[S12.E20: Silence Is Golden]

From Lassus (and I don't know why it didn't quote) "Kathy is giving off a lot of "I am an adult. You are a monkey clown." vibes in this conversation with Rinna."

So much this!  The comment that Kathy needed a mental health intervention made me raise my eyebrows.  Perhaps Kathy does, I don't know but coming from a whacko like Rinna really says something.  *Glass house* something?

I'm trying to figure out Rinna's angle here.

[S12.E19: We Need to Talk About Kathy]

12 minutes ago, Talented Tenth said:

Yes, Erika and Rinna have behaved badly, but that doesn't mean that Kathy gets a pass.  If they need to be held accountable for their behavior, so does Kathy.  She doesn't get to be above it all.  She voluntarily signed up for the show just like them. 

I haven't even seen this episode (not on here yet) but Kathy gets a pass from me.  I don't have any other reason than just because and it also strikes me that nobody is ever held accountable for anything.  So, if Erika and Rinna are on the left side of the aisle, I'm putting Kathy on the right side and taking her side.  That works for me.

[S12.E18: Rocky Mountain Bye]

I know nobody asked but I have a few observations on Aspen.  I now live in Colorado and my husband and I visited last fall; we no longer ski but like to get a sense of perspective about many of the Colorado ski towns.  

Aspen is very small.  The main drag is perhaps 6 blocks by 6 blocks?  Easily walkable.  We didn't stay in Diana's hotel; we stayed in an obviously refurbished HoJos or Holiday Inn on the main drag.  It was completely fine and probably cost about $250/night.  Once again, completely fine.

The shopping was world-class.  I remember the Ralph Lauren store.  Don't remember the ski store or Kemo Sabe.  I do remember walking past a store with (what I believe are) 50ish Birkins.  Hmm.  Pretty fancy.

We had dinner in the middle of the downtown.  My entree (quail) was about $55.  This did not include anything else.  Salad?  More.  A vegetable?  More.  You get the idea.  The dinner was completely fine, I'm just adding some perspective.

I was worried about what I was wearing to dinner and I think I wore a pair of black jeans with some sort of sweater to dinner.  Probably white or gray.  Turns out, the guy sitting across from me was wearing basketball shorts and sneakers.  Trucker hat?  Perhaps.  Kathy has the right idea about not dressing up for Aspen.

I'm not sure people dress up anymore for anything.

[S12.E18: Rocky Mountain Bye]

I read through this thread and then watched the episode.  Like many of you, I'm scratching my head wondering what really happened (as in, that was a lot of boring).

So Erika temper tantrumed herself out of a confab and the next morning she was the injured party?  Okay?  Then Dorit had to stay with the precious flower because she had tears in her eyes?  What would have happened if Diana had not been there to welcome Erika to her suite?  These women are really exhausting.  Erika, you aren't the injured party.  Buck up and be a good guest.

Rinna, it really would have been more honest to stick two middle fingers up to Kathy and yell  "Fuck You.  Fuck You and Your Product Placement."  That was so incredibly, incredibly rude.  Rinna really is tone deaf.

I believe Dorit chose poorly.  Kyle, her BFF was the host and had a weekend of planned activities.  I guess I would consider them "work" activities.  Dorit should have been with the others at Kemo Sabe.  I notice nobody cared that Diana wasn't there.  I also note that Mo should have shut up about it.  Mo, nobody cares about your opinion, especially your wife.

Crystal explaining her moral compass to Dorit was like me explaining dinner time to my cat.  WE understand you Crystal but you're explaining something to a doggy dumper.  She didn't take any responsibility for that and she sure isn't going to understand "victims" and Girardi Keese.

It really is time to but this RH on hiatus.

[RHoBH in the Media]

Nice hair.😕

[S12.E17: The Girl with the Diamond Earrings]

3 hours ago, Castina said:

My take is Erika is pissed at Kyle, Kyle is mad/upset she left at night without talking to her and Rinna is not going to engage with Kyle and that group discussing the previous night.  Lines are being drawn and one can see how Diana, Erika and Rinna became a threesome and Dorit is riding the middle (which is alluded to in the two t's podcast by teddi, who I loathe lol but have listened to recently as I find she gives things away).  

