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  1. i do have to say, cersie's wardrobe this week was stunning.
  2. meh. i was trying to figure out why the show even bothers with dorne......then it hit me. the sword dawn, which possibly could be the fabled sword lightbringer, is probably there. it'll probably end up with dany, and then jon at some point later. but yeah. the dorne casts, most of them, are some of the most poorly casted toons in the show.....the vipers, lol...more like the worms. the supposed bad ass fighters of the book fight like 3 year olds in the show.
  3. damn it! I think hbo duped us......upon letting it sink in and re-watching the season finale (on max audio to hear the whisperings.....they deliberately kept quiet the first part of lyanna's whispers...i can't make anything of it)... hbo fed us a bone on the most popular theory....R+L=Jon Snow............but the season finale technically only confirmed lyanna as the mother.....NOTHING MORE. of course most of us will say, well, duh, who else could the father be but rhaegar, making jon and dany nephew/aunty........there's confirmation and assumption......they really did not confirm rhaegar as the father.....so who else could it be? of course the predominant story was lyanna was raped by rhaegar. makes no sense as they are in love (supposedly, but for now let's go with that). rhaegar to most is an honorable man. kidnapping lyanna (a woman he loves) seems out of character..... but what if.....the story of rape is true...except, it was not by her beloved rhaegar.....but by the mad king. this would tie in to the theory of the mad king also raping tywin's wife. would be plausible and consistent with the actions of a mad king, not caring about the actions he takes. there is also the thing that jamie mentioned before his death....that after all this (the war), that he would make things right...which implies probably killing his mad father. perhaps not just to take father, but to avenge lyanna's disgrace. so there is a possibility he took her away from king's landing to save her from his mad father. was this devised to be this poetic by GRRM? all 3 protagonists losing their mothers after birth. tyrion's mother dies during childbirth, same for dany and jon.......all sired by the mad king? the same man.....which would make all 3 siblings......a 3 headed dragon. if true, all 3 would have these in common, in more ways than one. same father, same way they were brought into the world, same blood. if the southron ambition theory is true, is this the mad king's way of stopping it and the rebellion of the noble houses? by siring children from different houses? to thwart jon arryn's plans to allying the north and other families? not a good plan, but fitting for a mad man, i suppose, lol. history is written by the victors...and as we already witnessed and as bran is finding out, even his father embellished the truth when he told the story of fighting sir arthur dayne. whether hbo purposely left out confirming rhaegar as the father ...a sick joke to keep us guessing .....or whether they did it on purpose because he is not....who knows at this point. but to be fair, i can only take from that episode that the confirmation is that lyanna is the mother, nothing more, nothing less.
  4. wow...here's a very interesting take on the politics of it all...for newbies and devotees alike: http://www.vox.com/2016/6/26/12029644/winds-of-winter-recap-jon-snow-parents
  5. hmmm. it would seem, if the current alliances hold, that dany might somehow get her hands on dawn. but since dany is not much of a sword fighter........what are the odds that when the final battle comes, dany gives it to jon. fuck you hbo for making us wait a few years.
  6. i doubt you will be satisfied with the final season. i am almost sure they will milk 3 movies out of this ...which is basically the equivalent of another season....but sadly, 3 additional years instead of one.
  7. the thing is...sansa doesn't even want anything, she just wants to be home. she already saw through little finger's scheme and she would have none of it. but now she is thinking, little finger will wiggle his way by supporting jon and then using the bastard card once teh iron throne is in play because now, jon has the army to do it. sansa doesn't want to be ruler of winterfell. isn't starfall overseen by the martells? that would explain their role, i guess. still, such a boring house, lol. those girls need to fight better cause that fight scene with jamie was just laughable.
  8. interesting history on the sword dawn......for all we know, it could be lightbringer. at least now, the prophecy is a little less literal and a lot more subtle, lol. didnt azor ahai literally kill his beloved or something? "Dawn essentially brings forth light Dawn = brings light Dawn = Lightbringer"
  9. i thought about that. but prior seasons, didn't she admit to someone that she has guilt over jon and was about to make him a stark but didn't. but given what jon has done for the family, not sure he would mind that much. he avenged teh red wedding, after all.
  10. how about the son of the prince the house served? nah. i like the poetry of jon having longclaw, from the house mormont, headed by a feisty girl named lyanna. though, i suppose jon will return it to the feisty lyanna and her house as a tribute and he will need another sword.
  11. now you are just being emotional. you are trying to justify a second tier character to surpass an obvious first tier protagonist. as far as teh north is concerned, she is still lady bolton, who was married to a lannister who butchered their kin at the red wedding. no if or when's about it. ask grandma tyrell on that comment on no say on who she can marry.......oh wait, wasn't that why joffrey died? and didn't grandma tyrell choose who she married? didn't caitlyn choose ned over little finger? yup, the north remembers......how cunning women can be.....which also implied sansa might have married into those 2 families fro her own sake.
  12. i'm just wondering what little finger's gonna do now. he said he already pledged his banner to winterfell. and he was eagerly waiting in the meeting. as others were pledging their swords ( i guess a sign of pledging by raising it for jon), he was not. but the look sansa gave him and his litttle smile.......was he planning this and knew this would happen? was that the meaning on sansa's look? i suppose little finger can always support jon all the way to westeros and once he comes king, little finger can play the bastard card and that jon cannot be king due to that....little (haha, indirect pun) does he know about jon's lineage...... so it all works out. so i guess jon will need a witness....howland reed, perhaps?
