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  1. 5 hours ago, mayziemay said:

    Da laughed and laughed and said she was 'only a slut on Tuesdays', I can see Frank's confusion is all I am saying. And I do not like him one bit but would never put up with that crap and laugh.

    Yeah, he is completely in charge of the game right now.  They should know better than to try to appease him while he is in power.  How else would a 32 year old man know that its not right to slap women's asses unless blow up their game to tell him.

    You would be surprised at what you might put up with if you felt you had to or if the stakes were high enough.  

    Somehow trying to shift any part of the blame to Da'vonne because she is in a position to have to appease Frank seems like a very odd stance to me.

    I can't understand Frank's confusion at all.  Just because he behaves that way around his weird inbred family doesn't mean that he shouldn't know what he is doing is wrong.

    I would venture that most of us realize that we can't do the same things around family that we do in the world.

    My parents spanked me as a child.  I don't think that I can spank someone else's badass kid running around a Starbucks.

    No one had to sit me down and say "listen RCharter....you can't spank other people's children even though your parents did that."  Grown ass adults can generally pick up that sort of thing.

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  2. On 6/14/2016 at 3:11 AM, CofCinci said:

    With the first few moments of the trailer, I thought Dani Jr. was a nice girl.  Then, we see her upset in Morocco.... looks like she pushed the guy out of the way because she's upset that they can't PDA in Morocco.

    I'm not even mad at her.  She needs to get all her PDA's in before he gets the green card.  Strategic!!!

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  3. 8 hours ago, whimsey98 said:

    Siriano and Jones did get together and he came up with a design that she looks like she enjoyed wearing:  https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/leslie-jones-looks-red-hot-161800735.html

    With no offense meant to  Ashley, I don't think she could have done better.

    The fact that she enjoyed wearing it is what makes it beautiful.

    Ashley would have made that poor woman look like a hot mess with a flowerpot on her head.....and then cried about it.

    No thanks.

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  4. ^^ girl, you're about to get me all verklempt over here!  I wholeheartedly agree.  I am glad to have had the conversation, because I think these conversations are important, for me, in understanding what others go through and that the grass on the other side may not always be as green as I think it is.

    And most importantly they remind me to be as kind.

    As I'm naturally snarky, it can be tough to remember :)

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  5. 8 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

    Hey, hey guys, we're all cool here! Can we all band together and agree on one thing and that's this is not going to be another season 15? We don't have bigoted racists, or a bunch of misogynists who have their minions following every word that they say because they're afraid to go against the house. I'm just thrilled we've had more than two diverse houseguests this season, both in race and sexual orientation. We're lucky in that we've had more than half the house! Let's see...we have James, Zak, Day, Natalie, Jozea, Victor, Tiffany, and Bridgette! Oh yeah, and we've also had Glenn and maybe Bronte. Unfortunately we have Frank the Raging Misogynist, but at least people aren't completely sitting down and letting him say and do these things. 

    I totally understand that there's some disappointment in the first three evictees were all minorities, and Tiffany would be the fourth. But we still have so many more minorities in the house. And Frank is the next big target, and Frank's been throwing out Corey and Paulie's names as potentials to go next. Frank has been throwing everyone's names out, to be fair. It's funny because he has no F2 deal that will actually stick. He has nobody to trust. Maybe Bridgette, but if the Spy Girls get more numbers, she could easily dump Frank and I doubt she'd take Frank over Bronte or Natalie in the finals. 

    Also, I laugh at Frank saying he was never misted by Dan. Dude, you were the one misted most of all. You got Dan's own target out that week. Idiot. Dan was a phenomenal player, and Frank will never be anywhere close to his level. He's delusional if he thinks he outsmarted Dan. Nobody could outsmart Dan, not even Ian, in my opinion.

    Not for nothing, but Day AND Z?  And both are doing relatively well in the game (IMO)!  Neither was cast as cannon fodder!

    So, I do give some credit to someone for that.

    I do think that Jozea and Glenn were cast as cannon fodder/easy targets.  

    But now I'm trying to think of how many straight, white people were cast: Frank, Nicole, Bronte (I think?), Michelle, Corey (NotGayCorey), Paulie

    That is six houseguests out of how many?

    ETA: I totally understand not wanting anything to make casting decide that next season should be dedicated to all young straight white people.  The variety has made the house so much more interesting IMO.  When I think of the first four out of the house, I think at least three of them could be interesting comebacks.

