Miss February

Seems they didn't take lightly their decision to return. And they now have producer credits.

I thought it was strange that she publicly announced her pregnancy *right* after the test was positive. No one does that. She would have had so much to process first, e.g., she's almost 50, she had just called the police on her violent boyfriend, she's already estranged from her other kids, etc. It seems impossible that her first thought upon finding out was to call People magazine. Maybe she wanted the abusive boyfriend back and used the story to try to gain the public's sympathy?

So Travis and Shanna's kids are now dealing with a mother who is pregnant (at 47) with a younger guy who verbally and physically abuses her (swings her by the hair, throws chairs at her and goes to the restroom on her) and a father and stepmother-to-be who inexplicably and continually act out sexually in public. People this dumb and offensive shouldn't be famous anymore. The public should just turn their backs on them.

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Just read on the other thread that Shanna Moakler is going to be on Celebrity Big Brother. Since she's already publicly blamed the Kardashians for breaking up her family, I'm guessing Travis and Kourtney don't like the idea of someone having a platform to possibly interfere with their carefully-crafted image of romantic bliss. Could be interesting.

What a jackass. Khloe sure knows how to pick 'em.

Kourtney dresses Frederick's-of-Hollywood style "sexy" for a family Christmas party?

It seems Shanna is using a trip to Cancun to compete with Kourtney and Travis. These people...🙄 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10333021/Shanna-Moakler-packs-PDA-boyfriend-Matthew-Rondeau-sun-soaked-vacation-Cancun.html

Or Travis.

Pretty short. I'm not judging her and who doesn't like short dresses, but this isn't very flattering.

Gold

When I said his overall immorality, I was referring to the way he was privately being unfaithful while publicly professing his faithfulness and desire to get back into the good graces of the family.

Wow. Every detail of his infidelity and overall immorality splashed across a newspaper. It will be impossible for Mom or any of the sisters to romanticize this relationship now.

🙄 Kiss-up entertainment writers sound as immature as the people they write about.

Brianna moved her kids to the Midwest to be around family. This family? Yikes.

Ten people have now died? Wow. Such a tragedy.

As if there wasn't already so much to dislike about the Kardashians/Jenners. Their boyfriends are awful people, too. Makes sense, but still.

Travis is an exhibitionist. It's hard to understand how a rock star could be starved for any more attention, but he is. (And, as shown in the video upthread, he's raising his kids to be the same way.) He may be talented, but he's immature and likely not very intelligent. Which explains why he's with a Kardashian.

Travis and Shanna seem to encourage their 15-year-old daughter to spend a lot of time making adult-ish videos on social media. Travis enters this (rather tame) one at the 2:23 minute mark. Kris must approve of this (future) son-in-law most of all...they're obviously kindred spirits in child-rearing.

And he's the son-in-law to the mother of his three children. Or, another way to describe it...Mia ended up being his mother-in-law. Yet Woody pretends his affair/marriage to Soon-Yi was a wonderful love story with no strangeness and that shouldn't have hurt anyone.

I questioned the caliber of at least one of the "experts" (Allen's therapist) after hearing she had assured Mia that even though Woody's attention to Dylan was far too intense, it was not sexual, even if it seemed sexual to Dylan and Mia. If behavior seems sexual to a 7-year-old, isn't that all that really matters? How could a therapist consider a father's (supposed) intentions to be more important than the fact that his behavior makes his child feel sexualized? I would guess the judge had to look beyond some the the expert testimony and use common sense (and common decency) to determine what was best for the kids.

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In a NYT op ed from 2014, the shared self-righteousness of Woody and Soon-Yi is evident as Woody writes about how many times they, the innocent love birds, tried to see Dylan after the molestation accusation, but that awful Mia wouldn't let them: "I never saw her [Dylan] again nor was I able to speak with her no matter how hard I tried. I still loved her deeply, and felt guilty that by falling in love with Soon-Yi I had put her in the position of being used as a pawn for revenge. Soon-Yi and I made countless attempts to see Dylan but Mia blocked them all, spitefully knowing how much we both loved her but totally indifferent to the pain and damage she was causing the little girl merely to appease her own vindictiveness." https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out.html

After watching the final episode, I realized I felt rather guilty for ever having been on the fence about this situation, hearing both sides and seeing how each person could be telling the truth. I read Mia's (very well-written) book quite a few years ago and I didn't doubt her at all. But when things came back into the news a few years ago, I watched the 60 Minutes interview with Woody from 1993 and found him credible enough that I considered the possibility that Mia reacted in rage and perhaps either wasn't entirely honest or falsely believed he was capable of something even more horrific than what he did to and with Soon-Yi. Seeing the Valentine's Day card Mia sent with the scissors in the heart of each child's picture made me wonder if she was (extremely) emotionally immature and capable of revenge. Woody claimed she said, "I have something nasty planned for you," and "You took my daughter, I'm going to take yours," and that she planned to be in his next movie, even after accusing him of child molestation. So, yeah, that's all a bit unusual. Also, I used to love Woody Allen movies and I was a bit taken in by the interview and seeing him in his New York apartment with all the books and being...Woody Allen. I think it's clear now that that was always just a character, and not at all what he is really like. I now staunchly believe Dylan and Mia. I've always liked Mia Farrow and, as stated above, it seems strange to have entertained doubt about her. Of course we don't know these people, but I have viewed Mia as a good person, and I deeply respect her for spending her life caring for those less fortunate and for truly wanting to help people. She's adopted many special-needs children, and it seems obvious she's a very loving mother. Also, she works hard to bring attention to suffering people in other parts of the world. And before my momentary lapse in judgement, I've never really gotten why people have an indifferent or even negative opinion about her. I guess I bought and possibly romanticized Woody's well-crafted persona of not caring about what anyone thought of him as an artist and that he wasn't interested in the Hollywood scene or awards, but just wanted to make films while living a writer's life of privacy. But it seems clear now that he cares very much what people think of him, and he is an extremely self-centered, entitled person who doesn't mind at all that he came into someone's life and hurt so many people, including a child, and that he continues to see himself as the victim while smearing the people he hurt. His lack of conscience is startling to behold. This has been interesting to watch and think about. Here's the 60 Minutes interview, for anyone who hasn't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPs5TAO8Hj4

If only there existed a storefront academy that tests parental competency. Then, Parker could take her parents (with the camera crew) to have them evaluated on national television regarding their abilities as parents, making sure their scores are discussed on camera while comparing them to the scores of other parents in their own families who scored much higher. Adam and Danielle would get a failing score in competency to put their child's needs before their own, and would pass with flying colors in competency to exploit their child for money and fame.