insane!

I think Kelly dragged her Christopher Loyd-looking 'date' to the dinner, and proceeded to make out with him so publicly, to ensure it got shown on tv, to irritate her ex. That way, they couldn't edit it out. She wanted that to be seen by everyone, and lord was it ever.

Don't think Gina needs help. That girl's alright.

I don't know...her having a go at Vickie won me over pretty quick! I perked up as she went after her and caught myself smiling. Lol I liked it and want some more!

Awww, just posted same :(

Can't stand any of those annoying kids, but darn if my cold heart didn't melt a tiny bit when the older boy asked hopefully how many 'wake-ups left until daddy comes home?' That little moment made me very sad for the little guy. Stupid idiot parents.

Kelly's 100% right. Vickie IS a constant letdown. :( sad but true.

Totally.

You know, having a couple of new bimbos bat ole Vicks around will be very entertaining. Lol. I liked it and I don't even like the newbies that much yet. It pleased me. :) tee hee

That was soooo weird!!! She could have dropped the mike after dropping that Vickie betrayal bomb.....but then.... does that?....ugh. No . Wtf was that? She really is nutz. I think Vickie was genuinely stunned and confused! Lololol like a bird flying into a window! She had no idea! It was great.

Oh dear! Oh! Kelly had the boyfriend join....whoah! Now they're making out! Yikes! That's?......I don't know....CRAAAAAZY????

OMG! I FLOVE that Kelly brought this up at dinner!! Hahahahah vickie looked so stupid!

I also feel Carole is EXTREMELY manipulative and knows exactly what she’s doing that’s setting Bethenny off like a screaming banshee. Bethenny doesn’t get her way, doesn’t get control over the friendship and loses her shit. Carole doesn’t get control of the narrative and alienates a lot of people that side with Bethenny, she quits the show. That’s if she actually quit -not fired. I think the truth is somewhere in between. I think someone gave an ultimatum and it wasn’t met by Andy—or maybe it was depending on who gave the ultimatum. Maybe the ultimatum was given to Carole BY Andy and she refused to go along and DID quit. But that’s a way Bethenny could consider it a firing.

I agree with everything above. I have a friend like Carole. She’s the type of person that wants everything on her terms. She finds it easy to walk away instead of dealing with crap. Carole’s pissed that Bethenny said stuff about her and Adam to the others? She feels betrayed that Bethenny brings the issues up on camera? Walks away. She’s annoyed that a lot of viewers are reacting negatively to her behavior? Giving her pushback? Probably not as much support as she would like from Andy? Quits and walks away. She doesn’t want to deal or doesn’t know how to deal or can’t deal with conflicts. It’s a conflict that is affecting both her personal life and her professional life. That’s probably rough. I know I love escaping from annoying people at home to a job I enjoy- and vice versa. In any case, she runs from problems, in my opinion. I think it’s a little childish because in life, there will always be problems, and you grow as a person when you learn how to resolve them, but whatever. She may have enough ‘fuck you money’, and may feel she’s old enough to just walk away...something to be said for that as well. Life is short.