    We barely got to see Glenn, and he seems like a super fan and a student of the game

    Jozea and his delusions

    Tiffany could potentially be interesting and I think once she gets booted from the game she will see things clearly and perhaps play a more strategic game.

    I think Victor is a total dud, so he can go back home to his mommy.

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  6. 2 hours ago, Nowhere said:

    Agreed. Society has told us for the past few decades that thinner is better. That is changing now though. Kardashian is now the ideal. 

    Yes, fat people have been made to feel bad but that doesn't make it right to keep hating on people. You said that nobody should feel bad about their bodies but before that were you saying it's ok for skinnies to feel bad because that's how fat people have always felt? I don't understand that reasoning. I know that fat people have gotten more shit. Absolutely. I just don't want to add to the shit but that is what's happening.  No body shame should mean don't shame anybody, regardless of their weight or anything else. It's still upsetting to be insulted, told to eat a cheeseburger or lay off cheeseburgers. I think we women should come together against all that shit and not tolerate it at all. We should have each other's backs.

    Yeah, they photoshop to add a butt or boobs that I guess I could get by eating a ton of cheeseburgers if that's what everybody thinks will do the trick. Fortunately they have photoshop to add fat to the places it's ok to be fat in.

    When bodybuilders go to the gym they go to gain weight. Muscle weight, not fat weight but they want the scale to show weight gain. I was talking more about bodybuilding and heavier, muscular women looking more fit. That's my opinion. Bigger women look healthier to me. I guess that's because I know I'm not that healthy.

    I think we agree on most things that matter. I think body shame should stop period. 

    Its funny, I was thinking about this discussion on my way to the supermarket (I know, right?)

    And I was thinking that one of the best examples, IMO, of raising up bigger women instead of tearing down skinnier ones was Christina Hendrix in MadMen.

    She was, by far, the most beautiful woman on the show.  And she was presented that way.  Every man in the office realized that she was gorgeous.  There were very few men, or women on the show that didn't absolutely think she was beautiful.  She was always in the prettiest outfits.  And she was not skinny, at all.

    No other character really had to be put down for Joan (her character) to be beautiful.  She just.....was.  And I think the way she was presented on that show changed some people's POV.  I almost certainly think the show was part of the tidal shift towards finding a more curvy figure acceptable.

    I don't think its okay for skinnies to feel bad, and I'm sorry if I gave that impression.  I do think that by saying "fuck skinny bitches" it focuses a spotlight on the issue of body image.  Everyone should have the chance to feel good about their body, not just skinny women, and not just fat women.  We should all be in the same boat....but for the most part, its almost always fat people that are in that boat.  Strangely, I think the woman who sang the song would ultimately agree with you that no one should be ashamed, but for years, as a society, we've been okay to make fat people, and most especially fat women feel terrible about themselves.

    I guess its just a difference in who we know.  Most of the women I know who lift weight do so as part of a weight loss/toning routine.  I've heard weight training enhances the effects of cardio.  

    The other day the trainer told me to do as many pushups as I could in a minute.  I did exactly one....and today my arms/chest feel on fire.  So, I might need to do more weight training myself :)

    In closing -- I do want to apologize if I offended you.  I didn't mean to.  I agree, body shaming should stop whether you be skinny or fat.  I think the experience might be a little different, but that certainly doesn't make it right.  I totally understand your anger at the Anaconda song.  I don't feel it, but I guess I would be upset if someone was like "fuck size 8 bitches!"  

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  7. 10 hours ago, lallalla said:

    I hope this is not too far off-topic, but based on my educational experience with similar people/personalities and my anecdotal, personal experience from a family member, I have a feeling a large part of it has to do with her innate personality.  I have a family member just a few years older than Whitney and she is very much the same way when it comes to attention, vindictiveness, etc.  She has to upstage everyone. If you've done something or been somewhere, she's done a fancier version of it.  She always has some kind of drama going on, often multiple threads of drama, and she commands attention and belittles others, she makes sure you know she will not hesitate to step on you should you question her about anything. The domineering presence and "don't f-- with me" persona is just staggering.  She had no illness as a child, was not an only child, but was catered to and taught that she was the most perfect, special being on the planet.  Her parents catered to her to sickening extremes. I am not sure if this fed an already present natural tendency to be a disgusting anomaly of a person or if it's what built it.  I have a feeling there is a tendency toward this in some and if fostered and catered to in childhood, they well learn how to surround themselves with people that will continue their self-script into adulthood. Everyone else will be cut off, maliciously, if they feel the need to do so.