Interesting.  Didn't Erika and Rinna also fall out at some point in time?  I seem to remember this and wonder if it was due to the whole Erika bailing on Kyle without Rinna knowing about it.

Along with all of you, I am so surprised Erika has played her hand so poorly.  She had months to think about her approach when the show was on hiatus.  Couldn't she at least say something like:

             "We know there were victims--these people were represented by Tom who won lawsuits on their behalf.  With Tom's loss of mental functioning, we all learned there were irreguarlities in some of the firm's accounts and we have all been terribly affected.  While I can't discuss the specifics but thankfully, with some forensic accounting and oversight by the courts, we can all come to an end to this mess Tom left us.  Hopefully we will all be made whole."  

Our something like that.  NOT, all I care about is ME.  

[S08.E12: Guys and Dolls]

This was a dumb episode.  Where to start?

First, when hosting a dinner with waitstaff and a chef, it really isn't proper for the chef to call you in to dinner like it was your mom calling you in to the kitchen table.  In general, you have an agreed timeframe for what should happen.  Drinks/hors served for half an hour (or so) then sitting down to dinner.   The front of the house and the back of the house communicate if something is off track.

Second, if the furniture wasn't ready to be used for this group because it hadn't been re-glued, then it shouldn't have been used.  If Patricia no longer had her big dining room table, then a cocktail party with heavy hors d'ouvres may have been the better choice.

Third, with this bunch, why oh why, would you serve red wine so they could ruin a $45,000 sofa?

Fourth, duck breast is meant to be served medium rare.  If you, Patricia, don't like duck medium rare, why would you think your guests would like it medium rare?  Go with quail or game hen.

Not much to say about the ladies and their night out other than I'm not sure I even like any of them.

[RHoBH in the Media]

From the page six article linked above (by ivygirl):

"I have been accused of instigating the hateful and inexcusable cyber bullying of Garcelle’s son. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have stood for human rights my whole life. There is no place for hate in this world,” she wrote. [Diana]

Really?  Have you actually seen yourself on this show?   Lord.

[Married To Medicine - General Discussion]

So I just watched the latest episode and I swear I can't even remember what I saw.  Let's see....A guy party, Toya and Eugene separately struggling with their lives, Anila and her mother in the car and she almost killed them (okay, I'm kidding about that but still), what else did I miss?  Oh, Heavenly apologizing to Daddy about disobeying him. *Snort*. This was a snoozer.

[S08.E11: Guess Who's Coming to Friendsgiving]

2 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

I think I like Paige.  She seems bright, and not altogether pointless. 

Please keep an open mind.  No need to decide one way or the other right now.  Perhaps you missed her on Summer House?

[S12.E16: Altitude Adjustment]

From the Vulture recap, the author wrote Rinna's outfit on the plane was so loud, the cast of Coda could hear it.  That is funny stuff.

Oh, and Kyle, whom I used to like, you don't have to worry about bears in the winter in Aspen, ya dumb drag queen.  They hibernate but I'm sure you know this because you've owned your house for three years. 

[S12.E16: Altitude Adjustment]

The show isn't on here yet--thanks for your comments--I'm going to give it a hard pass.  I don't want to be upset;  I'm going for the "entertained" vibe.

[RHoBH in the Media]

4 hours ago, dosodog said:

LVP is living her best life, celebrating a wedding anniversary and an adorable grandson.

Thank you for sharing; this is the sort of entertainment I would love to see on RHOBH.

[RHoBH in the Media]

1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

As Rinna says isn't it interesting?

Ooooh, good one!  I want this show to return to light, frothy entertainment.  By this I mean Dorit fussing about being served white wine in a red wine glass and debates about champagne being served in a coupe glass versus a flute.

[Lisa Rinna: These are the Lips of her Life]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

You forgot about making prank calls to all of LVP's restaurants and booking tables under the name Cedric Martinez, lol.

What?  She did this *allegedly?* 

Wow.

[Married To Medicine - General Discussion]

3 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

I agree with you @albarino that it was Daddy’s woman who didn’t understand the line (I don’t think Contessa does either, but I think part of that is her trying to create a storyline for herself.

Interesting!  Thanks.  I went back and watched it a second time (nobody said I was MENSA) and I think I was just so surprised Daddy reacted so strongly (for him).  They left very abruptly...