  13. not fighting is a minor part....but it is a factor (to some houses). it is more the dilemma of sansa's relations with a lannister (who is responsible for the red wedding) and a bolton (who they just evicted). notice that they kept mentioning the red wedding and avenging it. why in god's name would they want a ruler who has some involvement with the people responsible for the red wedding and the people they just defeated? pretty sure they made that clear during the meeting....the red wedding was a big no no. there is no way for the families to know sansa's role with both the lannisters and boltons. we knew she was a victim.....they don't know that. they is no way for them to know that other than her word. but the red wedding was such a stain that any link to a lannister WILL be frowned UPON.
  14. wow. the azor ahai explanation was brilliant. it does meet the requirements, doesn't it? "but", that hint of the sword and all that is too exclusive for the average fan to get into.
  15. oh yeah....let;s not forget sir davos. i think he deserves an emmy nod for his work this season....especially that scene when confronting melissandre
  16. a friend of mine who reads the books said that in the books, there are other eggs scattered around the world. i just wonder if the show will even touch the subject. if they do, as per her namesake, mother of dragons, she will be able to hatch them for the coming war. i still think hbo will end the series prior to the great war and make the war arc with the white walkers into a 3 part movie. considering a season is about 10 hours, a trilogy would consist of a full season.
  17. from the episode "battle of the bastards", cersei's meister said "the rumors are true"..."much more".....safe to assume they were referring to the mad king's wildfire plan. given that they only used a small amount to destroy one building, cersei has some in stock. are we about to see the king killer once again do a heroic deed and kill cersei if she mimic's the mad king's actions......hear me out. this is the prophecy: "Maggy: Aye. Queen you shall be... until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear. Maggy: Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you. Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds, she said. And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you." going back to dany's break up with his lover from the second sons. she said she might have to marry into one of the noble houses. though in the back of my mind kind of had a feeling it might be tyrion since it looked like he was really falling in love with her, jamie makes more sense and more fitting with the prophecy. jamie is the last thing that cersei holds dear, and a marriage between dany and jamie will fulfill the requirement of the first part of the prophecy. i think at this point, cersei is already insane, caused by her grief of losing all her children. all she has left is jamie. so how will a mad woman liek cersei handle the scenario of dany conquering westeros and possibly marrying his beloved younger twin brother?..........remember the leftover wildfire i mentioned in the beginning? yup. she will copy th emad king and try to blow up the city so she can't have any of it, including jamie........and this will be the pinnacle of jamie's transformation. honor, duty, and all that shit. going back to tyrion's talk with dany from the season finale, forsaking your love for the good of the kingdom, or some BS speech like that......jamie will sacrifice his love for her to save the kingdom....and to also save cersei from her madness. =========== few notables: the scept building or whatever it's called......worry not. it looks like they recycled the building. doesn't the meister library look just like the blown up building? as some article somewhere pointed out, the chandeliers were the glowing things in the opening scenes fo the show....with the dragon, wolf, stag emblems on them. first i thought the sam scene was so pointless in that season finale. but now, maybe the director threw us all a nugget that those chandeliers might be forgotten valyrian weapons fro the first war and put there for safe keeping by the meisters of old. anybody else think tyrion has already fallen in love with dany? the looks he was giving and his tone....like a lovesick puppy.
  18. it's looking more like he will kill her out of love...a mercy killing so to speak. prophecy is: "Maggy: Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you. Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds, she said. And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you." if i have to guess, i believe cersei has gone mad now...insane (tears have drowned her, meaning she probably went mad with grief). she will probably mimic actions that of the mad king while on the throne and will probably go one step too far that for her own sake, jamie will have no choice but to kill her to save herself...if that makes any sense. this actually coincides with jamie's character development. what is interesting is what dany said about marrying into one of the noble houses. watching the episode again, it's almost like a toss up. tyrion looked as if he has fallen for dany. his situation will definitely change when (and she will die, that much we know) cersei dies....... but then again, jamie will also be free.....and marrying jamie might also coincide with the other prophecy of cersei "Maggy: Aye. Queen you shall be... until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear.".......taking all cersei holds dear, including jamie? put all that together, perhaps this will also be the final string to make jamie kill her, a possible attempt by cersei to harm dany once she takes the 7 kingdoms. an insane cersei with vindictive intentions towards dany for the arranged marriage with jamie (one fo the last things cersei holds dear)
  19. i guess the high sparrow was sent flying...in pieces.
  20. this is what will happen. montes will be declared ineligible to be president because no one vetted her to be a natural born citizen. they will milk that storyline and chaos for one whole season.
  21. well, to be fair......nobody really paid attention to the north unless they need soldiers to fight a war, so the north is the best place to keep a secret.
  22. i think only cersei. the hound was there too...but look how that turned out...she didnt do it.
  23. ah.....king killer becomes become a queen killer...did not see that coming.
  24. that was my point last week. she sure manages to avoid the really important battles, lol. regarding varys. i'm starting to think he has his own personal uber dragon, lol.
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