    Classic "one-upper"

    9 hours ago, Ketzel said:

    There are any number of creative pursuits where the technique needed to participate ranges from "little-to-none" to "OMG-did-you-see-that?!"  Dance is one of them. Little children can run in circles to music and jump up and down and I'd call it dancing. Shy teenage boys can try to imitate Usher in front of the mirror in their bedroom, and I'd call it dancing. A fat woman can shake her hips, wave her arms in the air and bend over to show a video camera her ass, while Jason Derulo sings about how he lusts for her big fat butt, and I'd call it dancing. (I'd roll my eyes at the vulgar exhibitionism of it, but it's some kind of dancing. Not the good kind, imo, but some kind.) And if she's getting paid to do it, it probably qualifies as professional dancing . At least it does if you define professionalism as getting paid to do it. But that doesn't move it out of the "little-to-none" category of dance skill. (And heaven knows I've met many dancers who are "amateurs" by that standard whose dancing was definitely at the "OMG" end of the range, particularly among Latin competitive dancers.)

     What all three examples have in common, is that none of them have put in the necessary time and effort to become good dancers - to move along the range of skill (and respect for the work) that training and practice provide.  They aren't trained dancers, and there is just so far you can go, calling yourself a dancer, without mastering the technique of your chosen form or forms of dance.  Whitney's dancing shows no signs of technical training - not even very basic training like pointing her feet or extending her fingers in order to complete a body line. She's shown she can't balance on one leg, do a spin or rapid turns, or even control the movement she choses to do - watch how she does a hip lift, where she pushes her hip up and then lets it drop without any control. Most of her dancing relies on gravity and inertia, not muscular control. In short, she can call herself a dancer, but she's a very bad one. That she considers herself qualified to teach is absurd, regardless of her size.

    which is why people should show more respect for strippers.  That is professional dancing...and it looks damn hard!

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  8. 1 hour ago, lallalla said:

    Thank you for sharing that, I've really been struggling with self-love lately, all because I gained maybe 10-15lbs. 15lbs or slightly more less, and I get all kinds of remarks because I'm jaw-droppingly thin, yet at this weight, all because I basically can't see my ribs, I feel like a whale.  Body image can be a devastating thing and I wish that were more Whitney's focus and message than this trainwreck it's become. I want Whitney to love herself, have a life that she can actually full enjoy to the utmost, with a range of activities, I certainly don't want to see her continue down the path she's on, we all know it isn't going to get better as/if she gets bigger.

    I know how you feel.  I gained like 20 pounds while I studied for the bar and I didn't even want to leave my house.

    I don't think I was ever out of a size 8....but still.  I'm not done losing, but man, it was rough.

    Body image is rough.  But I don't think I have it nearly as tough as women who get pointed and laughed at, and if someone called me a fat leprechaun or a whale from their car I would probably break down and cry.

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  9. 54 minutes ago, Nowhere said:

    I don't think people would prefer the skinnier person necessarily. If we're talking mild differences, it comes down to personal preference so that's not really what I'm talking about. Now that women are lifting weights more than just old school aerobic exercise, a thicker physique seems more "fit" to me.

    People are actually spending a lot of money on getting fatter in a way by getting implants or redistributing their own fat. Butt implants are becoming what breast implants used to be. Where on your body is it acceptable to be fat is more of the question now. Maybe you don't want your tummy to be fat so you go to the doctor and he takes your tummy fat and plumps your ass with it. Fat is always ok for the butt and boobs. 

    I don't see how yelling at skinny women can bring awareness. Perhaps I misunderstood what you were saying but I think we should build eachother up and create awareness that way. I don't think tearing women down by saying fuck the skinny bitches is healthy. I don't think that's what you were saying but I wish the singer would have taken another approach, but oh well. Now is the time to insult skinny people in order to get fat girls to fist pump apparently.

    As far as supermodels go, that industry has changed a little for the better, but they have always been unattainable. airbrushing celebrities is a bigger problem I think because girls are falsely led to believe that these are real people just like you and me. No, they're heavily made up and airbrushed, just like you said, but not only to make them look thinner. They photoshop the hell out of them according to whatever is to their liking at the moment. Big butts are the rage and they photoshop thin actresses to look curvier.

    Anyway, no body shame is only for fat girls. Everyone else can stay shamed as far as Twit is concerned.