Your point about Contessa is also insightful.  Her storylines really are all over the place, aren't they.  I genuinely like her and you're right, she has very significant story "swings."  Mastectomy, then getting a Public Health degree to be a future PHS Surgeon General, setting up a practice with your spouse, to now training to be in a fitness competition.  It is a lot.

But I did completely understand her umbrage at Heavenly's Youtube video and that whole falling out and then Daddy's outburst at the dinner.  To me it was classic mansplaining when Daddy declared her disagreement with Heavenly was bullshit.  I was completely with her when she repeated she had the same credentials as Daddy. He can't make her feel one way when she doesn't.

I like this franchise and it is among my favorites aired on BRAVO. 

While I'm droning on, I thought the discussion of Toya and Eugene's son being accused of taking some sort of Xbox card was very interesting.  They live in an upper class neighborhood and yet felt his son's race was the issue making him a suspect in the card's disappearance.  That made me sad but I thought Eugene addressed it well.

[Married To Medicine - General Discussion]

4 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Dr. Heavenly loves Daddy so much but never takes his advice. She's going to do and say what ever she wants, when ever she wants. Daddy was pretty fed up with her this episode. 

Thanks for your thoughts; I was wondering if Daddy was really fed up with her, fed up with the other women, or both.  When he was saying the women don't understand "the line" or something like that he lost me a little bit.  No, his woman doesn't understand "the line."  I would put him in the category of those we would question "Do you even watch the show?" WTR Heavenly's behavior.  She hasn't changed; she has always been terrible.

I'm sorry her mother is dying but I'm not giving her a pass on her behavior.

4 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Anila=spoiled. For all you working moms out there seeing this brat complain about needing a nanny when she is a stay at home mom living in a mansion, it must be hard to watch her. 

Anila is extra special.  Her children are old enough to be managed (for lack of a better word).  They seem good enough and neither has special needs from what I can see.  I was a working mother; life is easier when kids have their set bed times/routines, wake up times/routines, after school routines, etc.  I'm not exactly sure why she is so stressed out.  She even works from home.  I think I'd be more stressed having my mother 'helping."

[RHoBH in the Media]

1 hour ago, goofygirl said:

Just so amazingly DUMB of them to choose this path with the "what about" ism when they could just put the kibosh on it.

YEP to the YEPth degree.  

I really liked this franchise back in the day.  Mi chapeau to the poster who likened this to watching the circle of the flush.  I'm watching to see what happens in Aspen (since it has been hyped since, when?  June?). I want to see Bravo "pause" this before the BravoCon.  Wonder how that conversation is going.

I don't follow the BravoCon discussion, anybody know if Dallas HWs will be there?  How about Ebony or Leah?  Heh, I think I could have fun if I were to attend (and no way in hell about that).

[S08.E10: Walking on Eggshells]

Lord!

Losers:  Shep.  Craig. Kathryn (just because).  Craig is such a little bitch!  Shep is a big bitch.  Cameron is laughing.

50/50: Whit.  Pregnant lady and hubs.  Austen.  Naomi.  Olivia.

Winners: L and V for leaving? Caterers. I would love to eat your food.  Taylor (?)(can't decide if she is a loser--she isn't but not sure about tonight's category).

[S08.E09: Auldbrass Glitters is Not Gold]

Not a FLW expert by any means but Auldbrass reminded me of Taliesin West in Phoenix--I toured it in Feb.  If you want FLW glamour, I recommend Grady Gammage at ASU.

I was riding my bike (Zwift) when I watched this so I'm sure I missed some nuance but I must add--Page, bless your heart, you're very common.  You really aren't that special so shut it about not trusting Naomi.  I'm sure she is having the last laugh.  You're stuck with, well, Craig and his pillows.  When they show his house, all I do is laugh.  If I were house hunting, I'd drive past it so fast I'd probably get a ticket!

Craig--What is up with the bro code and Whit and Naomi?  I honestly don't get it.  You have Page, you've said Naomi means absolutely nothing to you, so I'm confused.  Is this Craig just being Craig?

Whit and Naomi--I don't have a problem with them.  If they are, in fact, dating then Naomi fell up WRT Craig.  I don't have strong feelings one way or another about Whitney but I do like his mother.