    I still think people are socially programmed to think that skinny is better.  I think society has shaped personal preference to some degree.

    Giant boobs isn't really getting fatter though....nor is just having a waist that 18 inches and butt implants.  I don't even know if that makes the body curvy anymore than I think it just makes people look like two "V's"

    I think songs like Anaconda can bring awareness......I mean....society says "fuck you" almost every day to fat people.  If the idea is that the rejection of skinny bodies makes skinny people feel bad, I guess thats maybe what fat people have felt for a long time....like their bodies are rejects and would be better if they were just skinnier.  

    I just think that historically, fat girls have probably had more shit thrown their way than skinny women.  And the "eat a cheeseburger" comments I tend to think come from people that are just salty and frustrated that their body may not be as socially acceptable as a skinnier body.

    And even still, if a celebrity is airbrushed, they aren't airbrushed to look fatter, they are airbrushed to look skinnier.   Women still starve themselves in the modelling industry and eat cotton balls, because being skinny is the ideal.  I haven't heard of a thin actress being photoshopped to look fatter.  I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I haven't heard of it.

    I do think that no body shame is for everyone....absolutely, no one should be made to feel bad about their body.  But I think the message is probably going to apply a little more sometimes to fat people, because I think....as a society......we really look down on fat people moreso than we do skinny people.

    Again, very few women are heading to the gym to gain weight.  They may do weights, but most of that is still in an effort to lose weight, not to gain weight.

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  10. 2 hours ago, Nowhere said:

    I know this to be true. I'm very thin and I can't stand myself. I have serious body image issues. I too have been criticized and made fun of. People telling me I have a flat butt, no figure, eat a cheeseburger, etc. Not to mention, the endless Facebook posts about how men prefer curvy women. One of which saying 99% of men prefer curvy women and the other 1% are gay. Songs that say fuck skinny bitches. It makes me upset for my daughter because we are now raising thin women to have more body image issues than they already naturally had. It hurts my feelings and before anyone says that thin women don't get yelled at or made fun of, keep in mind that, yes we do get made fun of and making fun of another group of people doesn't help the plight of your own group or however you categorize yourself. I am not the one who yells and makes fun so why should I have to be hurt? Hurting someone else can't possibly make a person feel better about themselves, right? Maybe I'm wrong about that since I've never tried it. 

    Whitney really inspired me at first and then I saw the music videos where she's shoving cupcakes down thin girls' throats. She obviously doesn't care about the rest of us or even like us, so I can't get behind her "no body shame". Fitting how the initials are BS since that's what it is. Bullshit.

    This was from the Episode 5 thread, but I'm trying respond in the thread I think it on topic.

    I think people have the right to feel any way they want.  But I can't see how being "too skinny" would present the same societal anger that being "too fat" represents.  I think its been much more ingrained in our society that fat is ugly and being skinny is better.  Or that fat means unhealthy, and skinny means healthy (of course, not to the extreme).  If you put a mildly fat person, next to a mildly skinny person, people would think the skinnier person is more attractive and more fit.

    Very few people are spending tons of money to get fatter, but many are spending that money to get skinny.

    I think the songs about "fuck skinny bitches" are, in their own way, a way of trying to give the middle finger to a system that routinely calls big girls ugly.  I can see your point about how yelling at you isn't going to make someone else feel better, but I do think it brings some awareness to the fact that beautiful women can come in all shapes and sizes.  

    I also think that particular song, in its context had a powerful message.  Because big women are societally cowed into feeling ashamed of themselves and how they look, at most "regular" clubs they won't go out on the dance floor because they don't want to be made fun of.  I saw the song as more of a "you're beautiful too, don't let anyone tell you that you can only be pretty if you're skinny! Get out there and dance!"

    And even in our culture today, how often are big women really prized.  Supermodels are still rail thin, the majority of music videos still feature skinny women, society still puts a woman on the cover of a magazine and airbrushes her to look skinnier.  If you see an overweight celebrity in the magazine rack, its normally to shame her for putting on a few pounds (National Enquirer Worst Beach Bodies).  But the minute that celebrity loses weight, they are put on the cover of the nearest glam magazine with an article on "how x lost the weight."

    Again, this is not to say that skinny women don't have a right to feel a certain way, I just think that because of societal pressure and standards, the discussion may be a little different.

    For a long time modern society has embraced the ideal image of the skinny woman, it just hasn't been that way with larger women.

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  11. On 6/16/2016 at 8:49 AM, kokleo25 said:
    • More news sifted from the internet. Mark is apparently suing TLC claiming defamation of character through the manipulation of footage from the show to falsely portray him in a bad light. He has related to friends that his life has "become a living hell" since the ending of the show.

    LOL, I can't believe that cheapskate is hiring a lawyer for a case he is going to lose.  Good times!

    On 6/29/2016 at 8:34 PM, truelovekiss said:

    I can't imagine anyone would ship that relationship. Except other creepy men.

    I'm sure they think Nikki is much too old.

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  12. On 7/6/2016 at 8:49 AM, archer1267 said:

    I read through the whole thread and can't believe I'm the first to post this...

    I can't stand the "You've Got Time" theme song. I hate it! I fast-forward through the opening credits. I have friends who like Regina Spektor but that damn song doesn't at all inspire me to seek out her music. Ugh.

     

    that song is just too.damn.long.....a lot of theme songs aren't the best, but that one seems to go on forever and ever.  I hate it too, and I always have to find that sweet spot when the song is just ending and the show is starting.  I think its generally around 2:43

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  13. @phoenics -- there is a conversation to be had about the dilemma that faces black women.  If you don't stand up for yourself, you get stepped on.  If you do stand up for yourself, you automatically become the stereotypical "angry black girl."

    As for those black men writing essays.....how many eye rolls can I insert in one place?  There are so many black men out there willing to put down black women and then get mad when black women are no longer interested in dating them.  And never mind that the same behavior they deride from black women is the same behavior they will accept from white women because they are so busy putting white women on these pedestals.

    I don't even know if I would be flattered if I were these white women, because very little of the attraction has to do with personality, but has so much to do with perceived social status.

    I'm not saying its all black men, but the ones willing to point the fingers and blame black women, are often the ones who earn my biggest eye rolls.

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  14. 9 hours ago, SongbirdHollow said:

    The last thing Whitney needs is "vindication" of the way she is.

    "featuring active plus-size women like kayakers, paddle boarders, professional weight-lifters, yogis, and boot campers. "They all do it in their extremely plus-size bodies."

    Has the founder of that magazine ever actually watched the show? Very poor choice for the cover based on what she purports to showcase. I would love to see women like that but I wouldn't buy it with Whit on the cover.

    Yeah, it seems like she maybe was told about Whitney and never did much research beyond maybe watching a YouTube video.  

    I can't imagine that she thought Whitney's "hoverround" at the parade was a very good representation of big women with an active lifestyle.

    I guess she needed to get a big name for her first issue, but it would be sort of cool to see big women who are the paddle boarders, do boot camp and yoga.

    Either way -- to end on a positive note, I think the picture of Whitney in the dress is very nice.

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  15. 33 minutes ago, Nowhere said:

    I don't think the shock collar was an appropriate means of communication. I understand that people miscommunicate and can hurt eachother with words intentionally or unintentionally. Sometimes it may seem intentional when it really isn't. But to physically hurt another person is pretty straight forward. They may as well have told them to slap their partner when their feelings were hurt. It was completely ridiculous and no real therapist would suggest such a thing. They make it so apparent that this is fake. It would be more enjoyable if the exercises were something that all of us could use and learn from. I have no desire to hurt my partner with a shock collar. It's abusive.

    Why is it ok that British continues to physically abuse Lorenzo or threaten to do so? Nobody ever addresses that she is violent. I'm not trying to judge her because I understand why she is so angry. I think she should leave his dumb ass immediately. I just think it's weird that it's rarely ever brought up.

    It seems like the judge is always taking the side of the female and neglecting the male's feelings. Both are human and deserve to be understood.

    During the canoeing exercise they again questioned if Cody could keep his emotions under control. I still haven't seen him act out harshly or become angry. I've only seen him cry and tell Michelle how much he loves her. If that is what they're talking about then I think they're placing blame on the wrong partner. She is very cold. If the situation was reversed and Michelle was the one crying, they'd be all over his ass and they wouldn't be blaming her for being emotional. I guess I just don't get why they aren't focusing more on Michelle's obvious disdain.

    I'm super annoyed by this.  Because she has outright struck him out of anger and I think it was pretty glossed over.  

    In some ways, she is lucky to be married to him.  If she had ended up with a man like Memphitz, she would be missing some teeth.