Olivia--Your face is crooked.  Every time I see her, I wonder if botox on one side would somehow help or if the camera exaggerates these characteristics.  Also, was her Dad talking to her while she was in her closet? Huh.

Kathryn--Does she even need to be on this show?  I would much rather Bravo drop her and bring back Cameron and Chelsea.  Kathryn is a train wreck and not an entertaining one.  All you have to do is think about her two kids and realize mental health issues are real and serious but they have no place on a supposedly fun, frothy summer drama.  

[Married To Medicine - General Discussion]

On 8/15/2022 at 3:53 PM, Rlb8031 said:

I get the sense that Toya brings Kari along to a lot of events, especially anytime she's beefing with one or more of the ladies. Kari is there so Toya has someone to talk to who will not tell her she's wrong. 

I believe what we are shown of Kari is based on editing.  She is probably interacting just fine (or not) with the rest of the cast but her interactions aren't shown.  

They are probably pretty boring compared to Heavenly who went from 1 to mach speed and I was actually watching it.  I still had to wonder what the hell just happened!  I haven't gone back to dissect it so when Jacki said she wished for a menopause dart gun to poison Heavenly, I figured I didn't need to go back.

I generally like the cast (having had some bad feelings in the past) and I would really like to be Simone's friend IRL.  Quad has grown on me and I think Toya is okay if you let her win the "Who has the bigger closet?" contest.  

But I can't with Heavenly.  She seems to have a nice family and dental practice but I would never, ever want to spend any time with her.

[Jen: Don't call me Aggressive or I'll bash your Fkng Head In]

Okay, I have some more thoughts (and don't ask me why I care).  First, from what I gather FedPen is the place to be if you have to be incarcerated.  Still, ten years (or longer) is a very long time to be incarcerated.  Second, I think some of the preparation depends on one's level of denial.  With Jen, I don't know.

Her husband did not attend her father's funeral service.  I very highly doubt he will want to remain married to her once she is incarcerated.  He is probably sweating bullets wondering if the next shoe will drop on him.  Perhaps they have an agreement for her to plead guilty, he stays married, and they just take it from there.

I would plan on a divorce and I would rent a safe deposit box and put all of my important jewelry, etc., in it thinking the hubs will sell/take all of it while I was behind bars.  I would also give away as much as I could to family before hand knowing there won't be much remaining when I get out of prison.

I like to ride bikes so I would pedal my heart out riding my favorite routes.  I would spend as much time as I could with my mother who might be the only person to visit me/her behind bars.  I would try to spend time with my son(s) but I don't really know Jen's relationship with him/them.  In time, they may forgive her.  But they will still love her.

[S12.E14: Shameless Not Ruthless]

37 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

All spaghetti eaten here is from scratch. Started with guanciale, onions and tomatoes. Add fresh basil, fresh spices, and freshly grated cheese it can be an elevated dish. 

Yum!

[S10.E01: For the Love of Babs]

1 hour ago, Texasmom1970 said:

Tomorrow is the four year anniversary of my 12 year old sweet daughter Madison passing away.

I really am so very sorry for your loss. As a mother, I can't begin to imagine your grief.  

[S10.E01: For the Love of Babs]

2 hours ago, sara1025 said:

Also I'm not sure Babs was too happy with Whitney talking about ALL her health issues, specially the UTI. Whitney said she wanted to respect her privacy by not filming due to not being able to consent to anything, so it's weird to me that she wouldn't be more vague and private about Babs' issues.

I completely understand what you are saying but I am glad the show discussed Babs' UTI.  I'm not on many websites but a website I frequent had a discussion about six months ago regarding how several of the posters had elderly parents/relatives in the hospital on a downward spiral and they had UTIs that were diagnosed/late to be diagnosed and the UTI treatment turned them around.  I'm not a medical professional by any means so I thought the discussion on a different message board was enlightening and I think so here.

With Whit calling her dad after her visit and being very upset, here is my take after thinking a little bit more about it.  Whit, the doc, her dad and brother had a teleconference to discuss her mom's prognosis while Whit was in the hospital.  The show filmed her calling her dad after the visit while walking to her car.  Okay, poetic license or something.  Whit does not have the medical power of attorney, her dad does.  No way she is making these end of life (or not) decisions on her own. 

I also agree this shouldn't be the focus of this season.