    I think a woman hitting a man is different, but I don't think women should be allowed to get away with physical violence on the argument that they are women and so its okay.

    Michelle seems like a bitch -- I think overposting selfies is the height of stupidity.....but I probably wouldn't be with a guy who did that sort of thing.  I don't know that I see the point in staying with someone if you're just going to spend all your time making their life miserable.  I'm not sure where she gets the idea she is some super awesome prize, she looks like everyone else in LA and is just mean.  That doesn't make her a special snowflake, that makes her like 85% of people in LA.

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  16. 13 hours ago, GenY said:

    When Memphitz had to leave at the end, he stated how he had to go take care of real life grown man business...okay I guess I see where he stands with his marriage then. Robbery and assault is nothing a grown-up should be doing. I hope Toya finds the strength to leave his condescending azz.

    Memphitz has a history of violence.  From his violent outburst, I'm betting that he has beaten Toya before.  He has all the classic signs.  Violent outburst, getting into personal space when questioned, and a follow up apology complete with victim blaming and insisting to others that "I don't really do that."

    http://107jamz.com/memphitz-admits-to-beating-k-michelle-and-lost-lawsuit-against-her/

    I guess Toya is probably embarrassed to admit that she is getting hit by her husband, and that she keeps going back to him.  Sadly I think she is suffering from battered woman's syndrome, and the hacks at this "marriage boot camp" are too stupid to see it.

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  17. 1 hour ago, lovetheduns said:

    My thought is that she dresses in all of those clothes because it is hard for her to find clothes that actually have to "fit." I am thinking at her size she can't fit into any off the rack even at a store like Lane Bryant so she may have more limited options to get clothes that do not stretch and need to be fitted. Some capri workout pants or spandex pants can stretch so much more than a pair of dress pants or khakis (similar to how she couldn't get any khaki shorts when working for the Grasshoppers) or even wear the largest baseball shirt that they had for her closed. (If you notice on the show she had it open as it didn't fit and had a similar colored shirt underneath). 

    Oh, thats interesting.  I had always assumed that Lane Bryant and other "plus size" stores didn't really have a size limit.  But I guess it makes sense that they do, because at some point the per piece pricing for really, really, really big clothing is probably higher and cuts into their margin.  How large is the clothing at Lane Bryant.  According to Whitney's clothing site, she is wearing a 3x, right?  Does it not go that big?

    If this is the case, maybe Whitney does have a good business opportunity to make clothing for....women her size.  In fact, it would be pretty cool if she learned how to sew so she could learn to adjust her clothing for her "needs" which I've already heard too much about.

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  18. 59 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

    There is Vanessa, oops I mean Tiffany, sitting there in the hat with eyes mostly hidden again, trying to look as much like her sister as possible.

    Maybe Bridgette will trip and fall trying to go down the stairs, just a minor head injury.  This week's eviction cancelled because she's out on a medical.  Replay.  Tiffany wins, and puts up Frank.

    Ta Da.

    Although I think Tiffany is a shit player anyway, she's been good this week, but she could have come clean about being Van's sister, and stressed how different they were, not stared at people and questioned them, not cried AT ALL except in diary, and been less argumentative.  She should have known she would be coming in with a sneaky, manipulative sister rep, and countered that by being open and goofy and never worn either a hat or sunglasses.  Dumb.

    ETA

    I hope Bridgette realizes almost no one is making calls on her, other than Frank, who looked like he was about to go out of his mind sitting there with her creepy giggle non stop.  Oh, and to use her bathroom. 

    yass!  or she trips while running to bring Frank gossip and cookies.  Someone decides that the HOH should be replayed and Tiff wins and puts up Frank.

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  19. 4 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

    Yeah, Paulie is playing almost exactly the same way his brother played.  Maybe everybody is hoping they will be the one he hands the grand prize to!

    I think the Cody/Paulie game is far less......assertive than the Vanessa game that is now being associated with Tiffany.

    Vanessa was clearly playing to win, I don't know that I really got that feeling from Cody

    2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

    Apparently the final round was Tiffany vs. Bridgette. Ugh!

    And Bridgette and Frank get to have an Outback Steakhouse meal, so I guess Bridgette could choose someone to take and picked him. Bridgette is an imbecile seriously.

    Also Bridgette hurt her ankle during the comp.

    If we're writing fan fiction, can someone write me some fan fiction where Frank gets booted and Bridgette gets booted immediately after?

    Because I really need for that to happen, they are both the worst.

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